Musharraf’s New Ordinance Hoopla

hamidm2 mian: ........i think the point, under question, is that why aren't you (and urstruly) in pakistan, pushing your agenda with the same passion as you (two) regularly do on this site........

why wait for others to fix pakistan, so you can retire there.......why not fix it, yourself, so others can retire there.......

passion without conviction is hypocrisy......

bulleye #193 writes passion without conviction is hypocrisy...

Thus speaketh the sage...gibberish, but sounding profound.

An achievement one would expect from no one other than the Exalted God of Connections!!

hamidm: asma jehangir I can understand as being a true inspiration and muslim in the land of the gang rapists, tin horn generals, bearded politicians and street thugs. but what is the deal with this sheikh rashid? who the hell is he (other than being a railway minister with a big mouth) and what has he done to be mentioned in the same breath as asma jehangir?

Re: # 193

romair mian (you can't hide behind bulleya),

..... i have absolutely no desire to 'fix' pakistan because i think it is not that 'broke' anyways (not yet)........ as long as i can spend my winters playing golf at the islamabad club and the local bootlegger is still in business, i am okay ..... the reason i don't like the mullahs is because they threaten my bootlegger, otherwise i have no problem if they blow themselves up in bannu or sleep with their boys in miran shah ......

..... and why do i have to fix it when sheikh rashid is doing it for me?...... i believe in adam smith and the division of labor ..... i don't mow my yard or paint my house myself - that is why god made mexicans and romanians ....... and by that i don't mean that sheikh rashid is a mexican - he is a professional politician and a damn good one .......

.... i would also advise you to stick to your knitting instead of trying to be a fool of all trades and embarassing us in front of hindoos like arjun ......

Re: # 195

tahmed,

...... you obviously don't know sheikh rashid - if the people of rawalpindi were hindoos they would make him a god and erect a mandir to him ........ instead they have to be content with painting his potrait on rickshaws and busses ....

sheikh rashid ki jai !

Re: # 197

tahmed,

.... it is nice to see that you share my contempt for romair and masadi - the two biggest fools born on god's earth ..... i knew we had something in common !

........ by the way, what happened in the big house at the start of the season ?

hamidm #197 they also had portraits of Ayub Khan, Yahya Khan, Saddam Hussein, lions, tigers and seductive females on rickshaws and busses. So that doesnt prove anything.

hamidm #198 big house? i thought the big house was sing-sing prison.

romair is the god of Connections, masadi is the god of Knowledge. It is blasphemy to call them fools.

ok i got it. the michigan defeat at the start of the season. last time i saw a michigan game (3 decades ago) they also got beat. no big deal.

ok i got it. the michigan defeat at the start of the season. last time i saw a michigan game (3 decades ago) they also got beat. no big deal.

hamidm2 mian #: " i believe in adam smith and the division of labor ....."

.....so you passionately support the american wars, however you will never go and participate in them, yourselves....nor will you encourage your children to do so......they are ok, as long as other people's kids get killed.....

......you are passionate about change in pakistan, in the direction you want, but will never go and initiate the change in that direction yourself......

......why are you so passionate about such things, yet unwilling to participate in them, yourselves?.....why is it that in your division of labor theory, you always end up with the easy task?......

as i said, passion without conviction is hypocrisy.....much like urstruly is fighting his kashmir jihads, without ever participating in them, you are fighting your american jihads, in the same way......much like urstruly wants a religious revolution in pakistan, without willing to go to pakistan, you want an anti-religious one, without willing to go there......

......nothing wrong with not going to pakistan.....everyone has a right to migrate.......but then, why talk the talk so passionately, when you are unwilling to even begin walking the walk.......

if, however, you do believe in the adam smith theory, then do you think urstruly can also use that argument......

Hamidm without getting into the rightness or wrongness of what the Jihadis are doing (and I think in Kashmir they are justified), i think it is not always appropriate to cheer on morons like arjun chutiya, how do you know Urstruly doesnt send 5 dollars to jihadis for every 1 dollar he pays the US govt (of which prob 90cents goes to basic services), where as in Pakistan he wouldnt be able to give even 1.

Have you heard of comparitive advantage?

Borivilli mian,

So the jihadis are justified in Kashmir but not in Waziristan or in Lal Masjid.

Regards

I dont know wether waziristan is justified or not, but Kashmir is because the Indian govt and public denies the aspirations for fredom of the people there

Kashmiris dont even have the level of sovereignty that waziristanis enjoy.

and dont tell me that Kashmir is the same as tribal ara or baluchistan because Indians have 700,000 troops in Kashmir, where as the entire Pak Army is 550,000

Borivilli mian

(Kashmir is the same as tribal ara or baluchistan because Indians have 700,000 troops in Kashmir, where as the entire Pak Army is 550,000)

Pak Army has 90,000 troops in W'stan and as we all know 1 momin = 10 kafiir. So in equivalent terms Pak has 900,000 soldiers in W'stan and W'stan population (less than 1 mn) is much lower than J&K (close to 10 mn). And Injun Army's opposition is supported by a hostile neighbour (Pakistan) while Pak Army has the support of the worlds greatest coalition- US/UK/Afghanistan et al.

(Kashmiris dont even have the level of sovereignty that waziristanis enjoy.)

Kashmiri people have the right to elect their own govt, MLAs/MPs (like all other Indian states) but have no right to secede (again no other state enjoys that right either). Do Pakistanis (Waziristanis or otherwise) have the right to elect their own govt.

Regards