Will President Bush Invade Iran?

borivili writes "station wagon, SUV, Lincoln all the same "

No, they are not all the same, station wagons became popular in the post war 1950s period when the suburbs were being populatd, since the jobs at the time were still located in the inner cities, the suburban stay at home wives used to drive their hubbies (the classic nuclear family- that does not exist anymore) to the train station so they could take the train into the city for their work, hence the name "station wagon". Now that I have given you this history lesson, the SUV are hallmark of the newer generation yuppies, who provide service to the elite i.e. are quite subordinate to them.

I tend to agree with Hamid when he says that sky rocketing oil prices will only encourage the US elite to bomb Iran and not discourage it, higher oil prices after Gulf War 1 and 2 only added to the profits of this elite and pained the common man/woman who decides NOTHING in Washington. Republican/Democrat, there is no difference, they float around the same corridors of power and corporate boards regardless of party membership. Not only does the escalation with Iran pay for increasing military budgets and profits of a militarized economy, it will boosts profits of the big oil man, who has a major say (much moreso than any Israeli Jew) about what happens in the Middle East....

zeemax: i thought buxom was an adjective, not a noun.

Gill Saheb:

Aapkay munh mein ghee shakkar, but do not underestimate the stupidity of the Bush administration or the determination and effectiveness of the neocon lobby. As I have been saying, the neocons have succeeded completely in their Iraq objective, which was neither to get rid of Saddam (he could have been easily bought), defeat al-qaida (al-qaida hated Saddam's secular Iraq), bring democracy or the destruction of the non-existing wmds, but to destroy the state of Iraq, plunge it into a civil war leading to its dismemberment, which is now happening.

Having achieved their purpose in Iraq, the neocons are now concentrating on the other potential threat to their friend in the Middle East whose interests they primarily represent. And those interests demand that Iran should never have the ability to have nuclear war-heads capable of hitting Israel. So, unless Russia and China can prevent Iran from terminating or at least slowing down its nuclear program, Iran is not safe from attack.

masadi u are a fool, big money means fuel for relection and hence the prominence of big business of the jewish, oil, or any other kind but all the profit in the world can not get one relected if public sentiment and their vote goes against you and nothing upsets them like a recesion and inflation double whammy check with hoover, carter or george herbert walker bush.

dost-mittar:#67

I understand your argument. That is the reason I had said that the Iran war was an open question. I also said that the clock was running on President Bush. Open war seems to be out of question because he doesn't have time to get approval from the Congress. Bombing is a possibility although it is full of all kinds of dangers. President Bush is on his own on Iran war. Nobody else seems to be supporting him.
Oil question is also a big consideration. Any violent action on Iran will surely disrupt the oil supplies. After everything is said and done, Russian and Chinese support to Iran trumps every thing.
I don't believe that President Bush and his neocon aides will throw every thing over board just to punish Iran howsoever they might hate Ahmedinejad.

freethinker: i think neocons love ahmedinijad. The man could not make more gratuitous, self-defeating statements if you paid him to do so.

tahmed32: #70
You have a point.
Mohammad Gill

hamidm and all the other 'house niggers' who are happy to eat the crumbs off the Bwana's table and in their mental slavery [the worst kind] please answer the following honest questions:

1. Exactly how does Iran represent a threat to the USA? It is 1000s of miles away. It does not have the missiles that can reach the USA. Let us assume it did have a nuke or two and the delivery systems to reach the USA. Even then it would not be a threat to the US simply because any Iranian leader would know that if he nuked 1 US city the US would instantly retaliate with 1000s of nukes and turn the whole of Iran into a parking lot. So that argument of Iran being a military threat doesn't hold logically even in its worse-case scenario. Presently Iran is no threat at all to the US let alone to the 'world'.

2. What about Israel? Isn't a nuclear armed Iran an unacceptable threat to Israel? No. Iran has currently got NO nukes. Again assuming that Iran did acquire them it would be suicidal for them to use them on Israel as Israel would activate its Samson Option and send its 200 nukes all over Iran again wiping out Iran as a country.

