Chowk November 3, 2007
#161 Posted by rf786 on November 4, 2007 4:15:22 am
Re: # 159
"Sovereignty of Allah can only work with rulers who really do believe Allah to be the ultimate giver or taker. Thieves do not count in this category."
Another method to impose fascism in the guise of religious superiority.
"And the category of such people as the former does exist. Mullah Umar is one. Fazlullah is another. So is Moulvi Faqir of Bajaur."
All pretenders of Islam of the pure Wahabi faith.
"Sovereignty of Allah can only work with rulers who really do believe Allah to be the ultimate giver or taker. Thieves do not count in this category."
Another method to impose fascism in the guise of religious superiority.
"And the category of such people as the former does exist. Mullah Umar is one. Fazlullah is another. So is Moulvi Faqir of Bajaur."
All pretenders of Islam of the pure Wahabi faith.
#162 Posted by RMor on November 4, 2007 4:51:37 am
Thank you General Musharaf for having the foresight to see what others can not, and the courage to implement it.
Get rid of those terrorists harbored and growing by the hour in Pakistan!
The sane world is behind you all the way.
Get rid of those terrorists harbored and growing by the hour in Pakistan!
The sane world is behind you all the way.
#163 Posted by ch0wkidar on November 4, 2007 6:38:35 am
Why the General was wearing "Bullet Proof" vest while addressing the nation on TV? Any clue?
#164 Posted by tahmed32 on November 4, 2007 7:09:24 am
zeemax #159: mullah fazlullah - or even the devil himself - would be fine IF he was qualified to run for elections and won fair and square. Since the voice of the people is the voice of God.
But you know as well as anyone that the only way fazlulah can come to power is the way musharraf has come to power - by force.
Since musharraf has more guns than fazlullah, he wins. And Jinnah groans in his grave. And the devil dances with joy at the nightmare that has been made of every true Pakistanis dream (at least for now).
But you know as well as anyone that the only way fazlulah can come to power is the way musharraf has come to power - by force.
Since musharraf has more guns than fazlullah, he wins. And Jinnah groans in his grave. And the devil dances with joy at the nightmare that has been made of every true Pakistanis dream (at least for now).
#165 Posted by bubba on November 4, 2007 7:52:50 am
Re: # 109 Posted by zeemax on November 3, 2007 10:29:09 pm
[I suggest you read musharraf's speech of last night to see who his beef is with.] Good suggestion, and it seems that Mush did not like the supreme court and the judiciary. He wants to remain supremo. He is Castro in the making, but this time this pottery is made in the usa.
[I suggest you read musharraf's speech of last night to see who his beef is with.] Good suggestion, and it seems that Mush did not like the supreme court and the judiciary. He wants to remain supremo. He is Castro in the making, but this time this pottery is made in the usa.
#166 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 4, 2007 10:59:00 am
#4,Hamindumdum2{" this is the wedding season and musharaf's timing was impeccable ...... "}
Hamidum Sahib,
You have a very good point about Mushy's timing in usurping total power in the midst of this wedding season. What was that English rite about the Lord having the right to the first night with the bride of a peasant? The Lord hath all the cherries.
Hamidum Sahib,
You have a very good point about Mushy's timing in usurping total power in the midst of this wedding season. What was that English rite about the Lord having the right to the first night with the bride of a peasant? The Lord hath all the cherries.
#167 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 4, 2007 11:02:47 am
{"Since musharraf has more guns than fazlullah, he wins. And Jinnah groans in his grave. And the devil dances with joy at the nightmare that has been made of every true Pakistanis dream (at least for now). "}
Hypo Chacha Al Butteesi,
Now you know how some other Pakis feel when the well-armed armed forces and "civilian" democracies of Pakistani power elite refuse to repatriate "stranded" Pakis in BD. Perhaps you are the devil, but you dance like Bush's Laura - a total Lame Ass.
Hypo Chacha Al Butteesi,
Now you know how some other Pakis feel when the well-armed armed forces and "civilian" democracies of Pakistani power elite refuse to repatriate "stranded" Pakis in BD. Perhaps you are the devil, but you dance like Bush's Laura - a total Lame Ass.
