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The Pakistan Tragedy: Imran Khan Arrested

Maryam Asif November 15, 2007

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#1 Posted by econfused on November 15, 2007 1:26:37 pm
I have seen the clip and I was shocked. I am one of those common man who will never come out on the street or never interact. I cannot stop myself today. No matter what JI has to say about this or what IJT has to say. All I can say from personal experiences in college and university IJT members were hypocrites then and they are hypocrite today.

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#2 Posted by krbhatti on November 15, 2007 2:52:02 pm
Bravo....
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#3 Posted by viqarm on November 15, 2007 5:46:54 pm
It is really sad and shameful what was done with Imran at PU. IK has many faults, and his share of detractors. But he certainly did not deserve this.
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#4 Posted by laddu on November 15, 2007 6:10:04 pm
"In his August 14, 2002, independence day speech to the nation, President General Pervez Musharraf identified ‘sectarianism, religious intolerance and violence’ as a major crisis facing Pakistan. He explained that there is an:
“insignificant minority [that] has held the entire nation hostage to their misconceived views of Islam and fanatical acts of terrorism. They are spreading the malice of sectarianism laced with poison of religious intolerance and violence. The recent attacks specially directed at the places of worship of our Christian brothers and sisters are the most shameful and despicable example of terrorism. All this in the name of Islam, these misled criminals and the terrorists patrons and tutors even have the audacity to think their actions are the route to Jannat. …We all have to put in a joint effort to root out those who are maligning our religion and tarnishing the image of Pakistan while imagining themselves to be ultra-Islamists. There are no quick fix solutions to the problem of sectarianism and extremism, they are to be tackled in a systematic and methodical manner.”
He identified law enforcement and strengthening the security apparatus as the ways to tackle the problem, and called on the ulema, mashaikh and religious parties, etc., to help combat the “the problem of sectarianism and extremism”. What he did not identify was how and why the ideas and values have emerged that are inspiring these “ultra-Islamists”, or how widely-shared these values are in the society at large.
The problems identified by General Musharraf have in large part been the result of children being educated into ways of thinking that makes them susceptible to a violent and exclusionary worldview open to ‘sectarianism and religious intolerance.” There is a need to reform the educational system that produces this worldview.

-The State of
Curricula and Textbooks
in Pakistan


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The cause of Pakistani tragedy is the subtle indoctrination that has been going on since 1947. The subtle way TNT has become the psychological identity of Pakistani citizens.

Even if Imran Khan becomes the khalifa of Pakistan, Jehad will remain the basic defining aspiration of a Pakistani citizen.

It makes no difference to an idolator if Imran or maulana Radio take over Pakistan. Unless Pakistan separates the hate of Islam against idolators and the rest of kafirs from the state craft there is no redemption in the future!!!
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#5 Posted by Ras on November 15, 2007 9:22:57 pm


IK needs to learn who his real friends are.

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#6 Posted by Skeptical on November 15, 2007 9:53:50 pm
The incidence hopefully would actually instil much needed moderation in Imran Khan. He is good fellow though too much right wing. I respect him but his ideology is just too much on the right side and this incidence would open his eyes to the hypocricy and intolerance of radical right.
Good luck to Imran
He does have courage
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#7 Posted by masadi on November 15, 2007 11:24:43 pm
Students at PU had great success in their Anti Jamiat rally, the Jamiat leadership was driven out, their offices ransacked and the rank and file is confused and distraught. On the other hand I would not classify Imran's politics as "radical right"- the Jamiat's politics, yes but not Imran's.
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#8 Posted by blithe on November 16, 2007 1:05:53 am
Good one Maryam!!! This seems to have be your debut article on Chowk. Please keep it up.

You say:
"I wonder what qualifies him [MUSHARRAF] to be the knight in shinning armour to come save our ‘failed state’.."

I could not agree with you more.

In his farcical “election campaign” in September of this glorious year, Mushrraf “threatened” that he would take an increasing “professorial” role in the media.

