Can Religious Leaders Redeem the Future of the World?

tahmed writes "Only a total duffer like you would think that I have a problem with the color of my skin."

Only a total duffer like you would conclude after reading my post that it was about YOU caring about the color of your skin. The white man considers people of color inferior, regardless of trying to get a tan, and by the way, even with the darkest tan he will still consider himself/herself whiter than you

then he writes "And your trademark personal insults cannot hide the weakness of your argument."

There were no personal insults except the obvious statement of you being a peon of the West- a badge you wear with honor defacto- but now hide behind the "insult" excuse because you cannot answer the argument; regarding my argument, it is anything but weak, this ghetto we call Pakistan as well as the Harlem ghetto is maintained by the policies of the elite in the West, our country is sovereign in name only- that is the fact and it is no weak argument, the other fact is that those elite consider the entire world their playing field and is the case within their country they have relegated people of color to ghettos- in fact Pakistan is even more subservient to the US elite than many of the internal states of the US, defacto when you live in Pakistan you are actually living in a US dominated banana republic, in other words defacto part of the US both politically and economically... and life (even though that was not my argument and only total duffers and deceivers like you can conclude thus) in the US viz-a-viz Pakistan is quite similar depending on the socioeconomic class of the person, for the deprived, most of which happen to be people of color in the US, it is equally miserable...

hamid writes "....what the heck, we will even throw in masadi .... it will be a net gain for pakistan "

Uncle, what do you think I am, one of those crisp Rs 5000 bills you hand out on Eid but somehow managed to bypass me?

#114 Posted by masadi,

"Uncle,...."

Do you mind if I borrow this term?

In addition to #113, by the way, immigration policies in the US have always been anti people of color, and the vast majority of the white folk are anti-immigrant and the picture that comes to their minds when you talk of immigrant is of a person of color not the white Europeans. These are from well documented studies on immigration not only to the US but from data from European countries as well, the behavior of the immigrant who has "made it" to those lands has nothing to do with the difficulty of obtaining a visa, this was just a misplaced excuse by tahmed to hide the racist policies of the Western elite...

GT writes "Do you mind if I borrow this term? "

Be my guest...

masadi: The white man considers people of color inferior

...and only dud like you concerns himself with what he thinks other people think of the color of his skin...

Re: # 115

GT,

.... as long as you show the proper respect which this title deserves - otherwise no eidee for you either ...

#116 Posted by masadi on October 17, 2007 8:19:35 am

funny how pakis, who can never shut up about how their perceived fairness makes them superior, whine about being discriminated against.

mr masadi,
in the 26 yrs of living in the us, i have never personally experienced discrimination here. My 22 yr old daughter has never experiened discrimination throughout her life (& she was the only brown kid in a 98% white school.

I would argue I have experienced much more discrimination in India.

Prejudice is a human vice, not confined to the US. I will argue there is more virulent prejudice among Asians in Asia.

So,once in a while when you fart, try blaming someone other than the US for giving you gas.

tahmed writes "...and only dud like you concerns himself with what he thinks other people think of the color of his skin..."

When those "other people" are determining life and death matters over the vast majority of humanity and defining global worth based upon which life chances are handed out you bet your hairy behind, I'll concern myself with it...

Shankar writes "in the 26 yrs of living in the us, i have never personally experienced discrimination here.."

Of course you don't because even if the white man kills your nation or sh*** on you, you'll bless him and think its rose perfume, that's the nature of an enslaved mind. All social aggregate indicators suggest a US rife with institutional racism as a result of which all surveys that measure personal racism show a high degree of it as well.., the white man's prejudice messed up the world the petty jealousies of Asian on Asian, even though deplorable have had no similar global consequence.

Arjun #120 shut up with your nonsense generalizations, my post has nothing to do with myself being discriminated against it is about all people of color and how the white man treats them as fact even though the diplomacy and fakery surrounding that treatment is all fun fun and joy joy...

#122 Posted by masadi on October 17, 2007 11:09:30 am


Arjun #120 shut up with your nonsense generalizations


You generalize all white people as racist and you're saying I'm bad for generalizing?

Now - turks are mobilizing to attack the kurds... aren't they all muslims?... what the eff*** is wrong with these people?... it's driving oil prices crazy...

You know - the only solution I think will work is to sedate these people en-masse. May be we can build a bunch of MOABs and daisy-cutters filled with valium and blast them all over bedouin lands every 3 months... that should cool down these freaks and oil prices... :)

masadi: listen to shankar. he is a psychiatrist. and his prescription for you is: So,once in a while when you fart, try blaming someone other than the US for giving you gas. (Do this three times a day, once after each meal).

Re: # 118

Massaddi Mian:

"masadi: The white man considers people of color inferior..."

Just as you make such racist comments out of your ignorance, many people of other races have prejudices - including racism - based on their ignorance.

You show your extreme intolerance to others view points. Such intolerance leads even more complex personality, which rarely can succeed.

I am afraid masadi might have a point if one of the great scientist thinks thinks blacks are inferior, it begs the question what about ordinary whites.

One of the world’s most respected scientists is embroiled in an extraordinary row after claiming that black people are less intelligent than white people.
James Watson, a Nobel Prize winner for his part in discovering the structure of DNA, has provoked outrage with his comments, made ahead of his arrival in Britain today.
More fierce criticism of the eminent scientist is expected as he embarks on a number of engagements to promote a new book ‘Avoid Boring People: Lessons from a Life in Science’. Among his first commitments is a speech to a London audience at the Science Museum on Friday. The event is sold out.
Dr Watson, who runs one of America’s leading scientific research institutions, made the controversial remarks in an interview in The Sunday Times.
The 79-year-old geneticist said he was “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really.". He said he hoped that everyone was equal, but countered that “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”.
He says that you should not discriminate on the basis of colour, because “there are many people of colour who are very talented, but don’t promote them when they haven’t succeeded at the lower level”. He writes that “there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so”.
He claimed genes responsible for creating differences in human intelligence could be found within a decade.
The newly formed Equality and Human Rights Commission is studying Dr Watson’s remarks “in full”.
Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, said today: “It is sad to see a scientist of such achievement making such baseless, unscientific and extremely offensive comments.
“I am sure the scientific community will roundly reject what appear to be Dr Watson’s personal prejudices. These comments serve as a reminder of the attitudes which can still exist at the highest professional levels.”
Dr Watson was hailed as achieving one of the greatest single scientific breakthroughs of the 20th century when he worked at the University of Cambridge in the 1950s and 1960s, forming part of the team which discovered the structure of DNA.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2677098.ece?token=null&off set=0
He shared the 1962 Nobel Prize for medicine with his British colleague Francis Crick and New Zealand-born Maurice Wilkins.

When it comes to racism Asians (from middle east to Japan) are no less racist than the White/European Americans. We all know how the people from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Philippines are treated in middle east. Most Desi's address African Americans as Kallus and in other derogatory terms. Chinese and Japanese are also no less when it comes to their treatment of people of other colors and nationalities.

Most Desi's have different standards for racism, and expect better behavior from the white folks than from themselves.