#168 Posted by SR on November 4, 2007 12:51:31 pm
Case of "Pinky vs. Mushy" hearing in the Court of Law.
"So, madam, when did you first realize that you had been raped," inquired the judge of the lady in green and white.
The teary eyed hooker replied, "when his cheque bounced."
...SR
"So, madam, when did you first realize that you had been raped," inquired the judge of the lady in green and white.
The teary eyed hooker replied, "when his cheque bounced."
...SR
#169 Posted by SR on November 4, 2007 1:03:29 pm
Watch two indicators that will point out to what lies immediately ahead.
1) Over the next week or two if at least a million people don’t take to the streets in wide spread protests, then Mushy will have won his gamble. (I personally think, no more than ten thousand will take to the streets, if that. Even a hundred thousand protesters, for that matter, will be no more than a spit in the wind.)
2) Also keep an eye on the stock market. If the KSE Index shoots up this week, or at least refuses to drop significantly, or, if it drops a bit and recovers sharply, that will be a vote of confidence from the capitalists and Mushy will go home free.
The chattering classes will continue to bitch and moan, the working classes will continue to toil away so they can bring home two square meals a day, trade and commerce will go on as usual and the army will continue to obey his orders, albeit reluctantly and ever more resentfully. Life will go on… very little will change.
There is wide spread disaffection and resentment in the military all the way from the second tear flag officers down to the junior most officers. (Opinions of the rank and file soldiers, of course, don't count.) Only the very upper echelon of the flag officers (three star generals and above) are solidly with him because their interests are wedded to his. But the set up of the armed forces being what it is, even second tear generals (most of whom are unhappy) cannot do much except to obey orders.
The only two ways the present set up can change is if (1) an assassin's bullet were to get to Mushy. Or if (2) massive street protests spontaneously errupt in Karachi and Lahore to the extent that riot police gets overwhelmed and he has to call in the military to quell the riots and the situation turns into a blood bath.
THAT will do it. If such a thing were to happen, only under those circumstances will the psychological environment change within the military to where Musharraf could be thrown out.
Unless Brutus, Cassius, Cato, Metullus and the whole gang don't act in unison they will not get Caesar.
...SR
1) Over the next week or two if at least a million people don’t take to the streets in wide spread protests, then Mushy will have won his gamble. (I personally think, no more than ten thousand will take to the streets, if that. Even a hundred thousand protesters, for that matter, will be no more than a spit in the wind.)
2) Also keep an eye on the stock market. If the KSE Index shoots up this week, or at least refuses to drop significantly, or, if it drops a bit and recovers sharply, that will be a vote of confidence from the capitalists and Mushy will go home free.
The chattering classes will continue to bitch and moan, the working classes will continue to toil away so they can bring home two square meals a day, trade and commerce will go on as usual and the army will continue to obey his orders, albeit reluctantly and ever more resentfully. Life will go on… very little will change.
There is wide spread disaffection and resentment in the military all the way from the second tear flag officers down to the junior most officers. (Opinions of the rank and file soldiers, of course, don't count.) Only the very upper echelon of the flag officers (three star generals and above) are solidly with him because their interests are wedded to his. But the set up of the armed forces being what it is, even second tear generals (most of whom are unhappy) cannot do much except to obey orders.
The only two ways the present set up can change is if (1) an assassin's bullet were to get to Mushy. Or if (2) massive street protests spontaneously errupt in Karachi and Lahore to the extent that riot police gets overwhelmed and he has to call in the military to quell the riots and the situation turns into a blood bath.
THAT will do it. If such a thing were to happen, only under those circumstances will the psychological environment change within the military to where Musharraf could be thrown out.
Unless Brutus, Cassius, Cato, Metullus and the whole gang don't act in unison they will not get Caesar.
...SR
#170 Posted by Skeptical on November 4, 2007 1:10:11 pm
Re: # 169
I fully agree, I do not think people will come out-they will complain or post on chowk just like all of us but wont come out. Another important point is that for collective action you need to be organized which we are not. Politicall only PPP and MQ have the street power and they are with him.
The biggest "achivement" of our politics is the level of depoliticalization of all of us.
