Ayesha Umar October 20, 2007
#385 Posted by masadi on October 26, 2007 11:57:51 am
As usual tahmed has not been able to respond to a single point and come up with the baseless nonsense of "copy paste my stuff", which I have copy pasted including the link to his entire article in which he was cheerleading for the Iraq war that has killed more than hundreds of thousands, in fact more than a million, and his nonsense support of US interference in Pakistan's politics which results in our people remaining at below subsistence poverty level which kills more than hundredes of thousands every single year, just look at the Infant mortality figures, not to mention the older people who die of preventible causes 20% of the rest.....May Allah curse this sos and may he suffer all kinds of loss after loss for immorally stabbing our people in the back.
#384 Posted by tahmed32 on October 25, 2007 2:24:35 pm
masadi #382 first, you write, "tahmed writes" , "then he writes" - who do you think you are whining to, you nitwit??
You have been lying about everything I write - and when I decide to spend some time taking you up, you run start lying some more.
Now you write The hypocrisy of this person knows no bounds he says he abuse is unprovoked yet he writes posts that legitimize the killing of hundreds of thousand,
It is you who is the hypocrite. I dont apply this word to anyone as easily as you do, but the above is proof that you are a shameless liar who keeps repeating his lies about my posts legitimizing the killing of hundreds of thousands. I challenged you before to cut and paste where I am doing this, and you failed to produce that, so you lied some more. You can keep lying till you are blue in the face - that only makes you a bigger hypocrite.
You have been lying about everything I write - and when I decide to spend some time taking you up, you run start lying some more.
Now you write The hypocrisy of this person knows no bounds he says he abuse is unprovoked yet he writes posts that legitimize the killing of hundreds of thousand,
It is you who is the hypocrite. I dont apply this word to anyone as easily as you do, but the above is proof that you are a shameless liar who keeps repeating his lies about my posts legitimizing the killing of hundreds of thousands. I challenged you before to cut and paste where I am doing this, and you failed to produce that, so you lied some more. You can keep lying till you are blue in the face - that only makes you a bigger hypocrite.
#383 Posted by arjun5 on October 25, 2007 11:11:02 am
#350 Posted by bulleya on October 25, 2007 12:09:05 am
and why its advice should not be followed by pakistan in waziristan
yup..that's why pureland is bombing waziristan..based on "advice" from the US..I didn't realize they changed the meaning of advice to "bomb the frikking jihadis or we'll bomb your ass"..
and why its advice should not be followed by pakistan in waziristan
yup..that's why pureland is bombing waziristan..based on "advice" from the US..I didn't realize they changed the meaning of advice to "bomb the frikking jihadis or we'll bomb your ass"..
#382 Posted by masadi on October 25, 2007 11:09:13 am
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#381 Posted by tahmed32 on October 25, 2007 11:01:22 am
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#380 Posted by arjun5 on October 25, 2007 10:53:05 am
#369 Posted by bulleya on October 25, 2007 7:09:14 am
is the only thing that is important in the world the thoughts of american citizens?
for the american government, yes...
it's a great idea...democracy..you all should try it..
or do the rest of us have a right to say something also?
you have a right to say anything you want..nobody is stopping you from telling us to change our dressing habits..
is the only thing that is important in the world the thoughts of american citizens?
for the american government, yes...
it's a great idea...democracy..you all should try it..
or do the rest of us have a right to say something also?
you have a right to say anything you want..nobody is stopping you from telling us to change our dressing habits..
#379 Posted by tahmed32 on October 25, 2007 10:49:25 am
masadi: you write When you write things like what you wrote in #370 saying regarding American disrespect for others "if it exists by the bucket in the US, it exists by the ocean in Pakistan" People here know whose side you are on even to the extent of dissing (using lies) your own country of origin and its people.
Stating a fact as one understands it does not mean that one has sympathies for one side or another. individuals who take sides on matters of fact are the worst enemies of Pakistan.
As for your repeated and unprovoked abuse (calling me an sos), this says nothing about me, and speaks volumes of the freak that fathered and raised you. What else did your mother teach you, you little piglet?
Stating a fact as one understands it does not mean that one has sympathies for one side or another. individuals who take sides on matters of fact are the worst enemies of Pakistan.
As for your repeated and unprovoked abuse (calling me an sos), this says nothing about me, and speaks volumes of the freak that fathered and raised you. What else did your mother teach you, you little piglet?
