An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir

“The Holy Prophet was supremely successful ‘though illiterate’ because he was given knowledge and wisdom by God and he used his commonsense too”.
The entire basis of the dogma of the ‘religious churches’ of Muslims is based on the above premise that Muhammad was illiterate and therefore- IGNORANCE- except for rote learning of Arabic, is holiness and hence deserving of jannah(heaven)!
There is no need to quote any scholar to refute this. Commonsense should tell us that a man called Muhammad who brought about an intellectual revolution in twenty three years of his mission could not have been illiterate, particularly as he belonged to the ruling, powerful and business class tribe of Quresh and had travelled out side.
Ummi was a word used by the Jews to describe people of the non-Abrahamic faith who had no Divine Book of their own. That is the Arabs(gentile) were not the people of the book as far as Jews were concerned. I am whole heartedly with Mr Khan, but he left out the besic cause of ignorance of the addresee.
That is, their reliance on so called "other books"-the apocrypha- compiled by the Central Asian crowd- as their article of Faith!
Rashid

Would Khilafat be able to take away the fatwa power of the Mullahs? Would it prevent the "confusion" that subjective interpretation by the muhalla-level, decentralized Muslim leadership causes?? Of course, such a Khilafat presupposes a moderate and enlightened Khalifa in the first place - and as the author suggests, he may not live long enough.

I may be wrong, but I believe Mr. MK Gandhi was all for Khilafat once upon a time. But perhaps for some of us that by itself may be a good enough reason to avoid Khilafat.

Comments anyone?

aslam644, that wasn't cousin marriage; that was veer-zaara replay that drlokraj was trying to arrange. Unfortunately, the life and the wife came in the way. :(

This bloody cousin marriage business is getting out of hand, its leading to people being murdered.

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Girlfriend 'killed pregnant wife'

A pregnant teenager was stabbed to death in her bedroom in a ferocious and sustained attack by her husband's secret lover, a court heard. Harmohinder Kaur Sanghera, of Solihull, West Midlands, stabbed her boyfriend's wife in "jealousy and desperation", Manchester Crown Court heard. Sana Ali, 17, of Bury, Greater Manchester, received 42 wounds. The court heard Ms Sanghera, who denies murder, had been having an affair with Mrs Ali's husband Sair since July 2005. Mr Peter Wright QC, prosecuting, told the court that the relationship continued despite the Alis' arranged marriage in December last year. Stabbed in stomach Mr Wright said Mrs Ali's murderer had deliberately lifted her top and stabbed her in her abdomen at her Throstle Grove home. She was 11 weeks pregnant. "The deeply personal element points unhappily, and unequivocally, to the identity of the killer being the defendant," he said. He said the relationship between Mr Ali and Ms Sanghera, a 23-year-old dentistry student in Birmingham, ended after the attack in May this year. Mrs Ali was born in Pakistan and had been considered to marry her cousin who was also a Shia Muslim, the court heard.
Mr Ali and Ms Sanghera, a Sikh known as Mindy, started a relationship in 2005, but hid it from his parents. Mr Wright said: "He did not tell the defendant he was engaged to be married. "As the relationship became more serious Sair used religion as a pretence for a reason why it could not last." In December 2006 when Mr Ali got married Ms Sanghera became suspicious and Mr Ali told her he was engaged. In March Mr Ali told her his wife was pregnant, but Ms Sanghera said she would become his second wife. The pair had a muta marriage ceremony - a temporary arrangement which means they could live as husband and wife for a specified time. 'Alive and well' The time limit ran out on 16 May - five days after Mrs Ali was killed. On 10 May Ms Sanghera told a friend she was going to end the relationship and tell Mrs Ali about their affair. When arrested, Ms Sanghera told police Mrs Ali let her in after telling her she was an ex-girlfriend of her husband and had sent a teddy bear to him. Ms Sanghera said Mrs Ali was "alive and well, if not a little upset" when she left the house. Mr Wright said: "It is the Crown's case that this was no murder by a random psychopath who happened to pass after Sanghera left. "This was borne of jealousy and desperation." The case continues.

