Pakistan at War

hamid writes " so, tell me ... is the us elite responsible for all the internecine slaughter that has been taking place within the ummah since the time of the abominable four?"

Don't try to invent straw men in order to pervert my extremely spot on arguments regarding the US power structure and its elite post WW2. Regarding the claim that you are "very consistent"- the only thing you are consistent in is parroting the base propaganda of Bush like morons, and not even that of the sophisticated members of the US elite....

hamid writes " so, tell me ... is the us elite responsible for all the internecine slaughter that has been taking place within the ummah since the time of the abominable four?"

Don't try to invent straw men in order to pervert my extremely spot on arguments regarding the US power structure and its elite post WW2. Regarding the claim that you are "very consistent"- the only thing you are consistent in is parroting the base propaganda of Bush like morons, and not even that of the sophisticated members of the US elite....

Re: # 68

zyxius,

..... i am very consistent .... i never threatened to kill anyone personally - all i did was offer to pay for the hellfire missiles with my tax dollars ..... unlike you jihadis, i am not a fool - i don't have to blow myself up for my cause when i can afford to pay for remote controlled technology ......

Re: # 68

Right on dude... Bring them on... Bring the yankees on to pakiland... Wait a minute, I thought they are already in there... guarding your nuke sites[so nytimes says], monitoring passenger list at your airports... hell-firing tribals once a while...

Don't worry about injuns and chinese... you just enjoy the "show"...

#66 - mohar...you seem to have a big stick up your ass over Pakistan. Maybe you should realize that the reason the US wants to be situated here is to be in a better position to give it to you Injuns and Chinese next. Thats how their strategy usually works.

As far as sending in their own guys is concerned, I am saying that rather than others falling into their trap and fighting their wars for them, we should force them to do their dirty deeds themselves. Idealistic? I know. I think it is actually worth the devastating cost to have the Americans get it our of their system and have their sons & daughters sent home in body bags wholesale. Besides, they are so damned tied up in Iraq and the planning for Iran is at an advanced stage...so I doubt very much they have enough free hands or the public appetite to do anything more than bitch about it and cut off aid. No amount of aid is worth a civil war in your country....it contradicts the purpose of the term aid. American aid is more like a slow working poison which is sure to kill.

Hamidm....I think you should grow a pair and speak in your beliefs in public before you try to be a hero from the safety of your computer. One day you're making threats to kill all bearded people, force surgical procedures on the population etc. Another time you admitted that you are a cowardly sissy who wouldn't dare speak what he thinks in public, but you fancy yourself as the next Ataturk. Take some medication and shut up man...there is no point talking to people who don't even have the balls to be consistent.

Re: # 65

30 faithfuls killed,130 injured in one day?... hmmm, it took us weeks to have that kind of kill-rate in kashmir, even at the height of jihad...

Well, you pakis are way ahead of us on this... we can never match your kill-rate on muslims...

Re: # 61
[...I say we make them send their guys in so we can enjoy the show and watch more dumb hicks die for their Jewish masters...]

Yeah, good idea... Make americans send in their guys to pakiland... make them send in the marines and the daisy-cutters... it will be a great show indeed... :)

masadi and zyxius,

... so, tell me ... is the us elite responsible for all the internecine slaughter that has been taking place within the ummah since the time of the abominable four? ........ what about karbala and now parachinar? .....

PARACHINAR: At least 30 people were reported killed and another 130 wounded in sectarian violence in Parachinar city of Kurram Agency on Saturday, locals and hospital sources said.

Fighting between the Sunni and Shia sects erupted after unidentified militants hurled a hand-grenade at the central mosque in Parachinar, where hundreds of Sunnis were offering Friday prayers.

............ i think it is the nature of the beast

Masadi sahib

Re: 63

No point in blaming Jayp alone. Most Injuns are peons of the West.

Regards

Jayp, you need to get an education, detaching facts from their roots in social structure and trying to understand them as patterns by themselves, blaming it on "reading a book"- is the most absurd nonsense that anyone has spewed here, you are a close second to the tahmed hamid duo in being a "US propaganda parroter without an ounce of thought" all for the purpose of soothing your bigotry....

Madani saab,

You cannot blaming the US for everything, simply because it does not help the pakistanis.

At some stage you have to take responsibility and do something about it. If the educated like you do nothing, then the jihadis and teh Us will do it to you.

As you are busy blaming the US, listen carefully,

Only a 100 Kn from Islamabad, the video stores are being blown up, the barber shops are being shut down, the posters calling for jihad are coming up through out pakistan.

