Of Carnage and Triumph

this class 1 chutya bush, and his company of idiots, rumsfield, cheney and the assorted conservative jokers have made a complete mess of afghanistan and iraq

how stupid the american people are can be estimated from their relection of such incompetent nincompoops

the soney pe suhaga would be relection of a conservative admin next year.

Re: # 9

borvili,

.... as the wise dr shankar said: next time you have gas, blame someone other than america and bush for your flatulence ......

bhaand u are the biggest moron of all to continue supporting the conservatives after they proved oevr the last 7 years that they are the undisputed kings of chutyap

teray bhejey mey kya gobar bhara hai?

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Re: # 4 Romair.... You have thoughtful comment.
I second you over long term religious parties will get benefit as people are not swayed and fooled as deal is transperant between military ruler and Mrs. Bhutto you scratch my back and will return favors. On human level most depressed will PPP ground workers , they went and kept all faith and what they got. BB leadership will loose lustre fast as people do not like people leading them of so low character to just get personal benefits and throw down followers to gutter. It saddens people like me as all this Tamasha and farce. General went "april fool election" as a short cut and it proved strategic blunder, mistakes can be be corrected not strategic blunders. He proved talkative and fast but not intelligent and subtle. I hope you are wrong and general and BB work for betterment. May be people who distributed sweets after coup or hundreds of thousand welcoming BB ( total corroupt person), NRO etc deserve what they are going to get. One can not blame general or BB as may be they understand moral fiber and caliber of people who act as children. I think corrouption will kill pakistan internally as cancer has now reached at head at top and people are happy for that. It is hard think how things can better when only common denominator is moral corrouption amoung leading people of nation.I remember a german saying " If money is lost nothing is lost, if health is lost something is lost and if moral Character is lost then everything is lost".
Last hope is general is disqualified that will be best. Even if general declares marshall law still better than corroupt compromising democracy. Hardship of marshall law over long term will throw up better moral leadership, this corroupt democracy will throw up pigs. Some times one wonders all this 60 years of journey is from something to nothing. I honestly feel BB and general not much better than dakoos and terrorists in Karachi who loot and rob people by holding TT pistols to their heads.Things are fine means they are not fine.
Let us hope technical disqualifications of general stops his low moral games.
Some how I feel things will go against people of pakistan, general will be okeyed as pakistan never gets breaks only shafts.

#1 Posted by neembu on October 19, 2007 1:25:51 pm


the bombings do not bode well.


really? bombings don't bode well?

profound..

Re: # 13

ahmedmadani sahib,

.... i hear you, but you have to play with the hand you are dealt ..... so far the only queens and kings we have in this lousy hand are bb and the general .... other than that you have jokers and knaves like imran khan and the qazi ...... unless, of course, you have an ace up your sleeve .......

Re: # 12

arjun,

.. please do me a favor and pull out romair's old t-shirt post ... that might shut him up for a while ......

thank you and best regards

So between BB and the general, will the elections (if and when they are held) produce another leader by default who is the best of the worst and not really good enough? If so,that is a pity,because the people of Pakistan and any other country for that matter, deserves better.

The “profound” wisdom of chowk Pakistanis can leave one wordless!

The facts of the matter are rather simple.

(1) BB’s past is not an issue here. Like the Laloo (a figure more popular in Pakistan than his native Bihar), there are charges of corruption against her. Well, you supposedly have an “independent” judiciary – use the judiciary to deal with the allegations. If your system does not work – fix the system, do not try to “do the job yourself” – then your approach is no different from a jihadi!

(2) One must wonder why so many chowkwalis are so viciously attacking the BB – especially since the BB is the only person (out of the current lot) who even seems to have at least shades of democratic thoughts about her – and these ladies have nobody better to suggest in her place.

(3) The people who attacked the procession are the real culprits. If the khakis were complicit, then they are equally to blame. Blaming BB is totally dishonest – and no different from blaming a rape victim for being there - “Usne itna bhaDakdar kapDa kyun pehna?!”

(4) From the Bumbaiwali to the Scout, the Neembu, the Bridge, the Sobia, and the Zeena are all busy playing Monday morning quarterbacking – “why did she have the juloos?” This is one of the most asinine statements I have ever heard. Why not answer honestly the very simple question – why did 1.5 million people line up that route? The answer is simple – BB wanted to exercise her freedom – and those people wished to do the same – in a democracy, one has the right to assemble. If you do not do so because of coercion, you do not have that freedom – “true” democracy or otherwise, and then you have allowed the bad guys to win!

I sometimes think that Pakistan is backward because many of its women are primitive in mindset – especially those who consider themselves “educated” but are more retrogressive than the least literate of village ladies! Unfortunately, most of them have decided to permanently park themselves in the chowk corridors!

#18 bjkumar: I was never a fan of BB - until today!! She has put her neck on the line for the cause of democracy, as yesterday's terrible events showed. She truly shone today, as she made a passionate speech calling for giving power back to its rightful owners, namely the people of Pakistan. May God protect her, and may she indeed prove to have turned into a new leaf and help restore democracy in Pakistan.

#19 Tahmed32

I agree. The BeeB is a more mature politician now. One hopes that she will no more play a kathputli role in the hands of the khakis.

#20 bjkumar: Too early to tell, but signs are hopeful. Musharraf knows that he needs to broaden his political base if he is to have any chance of survival. BB made a great speech today, reminded me of her father's finest hour (after the fall of dhaka, when he did a great job of lifting the spirits of a beaten nation).

I never thought that I'd see the day BUT:

tahmed32 #19 # 21 AMEEN !!!!


RE: bjkumar Bhayya #18

I could not have said it better...

Ras

Ras

RE: #8 hamidm2

I cannot afford the Blue but some fine California Merlot

the next time you are in California...

Re: # 13 Romair has correctly stated we are getting some money from American elites but money is not free as country is burning at both ends slowly. But we are not helpless victim in crime. We are paid in foreign currency and armt. No body give F-16 just for getting money. Money is chain used by western elites to rope country and line as junior partner and lauching pad for west elites war on terror which is war on Muslims in reality. As all people know we are being paid money to shed muslim blood and paid in blood money. This is tainted money. Its like cat he sees butter but not trap. Once you take bribe to shed innocent muslim blood you are trapped by elites and there is no escape. So no democracy. We will not get peace till war on terror stops. I ahve agreed with analysis by Masadi and Romair. I like their straight forward think, there is no intelluctual paralysis by too much analysis. Some people analyse too much and miss points. Good day bye