Mohammad Gill October 12, 2007
#225 Posted by zeemax on October 20, 2007 12:40:27 am
#202 Urstruly,
It is anybody's guess that Bezamir has brought with her truck loads of dollars to establish PPP militias, which will be obviously trained by NaPak fouj. The civil war is written on the wall and so is the kidnappings, torture, and abu-ghraibs.
Right on the mark. That's what the newly recruited 20,000 strong "Janisaar-e-Benazir" are obviously for. Add the MQM armed wing to it and you have a perfect Iraq/Nicaragua mix Negreponte style.
It is anybody's guess that Bezamir has brought with her truck loads of dollars to establish PPP militias, which will be obviously trained by NaPak fouj. The civil war is written on the wall and so is the kidnappings, torture, and abu-ghraibs.
Right on the mark. That's what the newly recruited 20,000 strong "Janisaar-e-Benazir" are obviously for. Add the MQM armed wing to it and you have a perfect Iraq/Nicaragua mix Negreponte style.
#226 Posted by masadi on October 20, 2007 1:07:24 am
tahmed writes to dm "Accusations and misrepresentation of views without burdening oneself with substantiating them is your privilege. Not wasting my time with them is mine.
Have a nice day"
Please note this oft repeated "strategy" of this moron. Whenever stumped by an argument he claims responding to it is a "waste of his time", when his dimwitted arguments (always in support of the official US position- submitting to them completely), and not only ill thought out they are mere cheerleading and fake emotionalism. Ignore this sos (where the latter s stands for swine), only keep exposing him and his pro-West BS.
Have a nice day"
Please note this oft repeated "strategy" of this moron. Whenever stumped by an argument he claims responding to it is a "waste of his time", when his dimwitted arguments (always in support of the official US position- submitting to them completely), and not only ill thought out they are mere cheerleading and fake emotionalism. Ignore this sos (where the latter s stands for swine), only keep exposing him and his pro-West BS.
#227 Posted by dost_mittar on October 20, 2007 6:01:34 am
hamidm#220:
I am not saying that big is necessarily better but can you honestly say that the Iraqis are now safer, better fed, clothed or even less under the Mullah yoke than they were under Saddam? In case you missed, your friends have turned perhaps the least sexist and most secular Arab country into a sharia-based one. Great going!
Also, you underestimate the Intelligence strength of the neocons' middle eastern friends. They knew better than anyone else the shia-sunni schism in Iraq.
I am not saying that big is necessarily better but can you honestly say that the Iraqis are now safer, better fed, clothed or even less under the Mullah yoke than they were under Saddam? In case you missed, your friends have turned perhaps the least sexist and most secular Arab country into a sharia-based one. Great going!
Also, you underestimate the Intelligence strength of the neocons' middle eastern friends. They knew better than anyone else the shia-sunni schism in Iraq.
#228 Posted by dost_mittar on October 20, 2007 6:02:36 am
tahmed#221:
Okay, you win. You are not an admirer of the West. I have to go to Montreal now. Have a nice weekend.
Okay, you win. You are not an admirer of the West. I have to go to Montreal now. Have a nice weekend.
#229 Posted by hamidm2 on October 20, 2007 6:36:51 am
Re: # 227
dost,
.. no the are not better off now, but they will be if the country is trifurcated ..
dost,
.. no the are not better off now, but they will be if the country is trifurcated ..
#230 Posted by masadi on October 20, 2007 9:49:24 am
hamid writes "i seriously doubt the neocons had any idea that there was so much animosity and hatred between the various groups in iraq ..... , a trifurcation might be the best solution for the people ....... "
Quit playing the MAJ (MFJ) role of dividing up a country based on the nonsense that they cannot get along- the US invasion is the cause of all the animosity and hatred that exists, the US has played one group against the other and might even be involved in particular instances- those people have had a long history of living together in peace and harmony and the only grievance the shias had were not against their sunni neighbours but against a regime. The sectarianism was inflamed by the US when it rushed to Saddar city at the fall of baghdad in order to use those thugs and punish the sunnis under the guise of "debathification"...
Quit playing the MAJ (MFJ) role of dividing up a country based on the nonsense that they cannot get along- the US invasion is the cause of all the animosity and hatred that exists, the US has played one group against the other and might even be involved in particular instances- those people have had a long history of living together in peace and harmony and the only grievance the shias had were not against their sunni neighbours but against a regime. The sectarianism was inflamed by the US when it rushed to Saddar city at the fall of baghdad in order to use those thugs and punish the sunnis under the guise of "debathification"...
#231 Posted by zensufi on October 20, 2007 10:13:11 am
Why limit the interaction to Muslims and Christians only? Let's join forces with all religious/non-religious belief systems. Afterall, this planet is but ONE, yet we are as people MANY.
#232 Posted by teshah on October 20, 2007 6:07:55 pm
Re: # 71
freethinker
"But what perhaps impedes understanding of the situation more than anything else is that the term "mankind" feels vague and abstract."
But what about the term 'religion'? It is more vague than the term 'mankind'. It includes anti-human cults like those of 'Kaali Devi' and 'IslamoFascists' to the great humanistic 'Buddhism'. We see 'pure' spiritualistic religion like 'Makki' Islam turning into an over-politicised 'Madni' Islam, leading ultimately to the carnage of the very family of the Prophet.
freethinker
"But what perhaps impedes understanding of the situation more than anything else is that the term "mankind" feels vague and abstract."
But what about the term 'religion'? It is more vague than the term 'mankind'. It includes anti-human cults like those of 'Kaali Devi' and 'IslamoFascists' to the great humanistic 'Buddhism'. We see 'pure' spiritualistic religion like 'Makki' Islam turning into an over-politicised 'Madni' Islam, leading ultimately to the carnage of the very family of the Prophet.
#234 Posted by dost_mittar on October 21, 2007 6:20:11 am
ahmedmadani#233:
Yes, for now, but not sure for how long? The Kurds love for Kurds rebellion in Turkey might be their undoing. They have the same fatal attraction for an independent Kurdistan that Pakistanis have for Kashmir.
Yes, for now, but not sure for how long? The Kurds love for Kurds rebellion in Turkey might be their undoing. They have the same fatal attraction for an independent Kurdistan that Pakistanis have for Kashmir.
#235 Posted by tahmed32 on October 21, 2007 7:14:23 am
dm #228 good cop out, dm sahib. just do me the favor of not mis)representing my views in future. it will save your precious time, and my useless time doesnt matter of course.
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