Mohammad Gill November 2, 2007
#9 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 3:05:26 am
HP writes "Finally, I cannot believe that some people actually bought this junk book and read it too. Helping some Charity in Pakistan with that money could have been a worthy effort."
Just look at where this person is coming from and it will become very easy to believe why he did it. For him helping a Pak charity would be helping "inferiors", since he says he "discovered" his own humanity in the US for the very first time, he is merely reaffirming his "humanity" by helping fill the pockets of his gods with his hard earned money, hoping that by doing so he might brush off some of theirs, in other words, it makes him feel like them, being intersted in their elite BS....
Just look at where this person is coming from and it will become very easy to believe why he did it. For him helping a Pak charity would be helping "inferiors", since he says he "discovered" his own humanity in the US for the very first time, he is merely reaffirming his "humanity" by helping fill the pockets of his gods with his hard earned money, hoping that by doing so he might brush off some of theirs, in other words, it makes him feel like them, being intersted in their elite BS....
#10 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 3:12:16 am
Gill writes "The book was published by Simons and Schuster in 2007 and is dedicated to Joe."
The book is not dedicated to Joe, it is dedicated to the long tradition and culture of the US elite that pervades the entire society that of turning every human tradedy (like the Iraq war) and every personal, family intimacy into a money making enterprise. In other words, by writing this book Valerie Plame has whored herself following the best traditon of the American elite....
The book is not dedicated to Joe, it is dedicated to the long tradition and culture of the US elite that pervades the entire society that of turning every human tradedy (like the Iraq war) and every personal, family intimacy into a money making enterprise. In other words, by writing this book Valerie Plame has whored herself following the best traditon of the American elite....
#11 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 3:13:12 am
In #10 read "every human tradedy ", as "every human tragedy"
#12 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 6:18:05 am
Emergency has been declared in Pakistan, all private media channels have been taken off air. The military has taken over the courts and is deployed all across Karachi and Islamabad. Musharraf has gone against US wishes and preempted their marital law, he will now be deposed by the new army chief if not taken out by a US missile...
#13 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 6:24:23 am
like Zia ul Fcuk's time, PTV is ruling the media airwaves....
#14 Posted by freethinker on November 3, 2007 6:38:28 am
HP: #5
Political truths are not always as certified and credible as the scientific truths, Invariably there are at least two sides to a political event. I try to keep my mind open. I absorb various views of a political event in which I am interested and try to sort out what seems reasonable. The views you have expressed are the other side of the coin. The author has also described these dissident views in her book.
However, the subsequent events did prove that Wilson's report of the touted Iraq-Niger deal was correct. He was in Niger not for one day but at least a week.
At one place in the book (page 169), the author wrote, "The fact was however that I neither suggested Joe nor recommended him. There was no ulterior motive. I did not have the authority to send Joe to Niger or anywhere else, even if I had wanted to."
I wrote a review of the book reflecting the author's story as was described by her, without interjecting my personal views into it. You've every right to consider it a junket but at least read it before you do so. The book is very read-worthy in spite of heavy redations.
I do appreciate your feedback; at least it pertains to the subject matter of the article. Thanks and with regards,
Mohammad Gill
Political truths are not always as certified and credible as the scientific truths, Invariably there are at least two sides to a political event. I try to keep my mind open. I absorb various views of a political event in which I am interested and try to sort out what seems reasonable. The views you have expressed are the other side of the coin. The author has also described these dissident views in her book.
However, the subsequent events did prove that Wilson's report of the touted Iraq-Niger deal was correct. He was in Niger not for one day but at least a week.
At one place in the book (page 169), the author wrote, "The fact was however that I neither suggested Joe nor recommended him. There was no ulterior motive. I did not have the authority to send Joe to Niger or anywhere else, even if I had wanted to."
I wrote a review of the book reflecting the author's story as was described by her, without interjecting my personal views into it. You've every right to consider it a junket but at least read it before you do so. The book is very read-worthy in spite of heavy redations.
