Martial Law Not Emergency

Re: # 14,

But why have a professional, careerist army at all especially when it is anti-people, anti-human and above all anti-constitution, liable to be punished under Article 6 thereof.

An army, as such, must have a discipline, no doubt, but what is discipline.

In this connection I relate a true story narrated by a Major-general of the Pak army who happened to visit China during Mao's time. He said,

" When I reached China there was only one army man to receive me. He lifted my two bags and started walking with me. On introduction I was surprised to know that he was a Lt. General in the peoples Army (At that time army ranks were not allowed to be shown). He took me to a mess where I saw all ranks of soldiers having their meals. I asked my host do they not have separate messes for the officers to maintain discipline. He asked me what I meant by discipline if it is not giving of orders and obeying orders of the supperiors. It was, he continued, the order of our Chairman Mao (In our case the Quaide Aazam, the PM and the Constitution) , who required us not to keep ourselves aloof from the soldiers that we are obeying and having a combined mess with the soldiers however we may dislike it."

Re: # 14,

But why have a professional, careerist army at all especially when it is anti-people, anti-human and above all anti-constitution, liable to be punished under Article 6 thereof.

An army, as such, must have a discipline, no doubt, but what is discipline.

In this connection I relate a true story narrated by a Major-general of the Pak army who happened to visit China during Mao's time. He said,

" When I reached China there was only one army man to receive me. He lifted my two bags and started walking with me. On introduction I was surprised to know that he was a Lt. General in the peoples Army (At that time army ranks were not allowed to be shown). He took me to a mess where I saw all ranks of soldiers having their meals. I asked my host do they not have separate messes for the officers to maintain discipline. He asked me what I meant by discipline if it is not giving of orders and obeying orders of the supperiors. It was, he continued, the order of our Chairman Mao (In our case the Quaide Aazam, the PM and the Constitution) , who required us not to keep ourselves aloof from the soldiers that we are obeying."

Yaar Sanaullah,

Just consider this. What if in army, everyone is entitled to judge the orders of superiors before acting upon it. No army runs in this way. You can run political parties in this way but never armies...

You are right Khalid bhaee in a sense but tell me one thing isn’t it the Jawans and low cadre officers who follow the instructions of corrupt generals in overthrowing public institutions from legitimate offices. A soldier willing to sacrifice his life for country is doing great service but still is there anything unusual in it? Isn’t it the prime function of any army? What is unusual is the act of using his weapons against his own countrymen … a very shameful example.

There is an untold story of a nation whose two Prime Ministers were murdered; one exiled twice, a national hero humiliated, a chief justice thrown out from office twice.

If it were just one instance I wouldn’t be so harsh but looking at the history of Pak army I doubt if there is any reason for not being so.

wasalam

Re: # 7

wd40xps

What a sweeping statement you made like a self-conceited 'matarua-in-wardi':

"Reading the full text of Musharraf's address to the nation, one cannot help but sympathise with the president and give full support to him from saving Pakistan from its self destruction."

The nation - if there is any for Mush who is concerned only with the 'land of the pakies' - has been hearing too much of his harangues for 8 long years. What is the reality on the ground today? The people who had strived and sacrificed for the establishment of Pakistan had wanted it to be a sanctuary for the minorities, especially, the Muslims of India, where they could exercise their free will as an independent nation. But what has Mush done? He has deprived them even of their basic human rights now. This is sheer rape of the nation and its will enshrined in its Constitution which is the worst kind of terrorism. And above all, who is responsible for the conditions leading to emergency and who is being punished for that?

Re: # 10
Mr Bhatti I must say both your article and posts are extremely convincing and very well articulated. Well done!!!

Re: # 7

Dear wd40xp,

Though I feel quite at lost addressing you as wd40xp in the absence of proper name as in this way I seem to be talking to some robot or some under development software version, but as they say, such are the ways and norms of cyberworld, so I am no one to complain and have to live with it.

Now coming to the point. Well; Mr. or Ms. wd40xp, I can do nothing but to show sympathy for you and try to show the true picture, as more than this is neither warranted nor is my duty. Even the prophets were not made accountable if their intended audience did not listened to them as their job ended after telling them right or wrong.