#378 Posted by shankar on October 25, 2007 10:44:20 am
sorry,
"Tell me one country whose foreign policy is hypocritical?"
should read "isnt hypocritical"
"Tell me one country whose foreign policy is hypocritical?"
should read "isnt hypocritical"
#377 Posted by shankar on October 25, 2007 10:42:11 am
Romair,
"..i am afraid this is a dangerous thought process, and this is what has resulted in a lot of deaths in the world by the usa......and now has caught the usa, itself, in a lot of trouble...."
I agree. Do you think thats going to change as long as Osama keeps on needling them? As long as Al-Qeeda comits terrorist acts, its going to continue.
Bush & the neocons have alienated friend & foe alike. I dont think the US is very popular in Europe or Canada.
"why exactly isn't what i think important?......is the only thing that is important in the world the thoughts of american citizens?.......or do the rest of us have a right to say something also?......"
sure you do, you chut, so calm down:) Everybody has a chance to talk,but,
please live in the real world. The voice of a superpower is always the loudest.Its been so since human history. What part of that do you not understand?!:)
""do you think there is some hypocricy in that......""
Sure it is. Tell me one country whose foreign policy is hypocritical?
"...i think the world will be a lot safer, if americans start respecting and listening to others' views about the usa......instead of disregarding them.... "
OK, then do me a favor , tell your influential friends in Pakistan to hand over OBL & Co & everybody will be happy.
"..i am afraid this is a dangerous thought process, and this is what has resulted in a lot of deaths in the world by the usa......and now has caught the usa, itself, in a lot of trouble...."
I agree. Do you think thats going to change as long as Osama keeps on needling them? As long as Al-Qeeda comits terrorist acts, its going to continue.
Bush & the neocons have alienated friend & foe alike. I dont think the US is very popular in Europe or Canada.
"why exactly isn't what i think important?......is the only thing that is important in the world the thoughts of american citizens?.......or do the rest of us have a right to say something also?......"
sure you do, you chut, so calm down:) Everybody has a chance to talk,but,
please live in the real world. The voice of a superpower is always the loudest.Its been so since human history. What part of that do you not understand?!:)
""do you think there is some hypocricy in that......""
Sure it is. Tell me one country whose foreign policy is hypocritical?
"...i think the world will be a lot safer, if americans start respecting and listening to others' views about the usa......instead of disregarding them.... "
OK, then do me a favor , tell your influential friends in Pakistan to hand over OBL & Co & everybody will be happy.
#376 Posted by masadi on October 25, 2007 10:40:33 am
In # 375 read "rest of the details about my live "
as "rest of the details about my life
as "rest of the details about my life
#375 Posted by masadi on October 25, 2007 10:39:21 am
tahmed writes "you were fired from a private university and were working for a government college now?"
No, I didn't say I was fired, Okhla in his lying sessions did, the rest of the details about my live are none of your damn business...
No, I didn't say I was fired, Okhla in his lying sessions did, the rest of the details about my live are none of your damn business...
#374 Posted by tahmed32 on October 25, 2007 10:36:16 am
#371 masadi: didnt you say a few months ago that you were fired from a private university and were working for a government college now?
#373 Posted by bubba on October 25, 2007 10:26:46 am
Re: # 372 Posted by masadi on October 25, 2007 10:04:20 am
[I work for a private university making around Rs 60,000 a month]
Is this considered good salary in Pakistan?
[I work for a private university making around Rs 60,000 a month]
Is this considered good salary in Pakistan?
#372 Posted by masadi on October 25, 2007 10:04:20 am
tahmed writes "you unemployed jerk on the pakistani government payroll?"