The bomb is the biggest handicap for pakistan, the world will not let pakistan in peace. How about lobbying for the Korean option.

I'm afraid in Pakistan the US has the top generals of the Pak army as their errand boys, while amongst the politicians they have a wide selection of traitors with vast experience in the manipulation of their people/sheeple. If not the hijacking of our democracy by the army, then we have feudals, and if not the feudals, we have robber-baron businessmen, and if not them, we have fanatic secularists who are out of touch with Pakistan but fancy themselves as the next Ataturks (poor losers), and if not them we have our munafiq leaders leaders like Fazloo who spend their spare time in brothels in Dubai and a day at the office involves making fools of his own constituency, and if not them, we have the terrorists at MQM....we could go on.

Divide and rule, divide and rule, divide and rule....they've been doing it to us for hundreds of years and we still fall for the same shit again and again. If we had any sense at all we would finally wake up and smell the coffee and realize that the best option for us is to accept anything that is stable for now so that we can at least get on our feet to the point that our President/PM don't have to remove the US President's member from his mouth before being able to address his own people. We shouldn't have to take dictates from others...that should be our top priority rather than some fantasy democracy that we are too ill-equipped to bring about in this screwed up country.

Movements for an independent judiciary and freedom of the media are again going so far as to divide our country yet again and enabling foreign interest to dictate what our country must do. Bibi is acknowledging our slave status when she keeps coming on various media to address the US government and people to "bring regime change in Pakistan", "threaten the cut off of aid and military assistance", look to her as the only democratic and secular option for Pakistan...etc.

Now we have morons like this Akmal Hussain guy writing this article which obviously totally ignores the role that "Collateral Damage", Kidnappings, and the War on Terror have had to play in creating the violence we see in these areas. It smells like the same crap that the New York Times and other Zionist mouthpieces were shoving down the throats of the American public to fraudulently push them into war with Iraq on behalf of Israel, the military/industrial complex and the oil industry. Don't kid yourself Mr Hussain, you don't even have the talent to be a bullshitter like those guys....you may as well create iLogs like the rest of us....that would be a more appropriate place for incomplete ramblings and random thoughts.

Watch these legions of misguided fools create a civil war in Pakistan. Who do you think is going to be laughing all the way to the bank? Only the Americans benefit from this because it leaves us killing each other and fighting American wars in our area without them even having to send their boots on the ground. I say we make them send their guys in so we can enjoy the show and watch more dumb hicks die for their Jewish masters.

Divide and rule!

In #59 read "The Pakistan Army does not call any "shots", ..."

that is relative to the Americans, on the local scene, on behalf of the Americans, they call all the shots...

szaman writes "Without Pakistan’s support, Nato and America in Afghanistan are doomed.....there is no alternative to that..."

Another fool thinks that just because he had read something in a newspaper that is all what is needed to guage America's strength in the region. You mean to tell me if Musharraf had said NO post 9/11 to American demands they would have put their WOT on hold because the Pakistan Army is calling the shots and not America: are you a fool. If the US was really interested in Afghanistan, rather than it being a mere distraction, you would have seen the scale they have used in Iraq. You also forget that bordering Afghanistan are Turkmenistan,Uzbekistan and Tajikistan each have US military bases, and it is not much of a problem for the US to take over your Northern areas by force of arms to use that very route without "use" of the Pakistan military- not a problem for it at all, when a few rag tags over there can have your entire military on the run...

The Pakistan Army does not call any "shots", neither do the Americans need them except for convenience of use and give them payoffs for that which they lap up like leeches sucking the blood of the nation. The Americans demand and your military hops to.

tahmed -- this is indeed a naked government of naked musharraf, by naked musharraf, for naked musharraf".

With Geo gone the emperor has no clothes -- not even a fig leaf -- to cover his macho chuhiya.

As a long time subscriber of Geo -- Musharraf makes me so mad. First he stole an elected government -- then he hijacked the Supreme Court -- this time he ran away with our GEO channel?

This is too much -- the kleptomaniac is an incorrigibly unreformed thief -- totally wasted -- Democracy has no future with this man in Pakistan -- Musharraf must resign.

nasah: he is a "paranoid schizophrenic extremist" this week. last week he was a megalomaniac, comparing himself to napoleon. and a comedian, comparing himself to lincoln ("government of the people, by the people and for the people" being replaced by "government of musharraf, by musharraf, and for musharraf").

God bless the brave people of Pakistan. May the become more united in their just struggle for democracy.