Of Carnage and Triumph

Never thought that I would be writing this but

I want to extend my appreciation to tahmed32 Sahib.

Not only is he right in my opinion but he has a much

better understanding of the current situation than bull eya

ahmed mad ani and especially Lad du.

Ras

romair,

... you fool! ....... let me tell you who the real 'feudals' are in pakistan ...... maybe i will just give you a simple example that even your airman's brain can understand:

.... on the way from pindi to murree there is a toll gate at satran meel (seventeen mile) ..... as long as i can remember, whenever we went up with friends who were junior officers in the air force or army, we never paid the toll - the flying officer would simply show his id card and be waved through with a salute by a poor civilian in tattered shalwar kameez and chappals ...... even the legharis and mazaris pay up ....

Naqsh

Slap and Run - that's your plan?... Are you running out of suicide belts?...

BTW - I saw a photo of Salman Khan praying to Pagan Goddess Durga... he did again dude... aren't you supposed to kill him or something?...

correcton to #126 that should be "stray, three-legged dog". mea culpa!!

#125 Great response, General Romair sir, if I may say so. And nothing less is expected from you. Now could you teach this miserable Son Masadi to make such clever comebacks too, rather than merely cursing and abusing and whining like a stray one-legged dog?

tahmad #118: "you are too modest!! with your expert analysis of the situation, everything becomes crystal clear even to dumbbells like me. your 20/20 foresight allows your fans to remain ahead of the curve!!!"

as i said, don't hate me because i am beautiful.......

i have never claimed to have 20/20 foresight.....nor have i ever considered you a dumbbell...however, as i stated earlier, if you say so, i will accept both your evaluations - the one about me and the one about you.......

#121 tahmed writes "hamidm: heed romair's observation..."

You need to do something better with your retirement than BS-ing here all day long. Have some dignity you peon of the West. Your posts remind me of the retired donkey let loose by its owner, in your case the US elite, after use and abuse, and not realizing that he is free he keeps singing the same tune as he stumbles from neighbourhood to neighbourhood and road to road. I pity you fool, have some self respect....

masadi, naqshbandi: what an auspicious timing. Just as I was talking about our other distinguished, all-knowing Pakistani on chowk, Romair!! You gentleman form the Holy Trinity, namely the Father Romair, the Son Masadi, and the Holy Ghost Naqshbandi!!

Together you spread grace around the world and protect it from that Great Satan Hamidm!!

hamidm mian# "..i have accepted nothing! ... you said that nawaz sharif was the son of a poor brick-kiln worker implying that he was a self-made man ......."

i have accepted nothing, because there is nothing to accept.....you are fabricating information and trying to pass it on to me.....

do highlight where i said that nawaz sharif is a self-made man.......kindly do this after you highlight where i said he is a hero.......

i stated the following:

1. i said nawaz sharif's father is rags to riches story, which he is......i stand by this, and will continue to do so, until someone provides facts that prove otherwise.....

2. i said that other than benazir, the major power players in pakistan that i listed, come from non-power player middle class to pooor families.....and i stand by that......infact i provided a description of the original profession of their fathers.......none of which you have countered......

you have, for some strange reason attributed to me the following:

1. implying that he was a self-made man .......
2. does not make you a hero .......

i never said any of them are heroes, nor do i think nawaz sharif is a self-made man......

hamidm: heed romair's observation in #116 that lower classes like you have taken over the running of Pakistan from romair raja's noble ancestors!! you upset the natural order of things, and of course you are going to have problems. now get back to your mud-hut where you belong, and dont talk back to your betters, like Raja T-Shirt Romair!!

hamid to bulleya "....... you are disgraceful ! "

And what are you, full of grace? Have you ever bothered reading your own posts....moron

Re: # 114

no. i 'd just slap him and walk on...

romair: you are too modest!! with your expert analysis of the situation, everything becomes crystal clear even to dumbbells like me. your 20/20 foresight allows your fans to remain ahead of the curve!!!

Re: # 116

romair,

.... you idiot! ... i have accepted nothing! ... you said that nawaz sharif was the son of a poor brick-kiln worker implying that he was a self-made man ....... i showed you that he was not .... so stop trying to wriggle out of yet another t-shirt situation ...... and i didn't challenge you on musharraf - he too belongs to the 'elite' class (as classes are defined in pakistan) ......

....... you are disgraceful !

hamidm mian#: "just because your father or grandfather had a tough life does not make you a hero ......"

.....all i stated in my reply was that, contrary to popular belief, many of pakistan's current leaders have come from humble families......."other than bhutto family,....in pakistan are from middle to poor families"....

i have provided the background of these families, which you initially challenged, and now seem to have accepted.......

....where exactly did i say they were heroes?.......kindly highlight.......

p.s. in pakistan, politics works on the basis of families and family backgrounds......benazir would be a nobody had her last name not been bhutto.....infact, neither would her father.......however, punjab has, generally, had a change in hierarchy, as far as families go......there use to be a time when rajas etc. dominated the province......now, barring southern punjab, the leadership has moved into the hands of traditionally poorer groups.......which is what i was trying to highlight......

Re: # 109

romair,

.... you idiot! .... bill ford's grandfather was born in a modest farmhouse in michigan and john rockefeller's father was a travelling salesman who sold magical cures .....

........ just because your father or grandfather had a tough life does not make you a hero ....... heck, my father was running around barefooted till he was five and was squatting in the fields like an ordinary hindoo until he was fifteen ... he lived in a mud house that his mother plastered every year and sat under a kiker tree minding the family buffalo while he studied ..... good for him! ..... but when i was growing up, we always had an indoor toilet and before the flush system came along we always had a christian who would empty out our commodes (as you know muslims don't do menial tasks we couldn't find any hindoos, because they had all left!) ...... so does that mean that i am some kind of a genius ?!

........ you are a fool and an embarassment for all pakistanis ..... if it weren't for you we wouldn't have to suffer at the hands of people like arjun ....