He has already come through on that promise. He was on PTV yesterday to give a lecture to us on statehood.

Can you belive that?

What a joke!!! What an insult to the actual professors and academics!!!
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#9 Posted by jayp on November 16, 2007 1:31:23 am
Poor Imran, no one to call from abroad for hsi release, if only Jamima could send some money to the paki generals.
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#10 Posted by cliftonbridge on November 16, 2007 6:51:09 am
Yeah this is embarassing. I have never agreed with IK's right wing ideals but he is personally a great guy and its sad that he should be betrayed in this humiliating way by his own.
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#11 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on November 16, 2007 8:34:44 am
{"When the President made it clear on television, his was a choice between saving the country or democracy, thereby imposing emergency and gagging the media, it only added insult to injury. I wonder what qualifies him to be the knight in shinning armour to come save our ‘failed state’, in the first place."}

Maryam,
Thank you for a passionate and thought-provoking article. My comment about your statement, cited above, is that Mushy was that "knight in shining armor" back in 1999. If Bezamir Bhutni and Najaaiz Sharif had not been corrupt and misgoverned the country so blatantly and so ineptly there would not have been a Perv in power. Unfortunately, the country was almost bankrupt and the "democratically-elected" government of Pakistan was asking for charitable donations from citizens to keep the regime functioning.

How quickly Pakis forget the times when their bellies were not full and corrupt "democracy" was extremely unpopular. Motto is keep Pakis hungry with empty bellies and emptier wallets.
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#12 Posted by Brickinthewall on November 16, 2007 7:35:50 pm
Two wrongs do not make a right. If Benazir and Nawaz Sharif were corrupt it should have been left to the people to reject them. That is what constitutes a democracy. President Musharraf came through the back door and his very first action was unconstitutional. How can we expect the rest of his actions to be otherwise. As for the saving bit, haven't we played the 'damsel in distress' part for too long? Lets take responsibility. If something happens to Pakistan, each one of us is accountable.
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#13 Posted by rf786 on November 17, 2007 5:20:16 am
Dear writer,

OK article, sounds genuine but lacks any real punch. Pakistan is in deep sh+t, we are losing territory to the turbaned ideologues. To make matters worse, we have idiots like IK who calls them heroes and chooses to ally himself with right-wing fanatics (JI). Maybe these rightwingers succeed, guess who will they hang first? Imran Khan the adulterer.
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#14 Posted by tahmed32 on November 17, 2007 5:29:03 am
Brickinthewall : Well said!!
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#15 Posted by ravian8mm on November 17, 2007 2:57:58 pm
Yes!! You have expressed the core feelings of the majority. Shameful act against IK… hatred for Mush.... but no leader to follow ...and common man dissociation with the situation.
You are absolutely right that we must all go beyond our affiliations and partiality but to struggle for a common goal ... Get rid of dictator first and then go for real democracy.
We have no chrismatic leader to follow but have some options …BB! Unreliable….Nawaz! noooo….Qazi! never…..IK! unable to mobilize masses. Then what to do in this situation?? Where to find such leader?? We don’t have much option but we have to make a move from cards in hand. The only valuable card is IK at the moment as he is the only pure sign of resistance to the Mush regime and showed his stature so far. He is not much rooted in the common class but have symphethies within. We the ‘e-class’ must move out and support him to make his numbers....eventually the chain reaction starts.
We must step forward practicaly rather than watching the situation and depressing ourselves. We have to take some bold and targeted steps in different stages. Firstly organize some compaign to encourage the people arround us for street mobilization….but “charity begins at home”!!!
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#16 Posted by tahmed32 on November 17, 2007 3:29:55 pm
ravian #15 "Get rid of dictator first and then go for real democracy."

Exactly. One step at a time. No one is totally selfish or totally selfless (except in the minds of simpletons), and democracy is the best way to deal with imperfect humans. Dictatorship simply breeds unchecked corruption.
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    #13 rf786
    #12 Brickinthewall
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    #9 jayp
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