An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir

GT,

"Dear Hamid,

I am really offended now. And you started it. Muslims all over chowk are now laughing at our gau-mutra consumption and propensity to get married to animals. I can tolerate everything, but if you start making fun of gau-mutra then I have all the right to abuse your family. If you think you are so smart, I dare you to come to India and publicly defame gaus and their mutra. Enough said! I hope chowk is taking notice."

I'm offended to. My sensibilities are hurt by those hatefilled comments. May he be born as fron in his next janam.

LA times , Fatima Bhutto:


"Perhaps the most bizarre part of this circus has been the hijacking of the democratic cause by my aunt, the twice-disgraced former prime minister, Benazir Bhutto. While she was hashing out a deal to share power with Gen. Pervez Musharraf last month, she repeatedly insisted that without her, democracy in Pakistan would be a lost cause. Now that the situation has changed, she's saying that she wants Musharraf to step down and that she'd like to make a deal with his opponents -- but still, she says, she's the savior of democracy.

The reality, however, is that there is no one better placed to benefit from emergency rule than she is. Along with the leaders of prominent Islamic parties, she has been spared the violent retributions of emergency law. Yes, she now appears to be facing seven days of house arrest, but what does that really mean? While she was supposedly under house arrest at her Islamabad residence last week, 50 or so of her party members were comfortably allowed to join her. She addressed the media twice from her garden, protected by police given to her by the state, and was not reprimanded for holding a news conference. (By contrast, the very suggestion that they might hold a news conference has placed hundreds of other political activists under real arrest, in real jails.)

Ms. Bhutto's political posturing is sheer pantomime. Her negotiations with the military and her unseemly willingness until just a few days ago to take part in Musharraf's regime have signaled once and for all to the growing legions of fundamentalists across South Asia that democracy is just a guise for dictatorship"

shishapa: join urstruly who also thinks in terms of things being the wrong time, the wrong place instead of facing the reality of what is there now.

arjun8: So, you think Pakistanis are struggling to replace Musharraf with Kiyani? Or is it that the US doesnt really want a democracy and that is why Bush and other US officials have been calling over and over again for free and fair elections.

This talk would be music to the ears of urstruly - but if you are serious about it (or even if you are merely trying to be clever), you need psychiatric care.

I think rule of law was broken in 1999.
Wonder why it took lawyers and all those to wake up
and start struggling for rule of law so late!
There was at one more chance after referendum!

cliftonbridge: "I mean by that logic you are an OBL supporter. "

Perhaps you need to strengthen your powers of logic..

No amount of "logic" can deny the fact that you are opposing those who are struggling bravely for freedom and the rule of law against the armed might available to a dictator who has proved himself to be a liar and and an incompetent despite all his big talk of being Abraham Lincoln and Napoleon Bonaparte rolled into one.

benazir or mushy or kiyani...it's just a different leash on the same raggedy old canine.

Re: # 78 Posted by tahmed32 on November 14, 2007 10:17:22 am

[relatively speaking, that would put indians as being beyond emotionally crazy and lower than even destitute. but dont stop mere facts stop you from crowing.]

Actually, the fact is that today's world has accepted that muslims as a group are highly charged, and irrational. How does talking about indians (by that you surely mean hindus!) refute this fact? How can two wrongs make a right?

Tahmed chachoo this struggle will only reinstate feudalism and kleptocracy, like all pakis you have a very short term memory, please forgive me for being able to remember the day before yesterday.

Yes the army mush and mqm are all filthy that doesnt mean everyone who opposes them is automatically a saviour. I mean by that logic you are an OBL supporter.

#77 Posted by tahmed32 on November 14, 2007 10:15:12 am


re-inforce your preconceived notions?


Everything I've listed is a FACT...but don't let the facts get in the way of your delusionary worldview.

cliftonbridge: the only inconvenient truth is that you have joined the ranks of mqm and jamaateislaami in betraying Pakistanis as they struggle for freedom.

And the inconvenient truth is that Pakistanis will win, and musharraf and those who ignore his disgusting behavior will lose.

Obviously american lawyers (like paki lawyers) cant do the things that really matter. However its nice how people in other countries have responded to the images of valiant paki lawyers standing up to a made up Goliath.

Unfortunately those same people think BB is "bravely fighting" for the restoration of utopia in pakistan ...and have little recollection of the supreme courts autonomy before Mush.... heck maybe they also think zardari is nelson mandela like his wife tweedledum said. The world is full of such inconveniant little truths.

bubba: "Having a billion emotionally crazy people who are destitute"

relatively speaking, that would put indians as being beyond emotionally crazy and lower than even destitute. but dont stop mere facts stop you from crowing.

urstruly: Have you noticed how hard poor arjun is trying to re-inforce your preconceived notions? Every wonder why?

The reason is obvious: Your preconceived notions that call for seeing people who mean you no harm as being against you are music to the ears of the pandit hate.

Re: # 52 Posted by maffrejal on November 14, 2007 4:05:27 am

[Why not muslims stop dealing with non-muslims?]

Hate begets hate.


[There would emerge a muslim economy where it would be by the muslims, for the muslims and of the muslims.]

All of arab world's combined GDP is less than Greece's. Do you know that muslim world's economy means nothing compared to the world economy? Having a billion emotionally crazy people who are destitute, and ruled by corrupt ruling elite has brought this day to the muslim world. So, as the west would surely say, just go ahead and become an isolated and insulated society.

umm..the American govt already treats pakis as potential terrorists.

1. pakis were the first people required to register and get finger printed after 9/11.
2. visas for pakis are cleared in DC, not islamabad.
3. the american government tried to get the brits to send them additional data on brit of the paki persuasion flying to the US.
4. As atif will tell you, the TSA singles you out for special scrutiny.