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vrv #50 please dont keep answering my simple question with some other question. but it is obvious that you find it hard to say a simple yes or no, and that is your choice. bye.

TA,

That's a well craftd defence.

Defending the consistency of Urstruly makes me anti-Pakistani?

vrv: you ignored the point i made about consistency between words and actions. you also refused to answer a simple question by giving an irrelevant analogy of "since when u stopped beating ur wife". If you had asked me the same question on India, I would have given you an answer.
contrary to what you say, hamidm is also quite consistent in what he says - he appreciates the country he has chosen to live in (i.e. the US), is for the market system, he does not think highly of either islam or hinduism, is cynical of both Pakistanis and Indians. I dont agree with some of what he says, but he is as consistent in his views as anyone. which, like i said, is more than can be said for those who claim to have all sorts of grievances with the west and yet have chosen to raise their families in the west rather than in taliban afghanistan (which provided the "islamic society" they claim to stand for).

Dont worry about mollifying me, since questioning what I consider to be an incorrect assertion does not mean that I am being merely upset. So instead of mollifying me, you should consider what I am saying and address that rather than merely ignore the points I made.

than mollify u i/o than mollify

Ahmed,

It's like somebody asking 'since when u stopped beating ur wife'. That way I consider u/hamid as Indian-hater and Pakistani-hater & Islam-hater (depending on the situation).

Btw, I better be a Pakistan-hater in ur eyes than mollify.

Though I dont agree with most the views of Urstruly and his fratenrity I can agree that they speak in one voice. They never waver abt their views whereas uou/Hamid change views depending on the situation or interactor.

#45 vrv: i think hamidm is just as consistent in his views as urstruly. what is more, hamidm's views are consistent with his actions (i.e. he appreciates the US way of life, and has moved here) which cannot be said for urstruly.

So what you say is not the truth. And you have ignored my question - am i wrong in saying you are a pakistan-hater.

TAhmed,

Why am I a Pak-hating Indian? coz I tell the truth abt Urstruly being consistent in his views and Hamid's not?

If that's the case, I already said thanks.

#43 vrv: am i wrong?

TAhmed,

Thanks for the title 'Pakistan-hating Indian'.

vrv: you are not the first pakistan-hating indian to applaud urstruly. i wonder why. :-)

Hamid,

Urstruly is consistent in his views and ppl wud be sure of his views on any given issue whereas u jump in and out of issues depending how ur mood swings.

The only issue is that these ppl wud not match u post2post and make fool of themselves.

Thanks that u indirectly condemned these bombings.

Re: # 39

urstruly,

.... i guess you and others of your ilk - zeemax, abu sufwan, echo and masadi - are happy that the soldiers of al-lah tried to strike a blow for your cause ..... i hope you are watching the carnage on geo to satisfy your lust for the blood of those who do not share your twisted world view ...... i am sure you have a good erection

Re: # 38

I think our misery will eventually force us to either change or become dinosaurs and perish.

Urstruly,

Ur points are good but who bells the cat?

Ras,

The links are informative but I cant get over the image of Surrey Palace she bought (& sold later) and the number of antiques smuggled outta Pakistan.

Lets wait and see how u guys overcome the blues.

Re: # 36

GT, like I said, I quoted only one verse. There are many snd according to Asool (method of interpretation) the verses cannot be contradictory.

Please check out the website I posted to understand the concept of State in Islam, if you are interested.

#33 Posted by Urstruly:

OK the other reference makes more sense. The following is closer to waht you say.

(7:3) "(O Jamaa'atul Mu'mineen) Follow only that which has been revealed to you by your Rabb and do not follow any friends and protectors other than Him. (The subservience to Divine Laws and not of any human being is the real freedom), but very few keep this reality in mind."