Anand Patwardhan October 31, 2007
#1 Posted by neembu on November 1, 2007 3:46:12 pm
Chowk Editors,
Why is term "insolent niggers" not put in quotation marks? Hello?!
Why is term "insolent niggers" not put in quotation marks? Hello?!
#2 Posted by stuka on November 1, 2007 4:21:29 pm
Mr. Patwardhan, why don't you do us all a favour and move to Africa as well? I hold no brief for Bobby Jindal but who are you to insinuate that an Indian cannot hold conservative views?
#3 Posted by dost_mittar on November 1, 2007 4:48:57 pm
Bobby Jindal's victory is a triumph of assimilation. He became Christian in a Christian country and became a conservative Republican in a Republican state. Whether he did it through conviction or as calculated moves is something only Bobby knows.
I would have expected Hindu nationalists to lament his conversion to another religion. But they seem to celebrate his victory as that of one of their own. But it seems that Indian Leftists cannot feel happy over the victory of someone from the opposite end of the ideological spectrum. Looks like ideological blood is thicker than religion/ethnicity.
I would have expected Hindu nationalists to lament his conversion to another religion. But they seem to celebrate his victory as that of one of their own. But it seems that Indian Leftists cannot feel happy over the victory of someone from the opposite end of the ideological spectrum. Looks like ideological blood is thicker than religion/ethnicity.
#4 Posted by KaalChakra on November 1, 2007 5:07:54 pm
One communist brother recently performed a lachrimose bhangra on Chowk complaining how leftists were not considered true Indians/Hindus. Now, another one seeks to cut a person off because of the latter's conservative views.
For the good of India and the world, we must do WHATEVER upsets Indian communists the most.
Bobby Jindal zindabad. Long live the fanatical, conservative, Christian Jindal.
For the good of India and the world, we must do WHATEVER upsets Indian communists the most.
Bobby Jindal zindabad. Long live the fanatical, conservative, Christian Jindal.
#5 Posted by KaalChakra on November 1, 2007 5:22:43 pm
By the way, what is Jayatirath Rao doing in a communist piece? Years ago, there used be one Jayatirath Rao in Citibank, and at that time the man was too intelligent to have any truck with the red menace.
Hope this Jayatirath Rao is someone else, or Mr. Patwardhan is not implying any agreement with Jerry on any subject.
Hope this Jayatirath Rao is someone else, or Mr. Patwardhan is not implying any agreement with Jerry on any subject.
#6 Posted by 2sadanand on November 1, 2007 6:11:27 pm
#1 by Neembu.
Clearly an oversight. Thanks for alert reading.
Clearly an oversight. Thanks for alert reading.
#7 Posted by ISlamIslam on November 1, 2007 6:20:07 pm
[Africa takes us to the core of what ‘Indian values’ should mean. Baba Amate, Arvind Kejariwal, Verghese Kurien, Aruna Roy, Rajendra Singh, Mabelle Arole are, to name just a few, outstanding heroes who have shown great fortitude, entrepreneurship & resourcefulness in their respective areas of work to create self supporting & self reliant community structures. They have created real wealth, the wealth of dignity & happiness for all. An inclusive growth not just limited to ‘High Achievers’ Rao talks about. The replication of their work would aid generously in taking India to the number one position in GNH - gross national happiness.]
Real African values include schistosomosis, river blindness, AIDS infecting in excess of 40% of the population of a country, and in earlier times, selling one's fellow humans to slave traders. We can add to that genocide and murderous dictatorships in modern times.
In addition, real African values also include having children out of wedlock, a pattern that persists even today some 350+ years after some Africans were forcibly moved out of the Dark Continent to the American continent.
High achievers such as Azim Premji, Narayanamoorthy of Infosys, Ratan Tata, etc., have created more wealth and more millionaires than Baba Amate, Arvind Kejariwal, Verghese Kurien, Aruna Roy, Rajendra Singh, Mabelle Arole, etc. Even the Communists of China have figured out that "sharing of wealth" results only in sharing of misery after the freeloaders use up all the money saved by those who have real respect for the value and power of money.
[GNH is based on the concept of ‘Ubuntu’. Ubuntu is a word that symbolizes the philosophy originating in Southern Africa. Ubuntu means ‘I am because you are’.]