3. Knowing the above two are military realities and that no leader would do that--and their is no evidence that Ahmadinijad would do something so detrimental. He's a smart guy [and no he DID NOT threaten to 'wipe Israel off the map'] the question arises WHY does the US want to attack Iran so badly?

Oil. It wants cheap access to Iran's oil and Iran is refusing.

DM sahib, what is wrong with the fragmentation of the jihadi mindset across the world? The model of dismembering muslim states and creating several centers of power is already on the way. why not take this to Iran? and then Saudi and then pakistan and Indonesia.. the global economic growth engines like US, EU, Japan, china, India, Brazil and Russia will continue to thrive as these battles become localized and amongst the various power centers within the muslim countries..fighting to ge their piece of the dwindling pie. Better that the suicide bombing are kept in muslim countries than out in teh places where global growth is determined.

Can some economist explain why an Iranian switch to selling oil in Euros would be opposed by the EU countries? Surely it would strengthen the euro even further against the dollar and be to their benefit? Also, what would be the effect of China dumping trillions of US dollars it currently holds or also switching to euros?

Re: # 72 naqsha it is breaking international trade agreements - tose that deal with making the dollar the reserve currency.....even the euro will have side with the US if Iran carries on with the Bourse in Euros! Even China will not side with Iran when that happens.

That is the key here...if it gives it up life will become just a tad bit easier for all....

This has nothing to with Nukes, but all to do with the roguish ness of the country.

You cannot willy-nilly break international agreements (both cvovert and overt agreements).

Re: # 69 freethinker and Dm it dont matter
(a) if Bush has a few months left
(b) if he currently does not have the congressional approval

War will happen if Iran operationalises the Euro deals (just as sad Man had done before the war) and opens the exchange in Euros. COngressional approvals will got and the Iranians sent back to the stone faster than you can hello.

Re: # 74 check the sites I gave earlier today in #20-#26.

All of the reserves are in $$$$.

Europe doesnot have the resources nor the capabilities or the capacity to absorb international trade like the US does. It is able to absorb ALL THE SURPLUSES of this world and yet carryon.

Hence Euro trade in Oil is a non-starter.

Re: # 67

dost-mittar;

you say: "the neocons have succeeded completely in their Iraq objective, which was neither to get rid of Saddam (he could have been easily bought), defeat al-qaida (al-qaida hated Saddam's secular Iraq), bring democracy or the destruction of the non-existing wmds, but to destroy the state of Iraq, plunge it into a civil war leading to its dismemberment, which is now happening."

.... now why would they do that? .... are you suggesting they are a bunch of crazies who just like to blow up things and kill people ? ...... al-qaeda does that, but even they have a higher cause which, according to them, is to establish al-lah mian's kingdom on this miserable earth ...... what do the neocons want? .... to oust al-lah mian and install bush on his throne? ..... or is it all about israel? .... that in of itself is a worthy cause because tiny isreal is a beacon of hope in that vast desert of depspair ......... but, c'mon, there has to be something more to it .......... is the oil? women? gold? sand? camels? ..... maybe it is all about defending civilization from an onslaught by barbarians from the east ... after all it wasn't long ago that the mongols were killing folks in poland ........

naqsh Iran is no threat to the US read fareed zakaria's latest article and he is a republican. you are right leave aside the us it cannot even atack israel because of MAD but it can and will become more bold and aggresive in its support to various elements which oppose Israel thus making life a bit harder and this the jewish lobby will not tolerate secondly it will make US mideast policy a little more respectful to Iran as also that of its other arab neighbours and may make some of them push for weapons themselves thereby creating a dangerous neighbourhood for Israel and possibly US mid east policy

because currently the world trades in US $$$s doesn't mean it always has to be so. Why cannot the euro replace the dollar?
We are well on a way to a European Superstate and this will help.