The Melting Pot

The author writes "America is a melting pot, where people are judged by their deeds and not by their ethnicity, except that people who are fortunate enough to come to this country and make it their home bring with them the prejudices of their former homeland."

Unfortunately the author does not understand either America or what prejudice is about. America is not a melting pot. America is a molding factory where everyone is molded into a particular social type where he or she will give up everything human for fakery because that is what the "market" will reward- the mold is predetermined for them they do not choose it, their elite have designed it. That mold itself though enslaving all, enslaves some more than others because...guess what... it is stratified by race, class and gender. Ethnicity is still very important in the US if you happen to have a darker skin tone, and if you happen to be black you face double jeapordy of being in a group that is deliberately and purposefully segregated on a social level from the mainstream, relegated to low paying jobs, overpopulated in the prison system and the unemployed percent even though they are a minority.

Regarding inter-ethnic marriages, have you ever tried to cross the class-line in America? There is no inter-class marriage, except as a rare exception, regarding race it is equally rigid with inter race marriage being a rare exception. Most people marry within their own class, race and religion in the US- this tells us that it is not the great "melting pot, where people are judged by their deeds". Next, the desis are much more accepting of marrying a caucasian than caucasians are of marrying desis. The reason is status in the global system where the desi wants to brush off status from a "higher status" mate while the other one will be doing a deed of charity, as they do when they hand out crumbs and then make big noise about "aid" even though they rob us blind. Now I also know through personal experience of how rigid certain U.S. parents are when their offspring dates someone of (what they consider) an "inferior" race/religion/nationality", at both extremes those living in palaces are equally bigoted as those living in trailers....So quit this happy imagery of the US when that is mere media BS that naive people have come to accept and believe....

Re: # 57
Are you wrinkilled old lonely spinstrees in Australia..atleast that some one fouched for..LOL

Re: # 57
Are you wrinkilled old lonely spinstrees in Australia..atleast that some one fouched for..LOL

You are posting unusually weird posts, even for you.

Studebaker, have you been caught out beating up women in your family? or has someone else been? For shame!

#52

In India atleast many girls marry muslim or unconditional union without dowry.
Some time with tacit consent of family too.
That does not stop the rss goons danger and risking your LIFE

Re: # 52

aslam mian,

.... but there is a difference - i have attended two hindoo weddings where the bridegroom was a non-hindoo ....... at one of these weddings there was a hindoo ceremony with a pundit, fire and all that other hindoo mumbo jumbo followed by - and get his - followed by a muslim ceremony conducted by a imam ........... needless to say, the muslim groom's parents were absent and the imam was fired from his job at the local mosque (he was already on thin ice for his 'unorthodox' views) ........

Re: # 49
To continue with discussion as you want .Conditions of Developing countries as opposed to developed industrialised Advance wht have you countries is like proverbial comparing apples and oranges.

There is special twist to laws meant to protect women in india.
Families are broken because economic condition being so it can and being used to black mail husband family and in laws


Few years back until we faced the reality with the situation of IPC498a (non-bailable, non-compoundable offence) which is worse than TADA or POTA, we never consider the effect of the misuse of the same and how this will spoil the basic foundation of institution of marriage of Indian Society. Seating on fence one will feel the same situation. With all our sincere respect to all of you, we request one of you to go the court, check with lawyer and judge. They will tell the real stats and misuse of act and abuse to age old mothers, sisters (including pregnant), father and husbands.

If you don’t believe please go though at least this three article :-
- WHO Report – Elder abuse by Daughter In LAW is the biggest problem in India .
- US Government Caution warning for marriage in India .
- ZEE TV Andha Kanoo Programe.

In Internet in Goggle Search , please search for 498 , you will find huge no of misuse story by different well known social organization and writers .

Now to kill the left out family and spoil the institution of marriage this Domestic Violence Bill Proposed by a gang of people who are secretly working .

