The Price of Loving Karl Marx

The miserable Chowk staff had said they were banning me for 24 hours but ended up extending it to 48 hours just for the sake of punishing me for my ideas. Regime change is what is needed at Chowk, it needs to be a people's site not a site that promotes the perversions of the US elite...

dsna writes "Dr. Sohail has put sociological aspect of the life of a great philosopher under spotlight..."

Sohail knows nothing about sociology, he's a shrink, a psycho- psychologist. His purpose in writing this article was to give a veiled, mullahesque, ad hominem attack on Marx. He does not care that because of his work, people understood, possibly for the first time the importance of the historical method in understanding social structure, thereby shattering the myth of a benign social system that is classless and affects all equally...

Nov 1, 2007

The miserable Chowk staff had banned me yet once again using a most nonsense excuse, a quite benign post in which I had likened tahmed (the peon of the West) to a retired donkey who keeps singing the tune of its masters even though it has been let free- note the likened, i.e. a likeness or an analogy or a parable. These sikkos used that excuse to ban me just because I expose the barbarism of the US elite, and speak for the masses who are a victim to their policies, just because of that reason they ban me and they allow dimwits like Sohail to reproduce banal article after article with veiled ad hominems against people who have similarly stood up for humanity as the immoral ignoramus defends the US system of oppression.

Look Sohail, one million of you and one of Marx and even then his contribution to human thought an betterment would be greater....than a million of your lifetimes.....do your own math

Dr. Sohail has put sociological aspect of the life of a great philosopher under spotlight. It would have been better if the socio-economic conditions prevalent at that time were also somehow highlighted and connected to this. It was a time of great depression and jobs were even difficult to get for professional, organized and people leading normal life. It was extremely improbable that a person, who was ahead of his times, could lead a normal life under those conditions. Above all Marx was shaking the very foundation of the capitalist society with his “theory of surplus value” and could not have expected anything better. People like Jenny Von Westphalen are very difficult to get these days. She was a woman of a very strong character and her love for Marx was without any doubt. Marx, in spite of all his creativity, was after all only a human being, with all his faults and should be judged as such.

Is Marxism dead?

Harpo, Chico and Groucho Marx will live on...

Karl was many things but entertaining he was not.


Ras

#15 So that is what they mean by "Behind every successful man is a woman"?

Either Marx was a loser, or Marxists are losers. Socialism Murdabad.

Dr. Sohail, I read your piece side-by-side with Dr. Gill’s write-up on the love life of Einstein and I can not help but gather the following.

Men who use-and-discard their women like dish rags – they become great scientists!

Men who have their wives pay the bills – they become great communists!

Nice writing!
wife of every ambitious man is lonely and has hard time.
I have sympathy for Jenny.

Nice to read.
Wife of every ambitios man is loney and has hard time.
I have sympathy for Jenny!

Sohail Sahib, this was a nice read. Often, lost in the popularity of such personalities are their near and dear. Thanks for letting us know about the woman who made Marx possible.

Re: # 1
Dear GT...I did not write this article for political correctness. I have been studying creative personalities...poets, philosophers, reformers and revolutionaries, whether men or women and I find that they have non-traditional lifestyles and their traditional spouses have to pay the sacrifice in the name of love. If you want examples of women you can read the biographies of Anais Nin and Virginia Woolf...their husbands had to pay the price like the wife of Marx. Anais Nin had an affair with novelist Henry Miller and Virginia Woolf had a lesbian affair.
Marx's marriage with his wife is presented as ideal by many Marxists...the reality is far from it. For me these struggles do not take away from the greatness of Marx or Virginia Woolf or other creative personalities. Rafi Aamer had presented the romantic life of Allama Iqbal on chowk with similar struggles. That does not take away that Iqbal was a wonderful philosopher and poet but a troubled husband.
sincerely sohail

Hey, you think Jenny had it tough?

We had Nehru and his coterie loving Marx and it got one billion Indians Hell on earth.

Screw Jenny!

In fact, screw Karl Marx!

While we are at it, screw Communists the world over.

Re: # If correct mr KM died in England. His last years of life spent spent in London. Our politicians especially MQM Chief AH, PPP chief BB and ML chief NS were also exiled to London. This reaLLY STARNGE BUT VERY SIMILAR TO SUFFERING BY mR. mARX. It is strange nature of English people they give asulum to all politicals till now. Bengali exiled, PM of our also died in london , E.Mirza also died in londo (?). London and Pakistan more related at each other. When problem in India all leaders fly to London. English elites by being kind to Indopaki politicians finally control des.
mR. mARK SAID APTLY, THIESE things happen as tragedy and then they are repeated as farce. I do not think mr. Marx had as many followers as each of above. His friend Engle was distressed when no "working class appeared for his funeral".

apofomy #7: "Even the prophet was not allowed to pray for the forgiveness of his parents Marx to door kee baat hay."

This is religion as Made in Pakistan. Please dont call this religion Islam. Thank you.

Re: # 2
Great man or not please do not make a prophet out of him brovili. And Allah nay ghair musalamanon kee maghfarat mangnay kee ijazat nahee dee hay. Even the prophet was not allowed to pray for the forgiveness of his parents Marx to door kee baat hay.