The only thing that I would like you to do is to judge the resolve and aspirations of Pakistani nation in the proper context. Continuous interference of the establishment has not only destroyed the institutions (including democracy), but have made the ordinary person insensitive to the extent of almost indifference. But remember that we are the sons of same people who from one plateform or another fought for independence from British Raj, fought and spilled blood against rowlatte act, struggled against one of the super power for the rights of freedom, speech, expression and self rule. So, to say that in the greater public good and by watching broader picture, we should accept Mushy's rule which is nothing but rule of establshment then all of our freedom struggle should be flushed down the drain, and we should change our history books accordingly. We should then delete names of founding fathers of india & pakistan from our books and teach our children that these were the misguided souls who knew nothing and did not know how to see the big picture, and glorify ayub khan, Zia and musharraf as the champions of virtues. As always choice is yours, which by the way has been suspended by the declaration of emergency......

Gunahgaar Musharraf in his oozr-e gunah speech almost stuttered to say that Musharraf comes first which he later on corrected to Pakistan, Pakistan comes first.

Well done dear Khalid!

I think the phenomenon of Parvezism can all be symbolised in the term 'Mataruaism'.

What a coincidence! Three Pavezes have come together to form a 'Trio of Power' in Pakistan.

Incidentally,'Parvez' is the name of an anti-prophet ruler of Iran who is considered to be guilty of blasphemy like Salman Rushdi by the Mullah.

I had a peon by this name. One day when I called him by this name he retorted, "Sir, don't call me by this bloody name as I have changed my name to 'Mehboob'". I asked him why he did so. He said,"The Imam of our mosque told me that 'Parvez' was the name of an enemy of the Prophet and as such to be called by this name is sheer blasphemy".

What our Chowky Ulema say in this respect?

Reading the full text of Musharraf's address to the nation, one cannot help but sympathise with the president and give full support to him from saving Pakistan from its self destruction.

He may have violated the constitution. So what? Where is the greater good under the present circumstances? The opposition fuels fire for their own selfish gains.

The justice department is not at fault if it declares Musharraf's election unconstitutional. We must raise our hats to the Supreme Court of Pakistan. At the same time the president is not at fault to declare the state of emergency to keep the crisis under control.

One must under the present circumstances look at the broader picture for the good of the country. What Musharraf cannot do as a president with the joint responsibility of the chief of the armed forces, that any of your past elected prime ministers or the ones vying for this job can do? Has he not brought Pakistan to prosperity? Has he not elevated Pakistan to a near superpower? What are the accomplishments of your previous prime ministers and presidents? Do they not pale in comparison to what Musharraf has done for Pakistan?

So what if he continues to be the president under the current deteriorating state of affairs? Can the opposition not wait for few more months/years to grab power? What plans do they have to bring peace and prosperity to Pakistan? I am sure Musharraf will listen to them.

People of Pakistan, wake up. And remember since 1947 when you got your independence, for how many years you had real democracy in Pakistan. You have to learn to be democratic to enjoy democracy.

Laton k bhoot baton se nahih maantay.

What Musharraf did was totally right under the present circumstances. Have patience. He does not care to give up his presidency. He does care for you and your nation.

Is there any body more qualified than him to lead you under these difficult times of unrest and terrorism? Bear with him. Look at your history since your independence, and learn something from it. Don't be a lakir k fakir in interpreting the the legality of his position. See what's good for your country.

President Musharraf, my warmest regards to you. And may Allah help you in preserving peace and sanity in Pakistan, even though you may intend to violate constitution, temporarily.

May Allah bless you!

Thank you for this insightful analysis, Bhatti sahib. Your writing puts the Emergency, with all its nefarious motives and implications, into proper perspective; from which one is able to both judge the gravity of the situation as well as feel an appropriate amount of indignation.

Thanks once again, for your post#2 as well as your piece.

Insightful analysis. As they say, 'With friends like these, who needs enemies?'

And, yes, regarding the life and expectations of the ordinary soldier, I agree that the other side of the picture should be brought out as well. Perhaps, as a follow-up to this article?

#2

yaar Bhai Sanaullah,

I was not very happy using the title of Sultanat-e-Pakistan and I wrote in in anger and dejection. Otherwise, apart from small corrupt officer class, army comprise of great men. The Jawans of Pakistan army live their life on meagre pay, smoke embassy filter and are ready to sacrifice his life for the country. In the return, they only expect (mind you expect and not demand) that they should not be put in places which is not the place for reguar army. They just expect to be deployed on borders in case enemy attacks, not in places where they don't even know who the enemy is; not in places where their simple mind with hardly any education beyong primary and middle class just cannot comprehend the reason of using their arms as the people on whome they are asked to attack seem to be just like themselves. In short, they just want their superiors to understand that they should not be used for which they are not trained for.

The story of army jawans an officers also needs to be told, who are stuck in this bullshit like all civilian society due to the selfishness of few.