Regarding DV Act Peco Chakravatru says: "In case of 498a, often it is possible to
prove in a black and white way that you are innocent. You can show
Cheque books, credit card bills and bank statements. But Domestic
violence is very vague to define. If you shout a bit loud, even that
can considered as DV. Now, they are saying it will be non-bailable.
The bank accounts will be frozen. The man would be thrown out of his
house and woman can stay (right to matrimonial home). Moreover, man
has to keep paying maintenance to woman by default even if she does
not apply for it."

We must understand, putting a Criminal Case against some one is not a Joke or ordering a PIZZA. If you punish a single innocent and send to jail for atleast for a day also, definitely he will come in contact to other real Criminal and after coming out from Jail what he will do???

So our sincere request to review the same immediately , as already 498a – A strong Blood Cancer already there , this DV Act will totally Kill the Institution of Marriage .
Resulting the Crime against women, illegal business, dishonest way to earn the money , blackmailing will reach in world top most level . Whole world will make us fool and will be able to weaken our basis foundation of the Indian Society. They will make fun of our Judiciary and Criminal Cases. Because in India still we fight for our Mother, sister. We can’t tolerate if any one try to abuse and send them to Jail in false case.

So if you really want to save the Institution of Marriage

 Stop abuse of elders at the name of IPC Criminal LAWS.
 Stop blind arrests innocents, without any investigation
 Stop encouraging single parenting and family breakup
 Strong Legal action against those who implicate innocents or catalyze this abuse.
 All family maters to be considered as Civil Matter case only as Criminal Case is not a Joke.

Re: # 51
Hamidm

What I gather from dost mitter’s post hindus are just as much prejudice when it comes to muslims and Africans, the question, is being selectively prejudice any better than muslims against all non-believers.

damn hypocrites

..... in the past year or so i have not been invited to two weddings that were not held because the bridegroom was an infidel .... and this despite the fact that the parents were quick to tell anyone who would listen that the guy had converted to islam ......... maybe the weddings were cancelled because the poor guy was recovering from a ritual circumcision !

........... there is something particularly abhorrent about a religion which forces parents to turn their back on their child simply because she marries outside the stinking faith !

...... and then they have the audacity to go around starving themselves for a whole month, washing their bums five times a day, and preaching love and peace on earth ....... damn hypocrites !

#48 chaltahai: of course what i write comes from my head - last i heard, that is the organ dedicated to higher level thinking (if one assumes that is what is going on on chowk). that is why i invited you to correct the figures that i recalled reading somewhere.

btw: i dont bask in reflected glory, so rest assured i am not bound to "prove" that pakistanis are better than indians or vice versa. so relax - and give me numbers if you have them from a reliable source.

Shah: I know what you mean - it is much more fun to vent disagreements on chowk than agreements. :-)

On the other hand, the discussion actually moves forward (rather then spin in a downward spiral when some Mr. Negativity joins in to switch the focus from the issue to the posters) if you agree on something to note the agreement and then add some additional insights...

Tahmed, it is only in your head..it is not true..I have heard this idiocy before and it is unfounded.

What is true is that there is a 8:1 dominance in pakis picking up sawaris at JFK tho..alhmidollahhullahgullahrasgullahallah

chaltahai: btw, taking respective indian and pakistani total populations into account, there are far more pakistani doctors than indians (i.e. while population is perhaps 8:1, doctors in the US are 2:1 as i recall reading the figures somewhere - and someone can check and conform or correct). But dont let me start an india-pakistan fight here, and stick to the subject.

It has more to do with the immigration patterns from South Asia than whitey not wanting to work at night. In the late 60's and early seventies when institutiojns like AIIMS in INdia sent truckloads of doctors was because of the shortage of trained doctors due to the draft for the military in the US. there was also a population explosion due to post war affluence.

the kids of these immigrants went into positions that their parents knew..i.e. medicine. that is why a large crop of Indian doctors are roaming the halls of medical institutions.

If you look at the kids of INdian immigrants that came in late 70's and early 80's they tend to go into a wider range of professions.

But we are not debating that are we?

We are talkign about what makes an idiot desi condemn his daughter if she marries someone other than her race and/or religion.

Re: # 43

Nor do i want to know .Non of my business .Neither do you know me