And no hamidm we cant hand over the keys to sheikh rashid and his hoes or benazir and her boys or nawaz and his hair transplant surgeon

hamidm

Well, marrying a female dog or marrying the koran - what's the difference? :)

so oracle of detroit what is the solution how will stability be restored?

Re: # 26

borivili,

.... i think you have it backwards - i am in a crisis because the country is once again going through a kanjarpana .......

........ but don't worry, the more things change, the more they remain the same ..... nothing drastic is going to happen - they had a curfew in malakand in the the seventies, again in the ninetees, and today they announced it again ..... as yogi beraa said, it is deja vu all over again .......

Hamid bhaand band kar ye apna kanjarpan your country is in a crises and all you are worried about is the mating habits of Sheikh Rashid, Jemima and assorted dogs

One nation, one family, one faith

BRITZ the hard hitting drama about the UK muslim suicide bomber

whose side your are on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPPKBvgbn_k

do not give media space to these clowns--HT. I wasted many hours at University debating with these heretics. They are denounced universally by Muslim traditionalists all over the world since they are no more than a bunch of power-hungry, ignorant, fools who use a completely unidimensional interpretation of islam to further their one-point agenda. they are hypocrites of the first order. many do not even pray in their obsession with 're-establishing the caliphate'. they are just rabble. there is NO spirituality and very little knowledge. They are good at dialectic arguments which appear strong to the uninititiated. They are ahlul bidah'. They are unwittingly the biggest enemies of islam! Keep away from these heretics!
May Allah guide them. Read the excellent book The Islamist by Ed Husain--he was formerly a member of HT who saw the light thanks to the pure and noble teachings of traditional islam by people such as Shaykh Hamza Yusuf and the Sufi shaykhs.

Having said all that no Muslim would seriously argue that the return of the Caliphate would be a blessed event. However when and where it shall be is up to Allah. The traditional view is that there will now be no caliphate until the Mahdi. Even if there is, the caliph has to be from the tribe of Quraysh. Caliphate is imposed from above when Allah wills. It is not some pseudo-marxist mass popular movement which HT fantasise about whilst distorting history in their arguments.

#22 Posted by hamidm2

Hamid,
I would like chowk-staff to ban you for hurting my religious and cultural sentiments. BBC is out to defame the Hindu religion and you, being a Muslim, are thoroughly enjoying it. The BBC report is false and all logical people (with a scientific bent of mind) will see through it. For, dogs are not allowed into temples. This is because their caste is slightly below that of dalits and slightly above that of Muslims, Christians etc.
Now please stop this utter non-sense.

.... it is not often, but sometimes i think grandpa gopinath made a wise choice:

from BBC today:

An Indian man has married a female dog, believing the union will help him atone for stoning two other dogs to death.
P Selvakumar, 33, said he had been cursed since the killings, suffering paralysis and a loss of hearing.

The wedding took place at a Hindu temple in Tamil Nadu state. The "bride" wore an orange sari with a flower garland and was fed a bun to celebrate.

#20
Gupangam maharaj seems like a Sayhooni saazish to me.Vaise bhi, Gupangam should have been Guptangam to make his nic meaningful.

With a name like "Gupangam "..isn't it obvious that all he's capable of is retardedness....its our fault to be discussin it..he's just being himself ppl

The logic that argument in the article follows is not only mind boggling but self defeating as well. It goes something like this:

"Since Muslims do not build cars or write theses in Physics etc. therefore they should not chose a system of self governance of their liking."

If we take this logic to be true then the converse must also be true i.e. "all non-Muslims who build cars and write theses in physics must chose khilafat as their system of governance".

This remainds me of a scinetist who was doing experiments on frogs. He taught a sample of frogs to jump at his command. Then he cut one leg of each frog and commanded them to jump. He wrote his observation in his journal, "when we cut one leg of a frog it does not jump very well". After this he cuts off the second leg of those frogs as well and commanded them to jump. No frog jumped that time. He wrote his observation in his journal in these words "When we cut both legs of a frog it loses its sense of hearing - test results confirmed by a large sample of frogs".