unflinching idealism ... since 1997 archivessitemapabouthelpfeedback
ideas, identities and interactions
  • Home
  • InFocus
  • Themes
  • Columns
  • Articles
  • Fiction
  • iLogs
  • Gallery
  • Unplugged
  • Writers
  • Interactors
  • Tags
Sign in | Join Chowk
web chowk
  • Article
  • Interact
  • read writer comments
  • add to favorites
  • get rss feeds
  • print
  • email this link

Political Quandary in Pakistan

Mohammad Gill November 8, 2007

Latest comments   flat   threaded   latest   oldest   all
listing 8-24   1 2 3 4 5 6

#9 Posted by hamidm2 on November 9, 2007 4:19:00 pm


.......... i guess you guys also think that professional wrestling is a sport !

....... c'mon guys, get real and stop wringing your hands over this so-called "emergency" ..... take a lesson from bobby the brain heenan - it is just entertainment (or lufangebazi, as mr ahmedmadani would call it ) ....... i think we should get the wwf to supervise the 'elections' in pakistan .......
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#10 Posted by hamidm2 on November 9, 2007 4:22:29 pm
BEAKING NEWS! ... Bobby the Brain Heenan appointed as musharraf's Chief Advisor
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#11 Posted by category5 on November 9, 2007 4:22:49 pm
"Don't you think such a judiciary would have applied proper checks and balances in the smooth running of democracy....."

Bhatti sahib,

That is funny. Yes the judiciary did put in place the checks and balances during the BB and NS era :D

That's why BB and NS are locked up for 25 years each!
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#12 Posted by tahmed32 on November 9, 2007 4:43:10 pm
#11 brilliant argument: they didnt have perfect checks and balances before, so in future there should be no checks and balances at all.

I can understand why geniuses like you want to ruled by some other man - you couldnt think your way out of an open door.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#13 Posted by bubba on November 9, 2007 4:46:25 pm
Me think that this Pakistan emergency is iran proxy war with SA, and the US is still confused about the whole thing. NWFP kills shia military personnel but lets the sunnis military personnel go free. More to come between shia sunni war on the streets of Pakistan, if SA does not tell this confused general to take a hike.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#14 Posted by VRV on November 9, 2007 4:53:31 pm
Dr. Gill wrote well but why so many articles as if Chowk is a daily newspaper? Weekly or bi-weekly is bearbale but no daily.

They published more than 10 articles since the Emergency was declared in Pakistan. It's pathetic that some good articles are gone to history in a matter of 2-3 days. Some had less than 100 hits?!?!

Coming to the topic, there are 3 disticnt grops in Pakistan that are pulling the country in three different directions with an invisible fourth group i.e the US is pulling Pakistan in its own direction. The pseudo-democrats (BB, NS types; Imran Khan is joker in the pack, btw), Musharraf and the Termites i.e Taliban. While Temrites are eating up the country from north-west and north, Mush is digging his heels deep in the (false?) hope of getting blind US support, which he had it till now.

When Talibs are @ the door-step of Pakistan's capital the real contingent plans of CIA become known (safeguarding the nuclear assets in Pakistan).

Pseudo-democrats want elections at any cost in the hope that ppl wud elect them per force. Since Talibs dont care for anything other than Sharia, the Mushites and pseudo-democrats shud join hands to form a National Government to stem the tide of Talibans into the plains of Pakistan. Bickering is not going to help the country.

reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#15 Posted by bjkumar on November 9, 2007 4:56:40 pm

Freethinker,

Jinnah had a lot of words – but he had no dreams! Mohamed Ali Jinnah was not into dreaming – he was into winning his cases, come what may! This talk about losing a religious label should be tagged as one of the most dishonest of talks ever let loose on humanity – because it was uttered over the dead bodies of millions of innocent human beings – whose deaths resulted from the direct deeds of that man, who never betrayed the slightest degree of compunction for his role!

Creating Pakistan on such a foundation of hatred for the “other”was little different from taking a lot of toxic dump, burying it underneath and covering it up with dirt and planting a garden! Yes, a garden!

True, one can write many poems praising the beauty of the garden but only the morons of the highest order would expect the fruits of such a garden, whose roots derive sustenance from that toxic dump, to be less than deadly!

In Pakistan today, the khakis take by force what they want – just like every other Pakistani ruler takes by force what he or she wants – like the Mushy did, like the Nawaj did, like the BeeB did, like the Zia did, like all those khaki Khans did, like all their predecessors did – they all took by force what they wanted!

Because they all did just like the Jinnah took by force what he wanted!

reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#16 Posted by category5 on November 9, 2007 5:06:22 pm
chaccha jee #12,


I want to be the ruler you see, not be ruled. "Government by the people"? hmm? Rings a bell? mayhaps?

So the BB musharraf alliance is the same old same, stinks.



reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#17 Posted by hamidm2 on November 9, 2007 5:13:39 pm
Re: # 15

bj mian,

.............. uh????????
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#18 Posted by bjkumar on November 9, 2007 5:20:40 pm
#17 Hamidm2 sahib

Look, I admit I have not read Dr. Gill's piece yet (but I intend to). It is just the opening lines from the Jinnah that got my goat up, going, running around, prancing, and doing all kinds of mad acrobatics!