I fully agree, I do not think people will come out-they will complain or post on chowk just like all of us but wont come out. Another important point is that for collective action you need to be organized which we are not. Politicall only PPP and MQ have the street power and they are with him.
The biggest "achivement" of our politics is the level of depoliticalization of all of us.
#171 Posted by DrDr on November 4, 2007 3:32:08 pm
#168 funny! that shud describe many here who supported Mush until recently when they discovered the virtues of democracy
#172 Posted by Ms.Imran on November 4, 2007 3:39:01 pm
I wonder if Musharraf has read "Animal Farm".This whole scenario is so like "Animal Farm Revisited".Worse perhaps.Compared to him the Pig Napoleon seems like a pretty decent chap.At least he didn't pretend to don the immaculate garb of sincerety all by himself; he used squealer for that.Our dearest Chief, on the other hand, is all in one!(i wonder if we will be forced to call him His Highness in the near future; he is not beyond that either.)
#173 Posted by Ms.Imran on November 4, 2007 3:47:20 pm
Re: # 165
Talk about Deja Vu.His speech reminded me of Bush's speech on "Axis of Evil".It also reminded me of Will Farrel's parody of it.According to Musharraf's standards,if you even think he is bad then u must be evil.so much for his much flaunted freedom of expression in Pakistan!
Talk about Deja Vu.His speech reminded me of Bush's speech on "Axis of Evil".It also reminded me of Will Farrel's parody of it.According to Musharraf's standards,if you even think he is bad then u must be evil.so much for his much flaunted freedom of expression in Pakistan!
#174 Posted by bubba on November 4, 2007 4:49:53 pm
Re: # 169 Posted by SR on November 4, 2007 1:03:29 pm
[...that will be a vote of confidence from the capitalists and Mushy will go home free.]
And if the capital flow from Washington is reduced, then General Kiyani (ex-ISI chief) will take control of the country, and Mush will be sent packing to Boston, to be with his son Bilal. Just like Russia, an ex-spy will lead Pakistan. US is preparing for an attack on Iran, which is a bigger headache to the US than these Pakistanis.
[...that will be a vote of confidence from the capitalists and Mushy will go home free.]
And if the capital flow from Washington is reduced, then General Kiyani (ex-ISI chief) will take control of the country, and Mush will be sent packing to Boston, to be with his son Bilal. Just like Russia, an ex-spy will lead Pakistan. US is preparing for an attack on Iran, which is a bigger headache to the US than these Pakistanis.
#175 Posted by Zyxius on November 4, 2007 9:58:28 pm
SR....#168....great stuff! I have one for you too:
Mushy to Bibi: Excuse me Madam, but will you sleep with me for a million pounds?
Bibi: A million pounds?!! Why of course I would!
Mushy: Well, how about 2 pounds?
Bibi: 2 Pounds?!! What do you think I am?
Mushy: I think we've already established that but now we're just haggling about the price.
Mushy to Bibi: Excuse me Madam, but will you sleep with me for a million pounds?
Bibi: A million pounds?!! Why of course I would!
Mushy: Well, how about 2 pounds?
Bibi: 2 Pounds?!! What do you think I am?
Mushy: I think we've already established that but now we're just haggling about the price.
#176 Posted by masadi on November 5, 2007 3:11:21 am
For the past 24 hours the miserable Chowk staff had banned me yet once again, DELETED MY COMMENTARY ON THE EMERGENCY AND wont let me post anything regarding the emergency anymore. Like Musharraf has blacked out the tv channels, they have blacked out Masadi. Very unfortunate that these friends of dictators- the one who is going to meet his end soon via the Americans and their occupation force, are acting in the anti-people, immoral fashion.
The ban was because I had protested against Kulharee's call for widescale slaughter in Swat under the guise of "civilization", I had told him that anyone who is married to a 600lbs dumbo cannot talk of "civilization"- and for this they banned me and let Kulharee and his insults and call for slaughter go scot free..
The ban was because I had protested against Kulharee's call for widescale slaughter in Swat under the guise of "civilization", I had told him that anyone who is married to a 600lbs dumbo cannot talk of "civilization"- and for this they banned me and let Kulharee and his insults and call for slaughter go scot free..
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