I do appreciate your feedback; at least it pertains to the subject matter of the article. Thanks and with regards,
Mohammad Gill
#15 Posted by masadi on November 3, 2007 6:53:08 am
Gill writes "I wrote a review of the book reflecting the author's story as was described by her, without interjecting my personal views into it"
If you put your "personal views" into it, at least we would know you have a mind of your own rather than being a tape recorderesque summarizer of the rote type of education. On the other hand you did put some mind into it taking sides with one against the other (using others popular arguments) when both are damn criminals.
Regarding my criticism not dealing with the article, of course they do, they unmask the peon who sees his humanity by enslaving himself to others. Once people understand that they can deconstruct your (and Sohails) mass produced articles...
If you put your "personal views" into it, at least we would know you have a mind of your own rather than being a tape recorderesque summarizer of the rote type of education. On the other hand you did put some mind into it taking sides with one against the other (using others popular arguments) when both are damn criminals.
Regarding my criticism not dealing with the article, of course they do, they unmask the peon who sees his humanity by enslaving himself to others. Once people understand that they can deconstruct your (and Sohails) mass produced articles...
#16 Posted by Kamath on November 3, 2007 2:00:41 pm
Re: # 14
What do you say Mohammad?
How much $$ Valerie might have received from publishers of the book.? Take a gusess!
Kamath
What do you say Mohammad?
How much $$ Valerie might have received from publishers of the book.? Take a gusess!
Kamath
#17 Posted by freethinker on November 3, 2007 2:30:32 pm
Kamath:
That I don't know. The contents of the book are of great interest to the media and the public. The publisher must have paid her a bundle.
But I am also inclined to believe that money was not the driving motivation for her to write the book.She and her husband took on the deceitful administration at the risk of their careers and their and their children's lives. She wrote in the book that she had received numerous threats.
Mohammad Gill
That I don't know. The contents of the book are of great interest to the media and the public. The publisher must have paid her a bundle.
But I am also inclined to believe that money was not the driving motivation for her to write the book.She and her husband took on the deceitful administration at the risk of their careers and their and their children's lives. She wrote in the book that she had received numerous threats.
Mohammad Gill
#18 Posted by Kamath on November 4, 2007 9:20:28 am
Re: # 17 Mohammad:
Thank you for your kind comments.
Wa Salaam.
Kamath
Thank you for your kind comments.
Wa Salaam.
Kamath
#19 Posted by hassann on November 5, 2007 12:16:13 pm
Re: # 8
Zeemax:
I do not know the situation in Swat or Jamia Hafsa episode. Since you knowledgeable about opposing view point can you please educate us about the following:
1. How can peace be restored in Waziristan and Swat?
2. If another government building is taken over say the supreme court by pious muslims what should the authorities do?
3. If Sharia is to be implemented, what steps should be taken by the people who implement it?
People like us read the newspapers, see the stories such us Maulana coming on a black horse and then beating barbers first and then closing their shops. Secondly closing the video stores and lastly public beheading of six people.
Maybe all of these stories are wrong. All of us would like to be educated from the perspective of Maulana Fazalullah.
Thanks.
Zeemax:
I do not know the situation in Swat or Jamia Hafsa episode. Since you knowledgeable about opposing view point can you please educate us about the following:
1. How can peace be restored in Waziristan and Swat?
2. If another government building is taken over say the supreme court by pious muslims what should the authorities do?
3. If Sharia is to be implemented, what steps should be taken by the people who implement it?
People like us read the newspapers, see the stories such us Maulana coming on a black horse and then beating barbers first and then closing their shops. Secondly closing the video stores and lastly public beheading of six people.
Maybe all of these stories are wrong. All of us would like to be educated from the perspective of Maulana Fazalullah.
Thanks.
#20 Posted by Kamath on November 6, 2007 5:30:48 am
Re: # 19
This article is about Valerie a spy betrayed by some members of her own government. It is not about Pakistani politics. So why not stick to the subject and discuss!
Kamath
This article is about Valerie a spy betrayed by some members of her own government. It is not about Pakistani politics. So why not stick to the subject and discuss!
Kamath
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