An Open Letter to Hizb-ut-Tahrir

#77 Posted by tahmed32 on November 14, 2007 10:15:12 am


re-inforce your preconceived notions?


Everything I've listed is a FACT...but don't let the facts get in the way of your delusionary worldview.

Tahmed chachoo this struggle will only reinstate feudalism and kleptocracy, like all pakis you have a very short term memory, please forgive me for being able to remember the day before yesterday.

Yes the army mush and mqm are all filthy that doesnt mean everyone who opposes them is automatically a saviour. I mean by that logic you are an OBL supporter.

Re: # 78 Posted by tahmed32 on November 14, 2007 10:17:22 am

[relatively speaking, that would put indians as being beyond emotionally crazy and lower than even destitute. but dont stop mere facts stop you from crowing.]

Actually, the fact is that today's world has accepted that muslims as a group are highly charged, and irrational. How does talking about indians (by that you surely mean hindus!) refute this fact? How can two wrongs make a right?

benazir or mushy or kiyani...it's just a different leash on the same raggedy old canine.

cliftonbridge: "I mean by that logic you are an OBL supporter. "

Perhaps you need to strengthen your powers of logic..

No amount of "logic" can deny the fact that you are opposing those who are struggling bravely for freedom and the rule of law against the armed might available to a dictator who has proved himself to be a liar and and an incompetent despite all his big talk of being Abraham Lincoln and Napoleon Bonaparte rolled into one.

I think rule of law was broken in 1999.
Wonder why it took lawyers and all those to wake up
and start struggling for rule of law so late!
There was at one more chance after referendum!

arjun8: So, you think Pakistanis are struggling to replace Musharraf with Kiyani? Or is it that the US doesnt really want a democracy and that is why Bush and other US officials have been calling over and over again for free and fair elections.

This talk would be music to the ears of urstruly - but if you are serious about it (or even if you are merely trying to be clever), you need psychiatric care.

shishapa: join urstruly who also thinks in terms of things being the wrong time, the wrong place instead of facing the reality of what is there now.

LA times , Fatima Bhutto:


"Perhaps the most bizarre part of this circus has been the hijacking of the democratic cause by my aunt, the twice-disgraced former prime minister, Benazir Bhutto. While she was hashing out a deal to share power with Gen. Pervez Musharraf last month, she repeatedly insisted that without her, democracy in Pakistan would be a lost cause. Now that the situation has changed, she's saying that she wants Musharraf to step down and that she'd like to make a deal with his opponents -- but still, she says, she's the savior of democracy.

The reality, however, is that there is no one better placed to benefit from emergency rule than she is. Along with the leaders of prominent Islamic parties, she has been spared the violent retributions of emergency law. Yes, she now appears to be facing seven days of house arrest, but what does that really mean? While she was supposedly under house arrest at her Islamabad residence last week, 50 or so of her party members were comfortably allowed to join her. She addressed the media twice from her garden, protected by police given to her by the state, and was not reprimanded for holding a news conference. (By contrast, the very suggestion that they might hold a news conference has placed hundreds of other political activists under real arrest, in real jails.)

Ms. Bhutto's political posturing is sheer pantomime. Her negotiations with the military and her unseemly willingness until just a few days ago to take part in Musharraf's regime have signaled once and for all to the growing legions of fundamentalists across South Asia that democracy is just a guise for dictatorship"

GT,

"Dear Hamid,

I am really offended now. And you started it. Muslims all over chowk are now laughing at our gau-mutra consumption and propensity to get married to animals. I can tolerate everything, but if you start making fun of gau-mutra then I have all the right to abuse your family. If you think you are so smart, I dare you to come to India and publicly defame gaus and their mutra. Enough said! I hope chowk is taking notice."

I'm offended to. My sensibilities are hurt by those hatefilled comments. May he be born as fron in his next janam.

What's mullah32 is harping about - this "pakis struggling" business?... as far as we can see - there is no masses on the street - BB is barricaded, imran khan is kiddnapped by islamists right in front of thousands of his fans and nobody gave a hoot... :)

cliftonbridge: that's right - it is those who are trying to get rid of this dictator who are the bad ones. the fact is that benazir has put her life on the line, and made herself a uniting force in Pakistan.

Why dont you pull some of the things written about the dictator musharraf instead? Please re-think. Dont join the ranks of those who will forever be remebered the way all traitors and betrayers are remembered - mqm and jamaat i islami.

Last post. Have a nice day.

#91 i see my loyal campfollower has finally come back after many months of trying to be on his own. Consider this post to be the bone that i feed you once every twenty posts - go for it boy!!

Re: # 86 shish
[I think rule of law was broken in 1999. ...Wonder why it took lawyers and all those to wake up..]

Because - at that time pakis en masse were still dreaming on kashmir, war on hinuds and what not... they thought Mushy boy, the tough commando, will wrestle kashmir from horrible hinuds...

In fact, after the coup, for a while indian govt refused to negotiate with mushy, on pretext of him being unlawful ruler... and pakis of all were stripes howled in protest... :)

These are pakis - delusion and stupidity is their forte...

Re: # 88

not joining anybody. I do not have any problem
with anybody struggling for the right cause, but I
think consistency will help a cause much more.
This was the third time, it is not like this is
the first time someone took law into his/her own
hands and there was no precdent.
By 1999, everybody knew how these takeovers/things
proceed.

#87 Posted by tahmed32 on November 14, 2007 10:53:53 am

Let's be clear. The US doesn't want democracy in Pureland the way you imagine it. It wants a democratic facade...a managed affair with their annointed benazir taking reins...which is why it's pushing benazir down the throats of pakis...do you seriously believe that mushy let benazir into pureland of his own accord and bomb-you-to-the-stone-age ka chota bhai had nothing do do with it?

Do you seriously think that if Bush really wanted free and fair elections in pureland, he doesn't have the leverage? One word about cutting aid or trade would bring mushy to his knees.

So tell me..what has Bush said about removing martial law, restoring the judiciary and holding real fair elections? squat..