Khan Khan October 25, 2007
#33 Posted by masadi on October 31, 2007 1:11:27 am
Feroz writes "Secondly, please review your sources. Pre-1789 industrialization in France was limited and did not really take hold till the time of Napoleon III. "
Once again you repeat your old falsehood and as is the Pakistani tradition of the pseudo educated these days, you admit no fault of your own, even though you made a big blunder by putting ONLY the bourgeoisie in the third estate when it comprised of the bourgeoisie as a minority, together with the peasants, serfs, artisans and the urban workers or the proletaiat.
That the bourgeoisie ranks had been swelling in Paris, itself reveals the industrialization was taking a firm hold in pre revolutionary France, they were still a feudal country but the bourgeoisie were fast replacing the nobility. Finally, if the bourgeoisie were as independant as you say they were then indeed industrialization would have become paramount but that was not the case therefore the needed to use the discontent of the masses, the people, the proletariat, the artisans who made enterpreneurs become bourgeoisie etc. For a historian you really have half baked knowledge, I suggest you dust off your books are try reading the events again.
Regarding "policy"- I am not looking a policy because I'm looking at a revolution, only a revolution that totally restructures a society its roots and superstructure will change our fate. Policy on the other hand works through an existing system, that is why you are stuck in the bureaucracy of the status quo which amounts to enslavement by the Americans. Write as much policy as you want, you wont be able to fix anything within the existing structure therefore when you ask for detailed policies, you are mere excuse mongering...
Once again you repeat your old falsehood and as is the Pakistani tradition of the pseudo educated these days, you admit no fault of your own, even though you made a big blunder by putting ONLY the bourgeoisie in the third estate when it comprised of the bourgeoisie as a minority, together with the peasants, serfs, artisans and the urban workers or the proletaiat.
That the bourgeoisie ranks had been swelling in Paris, itself reveals the industrialization was taking a firm hold in pre revolutionary France, they were still a feudal country but the bourgeoisie were fast replacing the nobility. Finally, if the bourgeoisie were as independant as you say they were then indeed industrialization would have become paramount but that was not the case therefore the needed to use the discontent of the masses, the people, the proletariat, the artisans who made enterpreneurs become bourgeoisie etc. For a historian you really have half baked knowledge, I suggest you dust off your books are try reading the events again.
Regarding "policy"- I am not looking a policy because I'm looking at a revolution, only a revolution that totally restructures a society its roots and superstructure will change our fate. Policy on the other hand works through an existing system, that is why you are stuck in the bureaucracy of the status quo which amounts to enslavement by the Americans. Write as much policy as you want, you wont be able to fix anything within the existing structure therefore when you ask for detailed policies, you are mere excuse mongering...
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