I am not unemployed and am not on any government's payroll. I work for a private university making around Rs 60,000 a month which is more than enough to pay for all my expenses and leaving time enough for me to bust your BS here
I am not unemployed and am not on any government's payroll. I work for a private university making around Rs 60,000 a month which is more than enough to pay for all my expenses and leaving time enough for me to bust your BS here
#371 Posted by masadi on October 25, 2007 10:00:46 am
tahmed wrote "and i also see you twisted what I wrote about PPP's activities "
I didn't twist anything, you cannot fool people here anymore tahmed. You were singling out BB for support just because like a donkey in the service of its master you want to tug their official line, in that context you said the PPP leadership should have done the same as the BB and accused the NS of eating Nihari all the while the BB was hard at work - you are just a moral-less freak and you think the people here don't understand that? When you write things like what you wrote in #370 saying regarding American disrespect for others "if it exists by the bucket in the US, it exists by the ocean in Pakistan"
People here know whose side you are on even to the extent of dissing (using lies) your own country of origin and its people. The American elite do not understand the world, they have class consciousness up their wazoo so that they can sacrifice whole countries and even their own countrymen for the desires of their class and you,sos,compare that and call it a bucket compared to the ocean in Pakistan? Are you out of your damn mind? And what is your proof? One miserable movie made by a US channel, GEO, how many Hollywood movies do you want me to present to you that have presented Arabs, Blacks and everyone that goes against the current US policies in the most absurdly negative light? And how many polls do you want me to quote to your dumb ass regarding how the US public was clamoring for the Iraq war with the main reason being that Saddam was linked to 9/11? If an ocean of such (non existant national)hypocrisy exists in Pakistan then a whole galaxy worth of it exists in the US.
I didn't twist anything, you cannot fool people here anymore tahmed. You were singling out BB for support just because like a donkey in the service of its master you want to tug their official line, in that context you said the PPP leadership should have done the same as the BB and accused the NS of eating Nihari all the while the BB was hard at work - you are just a moral-less freak and you think the people here don't understand that? When you write things like what you wrote in #370 saying regarding American disrespect for others "if it exists by the bucket in the US, it exists by the ocean in Pakistan"
People here know whose side you are on even to the extent of dissing (using lies) your own country of origin and its people. The American elite do not understand the world, they have class consciousness up their wazoo so that they can sacrifice whole countries and even their own countrymen for the desires of their class and you,sos,compare that and call it a bucket compared to the ocean in Pakistan? Are you out of your damn mind? And what is your proof? One miserable movie made by a US channel, GEO, how many Hollywood movies do you want me to present to you that have presented Arabs, Blacks and everyone that goes against the current US policies in the most absurdly negative light? And how many polls do you want me to quote to your dumb ass regarding how the US public was clamoring for the Iraq war with the main reason being that Saddam was linked to 9/11? If an ocean of such (non existant national)hypocrisy exists in Pakistan then a whole galaxy worth of it exists in the US.
#370 Posted by tahmed32 on October 25, 2007 7:57:13 am
#369 bulleya: you wrote "...i think the world will be a lot safer, if americans start respecting and listening to others' views about the usa"
That is part of the truth, not the whole truth. The whole truth is that it is not merely americans but a common human weakness to not respect other people's views.
E.g. i saw "Khuda ky liya" (which was considered so "moderate" by lal masjid maulvis that they banned it), and guess what this "mainstream" movie had to say on 9/11? the only tragedy they showed was a Pakistani student being beaten by a by a bunch of nazi-like US interrogators. There was total silence on the events of that day when 3000 innocent people were killed.
If you wish to call this human weakness hypocrisy, that is fine. But then recognize that if it exists by the bucket in the US, it exists by the ocean in Pakistan. Because "aaj ke liya" is in fact considered a "mainstream" or "secular" movie that is so anti-maulvi that lal masjid "banned" it, and dvds produced have taken out the critical speech made by the "good muslim" where he exposes the vast gap between mullah "Islam" and the Quran. And yet, even this "mainstream" totally ignores the defining event of 9/11, namely the murderous attacks where planes full of passengers were rammed into offices full of people.
That is part of the truth, not the whole truth. The whole truth is that it is not merely americans but a common human weakness to not respect other people's views.
E.g. i saw "Khuda ky liya" (which was considered so "moderate" by lal masjid maulvis that they banned it), and guess what this "mainstream" movie had to say on 9/11? the only tragedy they showed was a Pakistani student being beaten by a by a bunch of nazi-like US interrogators. There was total silence on the events of that day when 3000 innocent people were killed.
If you wish to call this human weakness hypocrisy, that is fine. But then recognize that if it exists by the bucket in the US, it exists by the ocean in Pakistan. Because "aaj ke liya" is in fact considered a "mainstream" or "secular" movie that is so anti-maulvi that lal masjid "banned" it, and dvds produced have taken out the critical speech made by the "good muslim" where he exposes the vast gap between mullah "Islam" and the Quran. And yet, even this "mainstream" totally ignores the defining event of 9/11, namely the murderous attacks where planes full of passengers were rammed into offices full of people.
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