My advice to Dr. Gill is - sir, if you want to deal with your subject matter in an honest way, kindly do not start with dishonest quotes! Perhaps in Pakistan, every piece must start with a praise of the Jinnah like in Canada they sing "God save the queen!"

But sometimes, it is not a good idea to be sheepishly subservient to past precedence!
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#19 Posted by VRV on November 9, 2007 5:27:15 pm
BJ,

Did u see the Scandinavian peninsula? It's one unit but torn into two nations i.e Noorwy & Sweden. I dont think the ppl in the peninsula are any different - racially, culturally - in Norway and Sweden. We have a lesson to learn from them.

Some Indians are too sentimental abt Pakistan. You are one of them. :(

reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#20 Posted by ahmedmadani on November 9, 2007 6:01:03 pm
Re: # 9 Mr. H with best respects to you. Some body said I am fool as I said MQM mental superiority over Punjabis and sindhis... etc. But man said Pathans are best in that dept.
I do not understand.
Most intelligent Pathan Big Khan was given favor by general by house arrest and elevated him . Now General wants to discredit and make fool of him like his Mughal forefather. He sets a trap and Big Khan walks in to it. Police watch him going back doors in car from his "house Prison". The police call general what to do, general replies give him chance to make a fool of him.
Now Big Khan is out like a big tiger from Zoo. Freedom is problem as Big Khan is in search of some mission. No mission nothing in sight like zoo tiger can not catch anything wants to go back to zoo cage and want feast of chopped livers. He comes back and hopes for arrest and police ask him to go home. Now out of respect as he defeated India cricket had given chance to enhance his image
and man blows up given chance. He never understood HOUSE ARREST is previlage not RIGHT as he is demanding. Now he is most intelligent pathan.
Once Romair said is right Pathan is state of mind.
Will you concede President has really humilated Big Khan, NS and has made Laughing stock of Mrs Bhutto so shown Mughal brain superiority over Punjabi, sindhi expms and big Pathan ?
Now BB ns may be big democrat and both religious and big Khan womens right emancipator but we need some body who will not be deceived by outsiders, in that case by default even usa and China and India have supported brain over bran from heartlands of Pakistan a simple humble Mohajir from nonpompous Karachi.
I was and most will happy to hear YLH is all right, was bit worried by rough treatment to lawyers.
I guess you and your buddies are having fun of life sittimg there with liquid refreshmnts and enjoying uncomforts of lawyers and BB and NS and best of Big Khan Predicment. ( It is said pathan always do things and then try to understand what was done)_.
I think never thought all so such Lafangebazi by so many people in such short time.
Hope not disturbing your buddies and mind altering and relaxing liquid refreshment sessions.
Respectfully submitted
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#21 Posted by ahmedmadani on November 9, 2007 6:06:00 pm
Re: # 10
I did not see in morning newspapers, seems some new advisor ?
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#22 Posted by arjun8 on November 9, 2007 6:41:47 pm
you know you've hit rock bottom when even lobbyists think you're a lost cause..remember..these are the people who will sell the benefits of smoking..


Share this story! del.icio.us digg Reddit Furl Fark TailRank Ma.gnolia NewsVine Simpy Spurl

Pakistan embassy tries to put good face on cancelled lobbying contract

By Khalid Hasan

WASHINGTON: In an effort to put a good face on the cancellation by Cassidy & Associates of a $1.2 million lobbying contract because of Musharraf’s government being ‘unsellable’ and the situation in Pakistan, the Pakistan embassy has stated that the contract was in a “trial” stage cancelled by mutual agreement.
However, the facts are otherwise. Cassidy acted honourably by saying that it was no longer in a position to deliver on the contract in an effective manner and hence it was pulling out.
Here is the text of the Pakistan embassy press release issued on Friday, “Responding to questions related to the withdrawal of Cassidy & Associates from the contract, the Embassy spokesman said that the contract for one year was still at the trial phase when during the course of the first month of association, both the Embassy of Pakistan and Cassidy & Associates, came to the conclusion that the latter could not effectively implement the contract as lobbyist. As a result, Cassidy & Associates asked for withdrawal from the contract that the Embassy has accepted, the spokesman added.”

Home | National
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#23 Posted by ShoreSahib on November 9, 2007 10:49:54 pm
To the Author,

I am so glad that people like you and Nadeem Paracha exist.

I am so sick of these champions of Pakistani Rights...the so called Judiciary of Pakistan and the lawyers constantly screaming murder at President Musharraf and the army....

Yes, Military rule is not the greatest thing....but I would take Musharraff over Mohtarma and Caliph Nawaz Sharif any day......

Both Mohtarma and Mr. Shariff should be barred from taking part in Pakistani elections...

Yes, we are at a loss as a People....

Yes, we are a failed state.....

and if not Musharraf, then whom?

Could it be someone who is a political moderate.....An enlightened being who would do away with the ills plaguing Pakistani society....

perhaps a prayer at this time,

"O Allah, You do not change the condition of a people who do not change themselves, but still, I beseech thee so that you may cause a great leader to rise up from within the ranks of our ailing society in great pain."

