The Battle for Pakistan

jayp writes "the tree million budhist in india who escaped from the chinese are poorer than the abdul paki."

When the US tries to create a buddhist rebellion in China and pits groups against each other, poverty of the recruits will be to their advantage. People who are well vested in the system don't rebel against it. The millions that escaped Afghanistan to come to Iran and Pakistan were peaceful, the book had nothing to do with it because most of them had never read it, but poverty was the plight of most which acted as catalyst to begin a structure, a factory that even when the intial setup team is taken away functions by itself. For you bigotry of mindset describes your methodology- unfortunately you are not as important at the current time to the US to implement its foreign agenda, if you were chosen as enemy #1, you'd porduce similar acts of suicide and "terrorims"- regardless of the books you read and the doggies you marry.... People like you who reduce the calibre of discussion on chowk to an infantile level of bigotry, i.e my dad is better than yours or bigger than yours, need to moved to a different forum. Learn how to think and reason before you mess up these forums...fool.

Imaran will be in prison for some time, Jamima is trying for the gordon brown to make the call.

Benazir was released due to a call from the US. Hamid gul ws released due to a call from saudi king. Pak troops are released and given Rs 500 by the tribals due to their good behavior and the weapons they surrendered.

What do the pakistanis want, they should recall the speech

" you are free, to receive calls from any one and obey them..."

A very courageous and truthful Pakistani.

I will protest on Imran being freed immediately.

masadi saab,

So you are also one among them, who believe that jihadis are due to poverty and support of the US. The US support vanished more than a decade ago, and now who is funding the jihadis, teh abdul pakis with the collections at teh shops and teh madrassas.

Then poverty, well you all seem to claim that poverty is the previlage of pakistani muslims. Take it from me masadi saab, the tree million budhist in india who escaped from the chinese are poorer than the abdul paki. Why no budhist terrorism, I may ask.

It is all in the book, and every muslim dominated country will eventually fall into the jihadic cez pool.

Masadi sahib,

Re: 31 Thanx.

(The islamists and the army are together again. The farce is now over. Any one can see that battle in Pakistan is now between the liberal, moderate on one side and the islamist on the other side.)

I presume HP sain pits the battle in Pak between the liberal, moderate on one side and military-mullah nexus on the other. So I presume you and HP sain are liberalooons and moderatooons. Right?

Regards

The US operates through its occupation force

Reported by The Independant

John Negroponte, the deputy US secretary of state, will meet not only General Musharraf but also General Ashfaq Kiyani, the deputy head of the armed forces, the man poised to take over the senior military role should General Musharraf – as he has promised he will – take off his uniform and become a civilian leader.

jayp shut up with the hoodbuoy stuff. This BS has a history and poverty and neglect is definitely a factor that helped the Americans mainstream the jihadists with motivational, material and military support, without which they were amounting to nothing- they US used them then for its "cold war" and is using it now for its new war without end "the wot". You on the other hand are a bigot just like them and when it comes time to use you, you will hop to as well...

#31, read HPs post because given their agenda and history down deep they are afraid of the people, dictatorship suits them better

Imran,

You are also a true paki elite. You do have the view that jihadis are in response to poverty and lack of governance. Read some of hoodboy articles and find out for yourself ahat is taught in schools, the govt schools, the k for kafir education. That is what is creating a support base for the jihadis among the ilks of tahmed and ylh and you, who refuse to accept the core reason for the jihadis.

Masadi sahib,

Why has the Jamaat fallen out with IK, both of them are anti-WOT and anti-Mush right?

Regards

The Jamiat leadership was thrown out of PU, my sources tell me that the rank and file of them among the studets is quite distraught, this "move" to hand Imran to the police will affect their future membership, their offices were ransacked and the strength of numbers was much greater than any the Jamiat mustered.

I like Imran, he is a true muslim, and he believes in polygamy. He does not entertain the idea of child support, which again is islamic. That is about all, that makes Imran a true pakistani.

tahmed (the peon of the West) writes "His answer was that in order to get anything done in Pakistan you have to be politically strong - not a convincing answer, as Edhi's example as proved."

Your question was based on your worship of all things Western, you do not want anyone making inroads into politics who has an anti-American/pro-people stance. Edhi has proven absolutely nothing. All his efforts have not even made a tiny dent in the poverty and deprivation of the Pakistani public becuase these problems, systemic problems, require systemic and not private solutions, and the only way to do that is by acquiring a position of power at the state. Imran's only problem is his naivety in believing that he could convert his popularity in cricket (due to an apathetic public interested in games and distraction) into popularity in the political field (where apathy is a curse not a blessing)- the best way for him to move forward would have been through established paths, like the ZAB and then strike at the right time- as an independant he will amount to nothing, not for the country and not even for his own kids- so he needs to do some serious thinking while in prison.

On the other hand peons of the West and leeches like tahmed need to leave our politics alone. Just because I agree with him regarding Musharraf being a sob, does not mean we agree for the same reason. He detests Musharraf becuase Musharraf has fallen out of favor with the US elite, before when Musharraf was in their support he said not a single word against him, I detest Musharraf because he is a military dictator who is part of the problem that is destroying political institutions and civil society in our country. There is a big difference between our views. Know your enemy, the peon of the West who claims to be all caring and lovey dovey about the Pakistanis but is actually stabbing them in the back.

Hope for pakistan

There is a news item that malaysian airlines is planning to "tunku" food, the preferred food of the father of malaysia. Here is a suggestion from a pakistani to have jinnah food on PIA.

What will that be, Gin and pork, and that would be atrue haram for the islamic republic. This shows the ignorence of teh andul paki about their own leader.

From dawn of today


Our leadership always tries to simulate the Malaysian model of progress, but when we compare our civil liberties, law and order, public services, i.e. health care, transport, education, civic and recreation facilities, behaviour of social elites, quality of life and performance of police, we cut a sorry figure before the comity of nations.

We may not be able to compete in other areas, but at least our national carrier PIA can take the lead and take to air gastronomic favourites of our Father of the Nation, corresponding to his Indian and European preferences.

Should the proposition be deemed viable, the scheme may be launched after proper research and not in haste, keeping in view the stature of the leader.

Imran Khan is admired by the educated idealist class of Pakistan. These are knowledgeable people, but unfortunately, never come out on the streets preferring to discuss most events from a laptop or drawing room.

Imran has made serious errors of judgements in the past like:
1. Supporting Musharraf.
2. Joining APDM and then being betrayed by Fazal and now Jamaat.
3. Should have involved APDM in the Universiry protest.
4. Failing to fill the vacuum created by the absence of BB and NS.

Being a loner, he remains Imran the Idealist. He single handily built a hospital and would no doubt continue to come up with more projects like the university etc. For social work he can build an efficient team because he pays them well, they will not follow him in the same stead when it comes to politics.

It is a fact that Imran the idealist has no street power or he would have not met the type of reception he got at the university, nor he can galvanise other parties to join his cause. It is also a fact, that he is the most honest, straight forward and charismatic politician around. So why this disconnect?

The disconnect lies in the mindset of Pakistani Politics. All major parties consider him a threat and so does the establishment. His high ideals prevent him to behave the way they do and therefore he remains alone. Whenever a chance comes, this mindset of 1935 will stab him.He now has enemies in all major political parties like PPP, MQM, JUI, JI and the establishment.

Perhaps those who criticise him for his lack of agenda have not gone through his web site.