Congratulations

Mr President, I just wanna extend my heartfelt congratulations to you for conquering Pakistan yet again with the help of Pak Army.
With your earnest efforts and military support we will achieved what we Indians have pathetically failed to accomplish so far.
Remember, our and yours ultimate goal should be total dismemberment of Pakistan. We are extremely grateful to you for doing what we had assumed impossible.
Please ensure that each and every institution of Pakistan is corrupted, destroyed and gutted to ashes before leaving. A friend like you is hard to find. Crush Pakistan and bloody Pakis. Teach them a lesson they should never forget in life. Show them the power of people, over and over again as you have already thankfully doing.
Mr President, corrupt the very soul of the nation so thoroughly that they lose the last rationale to survive as a nation state. Sir, please keep on distorting the vision of so-called Pakistan; continue destroying its identity beyond recognition. How? Exactly as you have been doing ever since. You
Gravest treachery should be presented as patriotism. Long Live Patriots aka Afgans et al.
Your personal interests, your private ambitions are supreme national interests. Period. Crush all those fool heads who dare to protest as you did in Karachi- twice.
Kindly take this emergency theatre as a God-sent gift to you for completing the project bestowed upon you 8 years back. You kill its soul; we will take it out physically. Together we will wipe the bloody Pakis out from the face of earth.
I am sure that India will confer the highest civil and military awards on your departure (shortly).

Rajesh Kumar Sandhu

Lets talk about Afwaj e Pakistan.

The most efficient army of the world because they follow

Their Oath - To plunder the very country they are supposed to defend.
Their History- Shedding blood for the British empire in every corner of the world
Their Legacy - From Ayub Khan to our great Commando the legacy is to sell the national interest at the cheapest price
Their Belief – All is fair in war (of interest) and love (of power)
Their Training – those bloody civilians know nothing
Their Motto – Crush the filthy insects under military boots

So I strongly agree with Khalid sb in calling Pakistan the “Sultanat -e- Pakistan barayay Imarat-e-Afwaj-e-Pakistan”.

Lets do it and have a nice concience free slumber like the most respected justice Muneer.

A plan of action beyond a usual statement of condemnation

Friends of South Asia (www.friendsofsouthasia.org) is meeting on Sunday, November 4, at 6 pm at Newark City library for its Eid-Diwali program and to brainstorm on devising a strategy to deal with the present political crisis in Pakistan. Here is the first draft of a plan of action FOSA is working on and would like to discuss in the meeting.

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With the imposition of Emergency on November 3 General Pervez Musharraf has plunged Pakistan into terrible uncertainty. Whereas General Pervez Musharraf says he took the precarious step to save Pakistan, no one doubts the only thing Musharraf is interested in saving is his own grip on power.

We condemn Pervez Musharraf’s latest authoritarian decree and want Pakistanis and well-wishers of Pakistan to build pressure on him to take back the emergency measures. But having witnessed Pervez Musharraf’s propensity to sacrifice anything for his own personal gain we doubt if Musharraf under any cogent force would backtrack.

Considering Pakistanis desire for democracy, the recent struggle for the restoration of a Chief Justice illegally removed by the dictator, the ongoing pro-civil society debates in the erstwhile independent Pakistani media, and the pro-democracy sentiments within the Pakistan Army we wish to humbly suggest a shorter path towards restoring order in Pakistan.

In order to facilitate removal of Pervez Musharraf and to avoid further chaos in the country by keeping its institutions intact we urge Pakistanis in general and Pakistan’s political parties in particular to quickly form an interim government. The interim government and events related to its enactment should have the following features:

1. The interim government should be headed by an interim president who would hold free and fair general elections in the shortest span of time.
2. To ensure working of an independent judiciary all Supreme Court judges deposed on November 3 by Pervez Musharraf should be restored to their positions.
3. Pakistan Army should stop taking orders from Pervez Musharraf and current Vice Chief of Army Staff, General Kayani should immediately take charge of the forces. General Kayani should work under the interim president.
4. All political workers and members of legal fraternity arrested in the wake of emergency should be released.
5. All bureaucratic institutions with their current officers should keep functioning under the interim president.

We urge Pakistani political parties to quickly consent to an interim president. One choice obvious to many would be Retired Chief Justice Wajihuddin Ahmed who as a public servant not only had a spotless career, but who gained considerable public support while recently running for President against Pervez Musharraf

Till an interim government through the wishes of Pakistanis and Pakistan’s political parties takes command we ask all citizens to commence an indefinite strike starting from Monday, November 5.