"O Allah, Create compassion within us as a nation"

"O Allah, Let us fight towards justice for the weak, the poor, and the downtrodden"

"O Allah, Let us be guided by your infinite wisdom and have mercy on our nation and our people".

"O Allah, We ask you to heal our spirits, and mend our psychological wounds, and we ask your forgiveness for our transgressions against each other".

"O, Allah! In your holy name we beg for your mercy. Grant us Peace everlasting".
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#24 Posted by jayp on November 9, 2007 10:53:19 pm
Something more odd happened just a day after the trashing of the Constitution: the hush-hush release of over 20 men on Nov 4 accused of planning suicide bombings, and their handing over to the militant commander, Baitullah Mehsud, in return for the release of over 200 captured army personnel. Included in this number was Sohail Zeb, Mehsud’s cousin, caught allegedly with a suicide jacket on. How would this help the fight against terrorism?

The above is from Ayaz Amir in dawn of today.

This is a clear indication that the emergency is aimed at saving the pak military from the jihadis.

Now the jihadis have a free hand in pakistan and more are being sent to kashmir as the pak army cannot deliver shehdad to their own.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
listing 8-24   1 2 3 4 5 6

Interact Index

    #85 teshah
    #84 MantoLives
    #83 wileythecoyote
    #82 Salim_Chauhan
    #81 krashid1961
    #80 masadi
    #79 laddu
    #78 MateenMM
    #77 majumdar
    #76 masadi
    #75 masadi
    #74 masadi
    #73 zeemax
    #72 ShoreSahib
    #71 viqarm
    #70 Humsab
    #69 ShoreSahib
    #68 Ras
    #67 hamidm2
    #66 ShoreSahib
    #65 zeemax
    #64 ShoreSahib
    #63 zeemax
    #62 zeemax
    #61 arjun8
    #60 ShoreSahib
    #59 hamidm2
    #58 arjun8
    #57 hamidm2
    #56 mohar11
    #55 zeemax
    #54 ShoreSahib
    #53 zeemax
    #52 freethinker
    #51 kaptain
    #50 kaptain
    #49 ShoreSahib
    #48 arjun8
    #47 ShoreSahib
    #46 blithe
    #45 hamidm2
    #44 Skeptical
    #43 zeemax
    #42 Zyxius
    #41 Zyxius
    #40 Zyxius
    #39 zeemax
    #38 nasah
    #37 rf786
    #36 zeemax
    #35 jayp
    #34 jayp
    #33 tangobit
    #32 saima_gul
    #31 saima_gul
    #30 masadi
    #29 Skeptical
    #28 jayp
    #27 Love2love
    #26 jayp
    #25 jayp
    #24 jayp
    #23 ShoreSahib
    #22 arjun8
    #21 ahmedmadani
    #20 ahmedmadani
    #19 VRV
    #18 bjkumar
    #17 hamidm2
    #16 category5
    #15 bjkumar
    #14 VRV
    #13 bubba
    #12 tahmed32
    #11 category5
    #10 hamidm2
    #9 hamidm2
    #8 blithe
    #7 krbhatti
    #6 thinkingstorm
    #5 Salim_Chauhan
    #4 hamidm2
    #3 arjun8
    #2 arjun8
    #1 Urstruly

Latest Interacts

  • khakiflash: I've got so much... Nothing Queer About It
  • Saleem_Chauhan: the whole world is... The Future of Indo
  • laddu: Re: # 40. it is... The Future of Indo
  • tahmed32: and as for this... Pleas For Sanity as
  • tahmed32: #173 GT: In other... Pleas For Sanity as
  • GT: tahmed: You are simply a... Pleas For Sanity as
  • Pew_Research: Following a visit to... Pleas For Sanity as
  • tahmed32: #170 is to GT... Pleas For Sanity as

THEMES

  • Pakistan's Struggle for Democracy
  • The Indian Story
  • Indo-Pak Relations
  • Personal Narratives
  • Religion Today
  • War on Terror
  • Role of Media
  • Call for Social Change
  • Hold Them Accountable
  • Environment and Us
  • Way of Life
more »

Top 5 Articles This Week

  • Popular
  • An Indian Muslim
  • India-Pakistan: Empathy, grief in Pakistan for Mumbai mayhem
  • Pleas For Sanity as Sabres Rattle Over Mumbai Mayhem
  • Terror in Mumbai.....and also in 'Bannu or somewhere'
  • The Future of Indo Pak Conflict
  • Featured
  • There are a Lot of Monkeys
  • White Charade
  • Words of a Woman
  • FOX News and the Smelly Shoes
  • Dilemmas of Creative Children
  • 10 Years Ago
  • A Ray of Hope
  • Cool Desperation
  • Raj and I
  • The Beautiful Game
  • Due North

Write on Chowk Interact Guidelines Privacy policy Terms Contact

Copyright © 1997 - 2008 chowk.com. All Rights Reserved
Reproduction of material on any www.chowk.com pages without prior written permissions is strictly prohibited