Pervez Musharraf Declares Emergency in Pakistan

tahmed writes " Pakistanis one day will enjoy the same rights that you and I enjoy in the US"

Tahmed means the right to be picked up at will by the FBI and detained and charged with terrorism because he looks like what they call a "rag head", the right to given a janitorial job, to be hired last and fired first, and other such rights that he "enjoys" in the US

Hamid Saab.. I have visited Swat a million times with my family, and calling Sawatis savages is an insult to savages. You don’t see women outside, women are forced to peek thru a 6 inch by 6 inch window (but face must not be shown) even to get groceries. I don’t know what T saab is mumbling about. These bastards there live in the 6th century BC and the sooner they are shoved in hell the better for all. They have in the last 5 weeks closed 10 girls schools there. Anyone sympathizing with them is a moron. All of Tribals do not belong in any civilized society. They need to be changed.

Hamidm Sahib:

My wish is the same. Pakistanis need 10 to 15 years of peaceful period to rebuild economy, reform education and empower Pakistani women. I think, if Pakistani army can dispatch and contain all terrorism inside Swat, FATA, and other northern territories, and separate the powers for the rest and give to the civilians that will make Pakistan peaceful for rebuilding right institutions.

hamidm #25 I assume you conducted a quick poll and determined that there is no public anger at the emergency declaration. Even Musharraf is in no position to say where all this is headed at this stage, so let us just pray that innocent lives are not lost and that Pakistanis one day will enjoy the same rights that you and I enjoy in the US. Whether that happens by Musharraf being toppled, or more years of this Reign of the Wardi, I dont know.

As for swatis and tribals - I happen to have known some folks from there, and am pleased to inform you that they are not quite the "savages" you assume.

Re: # 4 by hamidm2 on November 3, 2007 10:16:28 am

[..........as for the pakistani public, i just tried to do a quick poll of my friends and family but nobody seemed to be interested in this latest brouhaha because of all the weddings going on ....... this is the wedding season and musharaf's timing was impeccable ......]

Did you ask your family the new requirements on how many guests can be invited for the valima?

Re: # 5

tahmed,

... i think we expat pakistanis don't really understand the ground realities - there just doesn't seem to be any "public anger" at musharraf ..... maybe in swat and waziristan, but those savages don't really count and all they will achieve is shahadat - good riddance to bad rubbish!

..... the rest of the rural population doesn't count because they don't have the money to buy a bus ticket to the cities, where the action is ........ the urban population other than the jiyalas and activists are busy with the wedding season ....... maybe after the wedding season they might take notice of what is going on ....... this time around, i doubt if the black coated lawyers will be able to make much of a difference either ......the judges who don't take oath will be sent home and they will find new ones - judges are a dime a dozen .......... the political parties are a bunch of yahoos who are in total disarry and most of them are a jokers anyway ...... it is all same same ......... musharraf will cook up something and a loori langrey civilian government will be in place by march after a rigged election in january ...... enjoy !

hamidm#4:

I think that you are right and so is Jang. I watched Condi Rice and I had the impression that she is fully involved in it. I won't be surprised if BB is also part of the whole game and her going to Dubai and returning was part of a plan.

SC is out of the way and Nawaz is at a safe distance. All Musharraf has to do is to declare that he will be giving up his uniform and assuming Presidency and that the (rigged?) elections will go on. QED!

Re: # 19 I have been saying for 50 years ( from age of 10, thinking of my parents and people around me, my dauhters, wife, teachers and students who chaet and run to usa with out paying tutor etc). You said properly in nutshell. WE have spend natational life of 60 years in search of mirage of democrcy and at end you get usa inspired democratic armed forces dictectorship. I will go to sleep. Note are ready for retards , retards do not understand still difference between tensor and vector. I told them many times about point nature and invarience of tensor compared to vectors. I get these tutions and money and their brains inferior than my cats and its punishment to teach children of donkeys.). bye now will hit bed. Nots look good

Re: # 19 I have been saying for 50 years ( from age of 10, thinking of my parents and people around me, my dauhters, wife, teachers and students who chaet and run to usa with out paying tutor etc). You said properly in nutshell. WE have spend natational life of 60 years in search of mirage of democrcy and at end you get usa inspired democratic armed forces dictectorship. I will go to sleep. Note are ready for retards , retards do not understand still difference between tensor and vector. I told them many times about point nature and invarience of tensor compared to vectors. I get these tutions and money and their brains inferior than my cats and its punishment to teach children of donkeys.). bye now will hit bed. Nots look good

Re: # 19 I have been saying for 50 years ( from age of 10, thinking of my parents and people around me, my dauhters, wife, teachers and students who chaet and run to usa with out paying tutor etc). You said properly in nutshell. WE have spend natational life of 60 years in search of mirage of democrcy and at end you get usa inspired democratic armed forces dictectorship. I will go to sleep. Note are ready for retards , retards do not understand still difference between tensor and vector. I told them many times about point nature and invarience of tensor compared to vectors. I get these tutions and money and their brains inferior than my cats and its punishment to teach children of donkeys.). bye now will hit bed. Nots look good

Re: # 4

Hamidm Sahib:

"....... BFD! "

I am in agreement with you.

Jis ki lathi uski bhains - is the rule of law in Pakistan. Governance of Pakistan and transition to democracy is more important. Musharraff indeed has guts and convictions. His overall track record will be lauded, if he were democratically elected. It will be very sad moment, if emotions take over Pakistan. Emotions will not deliver democracy. These institutions need nurturing. Western frontiers were supposed to be strategic depth, instead came few hundred miles closer to Islamabad to choke.

Musharraff (= Army) must be believed for now, if he will handover power-separation to Benazir (=PPP).

maybe pakistanis are not destined for democracy ? :-(

laddu--your wet dream of pakistanis abandoning islam is a silly hindu's fantasy that's all. it ain't happening dude. unless you somehow kill all of us--which isn't gonna happen either because even if you kill us we still win! we're in a win-win situation!

getting back to mushy--it is only merlot-munafiquoon muslims like him who are the enemy of islam by being sychophantic towards the enemies of islam. see, he doesn't care about islam he only cares about his own power. he is your best friend.

.... and the experiment continues .....

Re: # 14

I-Slam-Islam bhai,

As an idolator I would not even think in my dreams of "re-unifying" with the Islamic state where every one is high on the Islamic drug.
Perhaps I would prefer that they kill each other than attack idolators.
Islam is Sunnat and Sunnat is like obsession of a crazed film star fan - except that here Mo replaces the film star and the item of worship is a formless moon god.
Unless and until Islam is destroyed the Pakistani muslims have no solution in hand.
Islam makes them fight and become unstable. Unless muslims takes to apostasy in a big way I do not see any solution for Pakistan to come out of the impending doom.

The thing to see is if elections are held on schedule. I think this Martial Law is being used to deal with all those who don't agree with Musharraf and not affecting those who do(agree with Musharraf). Its like chowk staff and chowk guidelines :).