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Curse of Arranged or Forced Marriages

Moiz Ansari October 14, 2007

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#41 Posted by Dash_Dot on October 31, 2007 10:46:35 am
Tahmed32 each class has a set of values, in fact values often tend to define the class.

Alright, i might have been generalising but it is not over generalisation.

Class is a chaging concept only in the eyes of the politicians who have to sell this idea. BUt reality is that class has remained fixed for many many generations.

The first WWar wiped out the landed gentry and middle class of the Kipling kind. SInce then they have been making a slow recovery - by taking in new blood.

This notion of class is something which you cannot avoid it has been there ever since man started civilising himself. Even the Soviet Union (a socialist country), and China (a communist country) have retained essentials of the class culture from before their revolutions. 70 odd years of Marx didnot eliminate it.
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#40 Posted by tahmed32 on October 31, 2007 10:41:25 am
DashDot: You are generalizing way too much. WASPS are people, not wasps whose brains are basically programmed and therefore one can generalize.

"Class" is also a changing concept that is not strictly related to economic situation - if you want to generalize, try "values".
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#39 Posted by Dash_Dot on October 31, 2007 10:34:04 am
Re: # 35 Jang dude, you seem to be a disciple of George Michael, and his "fast Love"
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#38 Posted by Dash_Dot on October 31, 2007 10:32:50 am
Re: # 34 That would not be a bad idea.....but I would leave myself out of it.....
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#37 Posted by tahmed32 on October 31, 2007 10:32:32 am
jang #35 I am getting concerned about you. I hope you restrain yourself from sniffing people in shopping malls and other public areas at least.
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#36 Posted by Dash_Dot on October 31, 2007 10:31:47 am
Re: # 31 You got me wrong Tahmed32...its a follow to Aslam644 (#22).

Its a class issue...this is fact you cannot argue against. I have seen it happen for the last 30 odd years all over the place and have first hand knowledge of my friend in the USA. Till the parents of the girl (fairly upper professionals - were unhappy at their daughter marrying a desi, but when they found out that this guy had a background which was no less than theirs they seemed happy. In fact when I went to meet them, I was given the third degree...if you are used to the desi questioning you can handle this with ease).

Its the compatibility of class....race don't matter after a certain point. The WASPs are very much bothered about it, but they do not voice it out like we do, but expect their kids to do the right thing - play the field with lesser mortals but settle down with a nice partner. This is the biggest difference between the two sets - one voice it out loud and donot trust their kids, the other do not voice it in much the same way. BUt the sentiments are identical.
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#35 Posted by jang on October 31, 2007 10:27:28 am
#30 tahmed as ghalib would say "yaran tune to soonghi hi nahin".
sniffing instincts are a mysterious stuff..honed over millions of years of evolution..dont fight it.
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#34 Posted by tahmed32 on October 31, 2007 10:26:38 am
jang #29 Are you advocating Free Love and Hippieism on chowk?
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#33 Posted by tahmed32 on October 31, 2007 10:24:39 am
Tolkinin: Should I file your conclusion that "As an Adult Paki male Marriage was forced on you." under "Chowk Sociology Theories" as well?

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#32 Posted by tahmed32 on October 31, 2007 10:24:39 am
Tolkinin: Should I file your conclusion that "As an Adult Paki male Marriage was forced on you." under "Chowk Sociology Theories" as well?

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#31 Posted by tahmed32 on October 31, 2007 10:22:01 am
Dash-dot: How do you reach this conclusion that whites stick to their own kind? Should I file this under "Chowk Sociology Theories"??
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#30 Posted by tahmed32 on October 31, 2007 10:19:27 am
jang: How does sniffing ensure the survival of the species?
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#29 Posted by jang on October 31, 2007 10:16:58 am
#21 yar tahmed, come to UP, and we can discuss the matter of if i was 6 year old or 16 there, why spoil this board with such moot matters?

hindus in particular should strongly oppose arranges marriage based on their mysthological scriptures. look at all the arranges marriages which Bhishma performed and bad genes which were propagated (story of amba-ambalika etc and gandhari).
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#28 Posted by jang on October 31, 2007 10:16:53 am
#21 yar tahmed, come to UP, and we can discuss the matter of if i was 6 year old or 16 there, why spoil this board with such moot matters?

hindus in particular should strongly oppose arranges marriage based on their mysthological scriptures. look at all the arranges marriages which Bhishma performed and bad genes which were propagated (story of amba-ambalika etc and gandhari).
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#27 Posted by Dash_Dot on October 31, 2007 10:15:03 am
Re: # 22 this is the case with most whites (european, american or otherwise). They stick to their own kind. It keeps it all within their system
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#26 Posted by mohar11 on October 31, 2007 9:46:19 am
Ranjit

You have a point but Jang is right - it should be left to actual parties to marry with some fedbacks from parents... But the problem in socities like India is that there is hardly any opportunities for both sexes to meet and mingle safely and cordially and figure it out... college does provide a venue but it's still very limited...
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