No, Ubuntu really means "Now you are as poor as me".
Real African values include schistosomosis, river blindness, AIDS infecting in excess of 40% of the population of a country, and in earlier times, selling one's fellow humans to slave traders. We can add to that genocide and murderous dictatorships in modern times.
In addition, real African values also include having children out of wedlock, a pattern that persists even today some 350+ years after some Africans were forcibly moved out of the Dark Continent to the American continent.
High achievers such as Azim Premji, Narayanamoorthy of Infosys, Ratan Tata, etc., have created more wealth and more millionaires than Baba Amate, Arvind Kejariwal, Verghese Kurien, Aruna Roy, Rajendra Singh, Mabelle Arole, etc. Even the Communists of China have figured out that "sharing of wealth" results only in sharing of misery after the freeloaders use up all the money saved by those who have real respect for the value and power of money.
[GNH is based on the concept of ‘Ubuntu’. Ubuntu is a word that symbolizes the philosophy originating in Southern Africa. Ubuntu means ‘I am because you are’.]
No, Ubuntu really means "Now you are as poor as me".
#8 Posted by neembu on November 1, 2007 7:52:18 pm
Re: # 7
Actually, Africa is the birthplace of all civilization, the continent that has originated astronomy, medicine, science, maths, physics, the most egalitarian society known to antiquity, and anyone with brains and a library card would understand that having read the work of Basil Davidson, Henry Louis Gates, Ivan van Sertima, Toyin Falola and countless other African Studies scholars.
Actually, Africa is the birthplace of all civilization, the continent that has originated astronomy, medicine, science, maths, physics, the most egalitarian society known to antiquity, and anyone with brains and a library card would understand that having read the work of Basil Davidson, Henry Louis Gates, Ivan van Sertima, Toyin Falola and countless other African Studies scholars.
#9 Posted by ISlamIslam on November 1, 2007 8:00:09 pm
Re neembu #8
[Actually, Africa is the birthplace of all civilization, the continent that has originated astronomy, medicine, science, maths, physics, the most egalitarian society known to antiquity, and anyone with brains and a library card would understand that having read the work of Basil Davidson, Henry Louis Gates, Ivan van Sertima, Toyin Falola and countless other African Studies scholars.]
Once I finish the works of Basil Davidson, Henry Louis Gates, Ivan van Sertima, Toyin Falola and countless other African Studies scholars, I shall move on to Women's Studies scholars.
Each of them (African Studies and Women's Studies) should take about a week, ha ha ha! Though some people have managed to make a life's career at universities based on such stuff!
After that, I shall enroll for classes under Rohit Chopra!
[Actually, Africa is the birthplace of all civilization, the continent that has originated astronomy, medicine, science, maths, physics, the most egalitarian society known to antiquity, and anyone with brains and a library card would understand that having read the work of Basil Davidson, Henry Louis Gates, Ivan van Sertima, Toyin Falola and countless other African Studies scholars.]
Once I finish the works of Basil Davidson, Henry Louis Gates, Ivan van Sertima, Toyin Falola and countless other African Studies scholars, I shall move on to Women's Studies scholars.
Each of them (African Studies and Women's Studies) should take about a week, ha ha ha! Though some people have managed to make a life's career at universities based on such stuff!
After that, I shall enroll for classes under Rohit Chopra!
#11 Posted by majumdar on November 1, 2007 9:45:04 pm
(Real African values include schistosomosis, river blindness, AIDS infecting in excess of 40% of the population of a country, and in earlier times, selling one's fellow humans to slave traders. We can add to that genocide and murderous dictatorships in modern times.In addition, real African values also include having children out of wedlock, a pattern that persists even today some 350+ years after some Africans were forcibly moved out of the Dark Continent to the American continent.)
Good God!!! Another Hindu racist, casteist, fascist, misogynist bigoted freak!!!
Regards
Good God!!! Another Hindu racist, casteist, fascist, misogynist bigoted freak!!!
Regards
#12 Posted by ISlamIslam on November 2, 2007 12:16:20 am
Re neembu #9
[is that the crackpipe talking?]
If I were taking/teaching Women's Studies one could say that.
But I am not.
