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Sources said that militants had brought 213 soldiers to Tiarza Khula, a remote area in South Waziristan, and handed them over to tribal elders. The military authorities brought the 25 militants in two helicopters to the brigade headquarters in Zari Noor colony near Wana. They were later taken to Tiarza Khula for the swap.

The sources said that seven militants had been released from the central jail in Dera Ismail Khan and 18 had been brought from Islamabad.

Zulfiqar Mehsud, spokesman for Baitullah Mehsud, and his deputy Fakher Alam Mehsud handed over the soldiers to a jirga headed by former MNA Maulvi Mirajuddin.

Ranjit 71,

The jihadi general taking over is teh prelude to the iraquisation of pakistan. The pak troops will be bombed out, the jihadis and the mqm will fight it out, and who ever survives will need to be finished off by the second wave of military operation. That is what is happening in iraq, the sunnis are almost finished, then subdue the shia and there will be peace.

Like every muslim country, where the brothers have routinely killed each other to remain in power, pakistanis also have to follow the islamic tradition, the blood bath has not taken place in pakistan yet, the 1947 ones were only the kafir blood and that does not quench the laws of 7th century tribals

#69 by zeemax

LoL ... at the same time he was recording this speech, his 450+ military men held captive were being released unharmed by Baitullah Mehsud and Fazlullalh after his 'Jirga' plea.

But wasn't it in exchange for the 65-odd militants released by the Paki Army?

I know Zee. My point is that he acts like a sher to civilians and like a billi to Taliban.

VRV and jayp,

Musharraf is the best bet for US and India. Benazir will be a weak PM and will compromise with the hardliners even more in order to survive. Nawaz Sharif is an out and out jihadi supporter. That haraami still talks about Kashmir even though he is sitting in exile in Saudi Arabia.

All said and done, Musharraf cooled down Kashmir completely. He is also trying to wrest back the frontier from the Taliban. If he fails and we see a jihadi general in charge of Islamabad, then we are all doomed.

65 (correction)

national TV in Pakistan

#65 Posted by VRV,

Negotiates with hardboiled terrorists but jails the democratic dissenters in Punjab (the heart of Pakistan).

LoL ... at the same time he was recording this speech, his 450+ military men held captive were being released unharmed by Baitullah Mehsud and Fazlullalh after his 'Jirga' plea.

Pls note Ranjit.

People are predicting major calamity for pakistan due to the emergency. Nothing is going to happen, the lawyer mobs will vanish shortly, and not many PPP people will want to come out seeing what happened in karachi.

Mushy will strike deal with the tribals to save the troops. Americans will be pondering what to do. The middle class of pakistan will become poorer, teh tribals will flourish.

One year will go quickly, there will be some elections and it will be the stability as usual. There will be occassional missiles from the yanks...the slow decline of pakistan into a fragmented jihadic failed state will continue.

One thing is definite, the jihadis will attain increased power, having decisively defeated the pak army.

Re:zee#64

Zee, the jihadi tactic is very simple. They pretend to be disorganized as if they are part of the civilian population, so no rules apply to them. They can behead people or kill anyone in the way. Yet they expect their adversaries to follow the rules of a normal society and follow legal proceedings. Its no surprise that whenever there is an attack on the jihadis, they cry out about civilian deaths, since basically they pretend to be civilians.

The adversary i.e. US/pak/indian/israeli/afghan armies have wisened up to this tactic. Therefore, they are hitting back with even greater force and have dropped all pretenses about legal proceedigs. Basically they just want to kill jihadis, as many as possible and in as much brutal manner as possible without asking any questions. India did it in Kashmir, Israel did it with Palestinians, US did it in Afghanistan/Iraq and now Pakistan is doing it in FATA/PATA. Since it has worked elsewhere, it will work in Pakistan too. Thats exactly what Musharraf is doing too. If he doesnt, he will be kicked out by the US and the next US proxy will proceed with the plan.

In the case of pakistan every policy that introduced jihadic concepts have been of disastrous consequence.

Pka army was a professional army based on teh british lines, no regard for religion. Then they changed it to a jihadic army, with the motto jihad in the name of God. Clear indication of thsi change was in teh Kragill where the the dozen indians captured at first were tortured, killed and mutilated, the kind pakistanis see in waziristan now.

Now that the pak army is a jihadic army, naturally teh troops are asking why teh muslims are being killed.

They are surrendering rather than fighting, they are leaving in droves and insubordination is on the rise. This well understood by Mushy, he has let go of teh arrested guys in Swat, and the 200 troops are coming back.

Pakistan can no longer fight the jihadis, it will be left for the nato do the job. Pak army has been defeated because of its jihadic outlook.

Musharraf comes on TV and claims that the country is on the verge of collapse/disintegration forgetting fully that was he who brought it upon Pakistan after presiding over it for 8 years, even if we ignore that the stance is unbecoming of a head of state and de jure head of govt (2in1).

In a bizarre fashion addresses the ppl of US while appearing nation TV in Pakistan - and quotes Abraham Lincoln - ignoring that he's digging his grave deeper.

Seem to prevent the suicide of the country and prefers to murder her himself.

Negotiates with hardboiled terrorists but jails the democratic dissenters in Punjab (the heart of Pakistan).

In sum, he's the proverbial dhobi ka kutta, 'na ghar ka na ghat ka' (pl read it as 'na Pakistan ka na Amrika ka').

#63 Posted by Ranjit,

I see. So you want kangaroo courts and lynch mobs in place of judiciary. That's fine with the Jihadis. After all they just have to say 'Allah-o-Akbar' before beheading, while the new CJ will say 'Musharraf-o-Akbar' before doing the same.

Good going !

Re:zeemax#62
"CJ has replied this charge in the most classic manner by stating "It is not possible for the Supreme Court to convict people without sufficient evidence"."

Zee, legal niceties are meaningless in a war. What is happening in Pakistan is an all out war between jihadis and the US via its proxies (pak army). In this war, there are no rules. You blast suicide bombs and behead people, we fire missiles into your homes and mosques to reduce you to charcoal and we arrest you and keep in jail forever. Its a fight to the finish with no mercy for either side. You dont give mercy, so dont expect any back.

Thats the way it is. The CJ tried to interfere in this death game and wanted to shackle the hands of one side. It couldnt be tolerated and he had to be booted out.

#56 Posted by Ranjit,

That chief justice guy was an even bigger lunatic who returned the Lal Masjid to the taliban and started freeing all the arrested extremists.

CJ has replied this charge in the most classic manner by stating "It is not possible for the Supreme Court to convict people without sufficient evidence".

Are you going to dispute that?

Vaisey, Shortcut Aziz is probably crapping his pants right now. Being a diplomatic private banker used to making friends only, not enemies, and being able to refuse in the politest manner without offending, only frustrating, he is probably crapping his pants that he's joined hands with the toughest dude in Pakistan right now and he's probably never even raised his voice for fear of getting bitch slapped by someone tougher than him (almost everybody). Wonder what pills he's using to sleep at night.

BTW, I still think these two guys are the best we have.

Pakistan .... He He He He....!!