[is that the crackpipe talking?]
If I were taking/teaching Women's Studies one could say that.
But I am not.
#13 Posted by jayp on November 2, 2007 1:09:15 am
Two Indians arrested with knives at US airport
New York (PTI): Two Mumbai-bound Indians flying from Atlanta were apprehended for carrying folding and steak knives in their carry-on baggage just as the flight was about leave but FBI said it was not a case of terrorism.
Chhaganbhai Patel, 60, was found carrying a double bladed folding knife, 20 steak knives and razor blades, hidden in the battery compartment of a toy car, during a regular screening at Hartsfield-Jackson Airport in Atlanta.
On questioning, the security officials found that he had a companion Shakarabhai Patel, 64, who was also pulled out of the plane. A search of baggage revealed that he was carrying a box cutter and $ 5000 in cash.
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Clearly the two indians were followers of Osama, trying o imitate another 9/11, this time 1/11 per teh asian way fo writing of dates.
New York (PTI): Two Mumbai-bound Indians flying from Atlanta were apprehended for carrying folding and steak knives in their carry-on baggage just as the flight was about leave but FBI said it was not a case of terrorism.
Chhaganbhai Patel, 60, was found carrying a double bladed folding knife, 20 steak knives and razor blades, hidden in the battery compartment of a toy car, during a regular screening at Hartsfield-Jackson Airport in Atlanta.
On questioning, the security officials found that he had a companion Shakarabhai Patel, 64, who was also pulled out of the plane. A search of baggage revealed that he was carrying a box cutter and $ 5000 in cash.
////////////////////////
Clearly the two indians were followers of Osama, trying o imitate another 9/11, this time 1/11 per teh asian way fo writing of dates.
#14 Posted by Dash_Dot on November 2, 2007 2:53:14 am
the authors complaint seems to be more along the lines of why is this trumped up litle upstart getting so many headlines in India.....surely he has no right to these many column inches when there are more worthy Indians in India who should receive these colun inches.
To this you add the dimension of ideological incompatibility, the odd-racial-sterotype juxtaposed vis-a-vis the consevrative-stereotype you have a pretty volatile and heedy mix for the left-wingers. Also note: the left-wingers are more articulate and seem to have a greater quantity of vitriol in their tanks.
To this you add the dimension of ideological incompatibility, the odd-racial-sterotype juxtaposed vis-a-vis the consevrative-stereotype you have a pretty volatile and heedy mix for the left-wingers. Also note: the left-wingers are more articulate and seem to have a greater quantity of vitriol in their tanks.
#15 Posted by bjkumar on November 2, 2007 3:14:50 am
Bobby Jindal’s getting elected the governor of his state represents a remarkable accomplishment.
He symbolizes the fact that one can keep one’s values on one's own without the crutches of its superficial covers. He has changed his religious label and his nickname but he has no lesser an understanding of his roots and his identity and his sources of strength than any chowkie here.
Equally important, the state of Louisiana also represents what the new American south is all about. The new American south looks beyond the skin color and judges people for their values.
The new American south is about positive things and the new American blood (which the Jindal represents) is about positive things and neither of the two is about being held hostage to a sometimes dubious past.
He symbolizes the fact that one can keep one’s values on one's own without the crutches of its superficial covers. He has changed his religious label and his nickname but he has no lesser an understanding of his roots and his identity and his sources of strength than any chowkie here.
Equally important, the state of Louisiana also represents what the new American south is all about. The new American south looks beyond the skin color and judges people for their values.
The new American south is about positive things and the new American blood (which the Jindal represents) is about positive things and neither of the two is about being held hostage to a sometimes dubious past.
#16 Posted by jang on November 2, 2007 3:17:50 pm
"Born on 10 June 1971 to Hindu parents, who had immigrated to Baton Rouge, Louisiana just 6 months earlier, he converted to Catholic faith early in life in the most Catholic state in the whole of USA and changed his name to anglicized ‘Bobby’ from the given name ‘Piyush’ at age four."
can you clarify this sentence a bit..its not about english..the time-line of his conversion apparently is important to this article and this sentence is really confusing to me.
can you clarify this sentence a bit..its not about english..the time-line of his conversion apparently is important to this article and this sentence is really confusing to me.
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