Search for Origins of Mahayana Buddhism

Re: # 99 I did,nt mean to offend you, i was also thinking may be the place of words is unfit; and it has . I just meant to confirm truths and have an open mind. I did,nt mena to hurt any one's dignity.

Re: # 99 I did,nt mean to offend you, i was also thinking may be the place of words is unfit; and it has . I just meant to confirm truths and have an open mind. I did,nt mena to hurt any one's dignity.

Miyan, Chandrakirti was a great scholar who wrote Madhyamakavatara.

Re: # 98 Makhan Chur ki kehani perhi hei kiya!

Re: # 100 it is 1st centruy not 10th century in first line orry for typing error.

Re: # 94 Dear Jang Mahayana school began in 100 AD under Kanishak's influence and 10th century the idols began in Gandhara and it was conscious and liberal decision in those times to come out of narrow clutches of Hinayana/Nihayana to propagate this belief among masses.Were there Buddha idols in Greek?

Picasso's art has symbols of Maya and Inca civilization, does it rob him of his own Picassohood? The learning and assimilation of technique does not obliterate or undertone the basic idea of article Mahayana began in gnadhara and it introduced idols in the Buddhist ideology, back in 5th century in buddhsit temples in South India there were no idols read Oxford History of Indian Art . it is Gandhara art, before greeks there were parts of buddha sculptured not whole body with face, it was in Gandhara that whole body was developed and Mahayana school's bases were laid dwon.

take things not from India or Pakistan's perspctive read them from open heart and mind and embark on footsteps of great sage Krishna Murti at least... think freely !

mahfari: agreed. I am all for using our own minds. and my mind also tells me that not all of us are going to read al beruni in the original like you or maharana (who says he plans to do that). nor are all of us going to go around collecting original evidence from pottery shards and deciphering ancient edicts.

so it is useful to read some properly researched history books with documented sources of data as well in order to increase our knowledge and understanding.

Re: # 87

Bhai may your Allah give you a place in heavens. May you have the big eyed ones.
I have accepted the message given by you......but I reject the message given by that paedophile..........your message is clear, simple and makes sense.......... so let us be at peace..

Re: # 95 kis kay chupai chupi hi roshni!

Re: # 90 Thx for qutoing him. but we have our own minds and reading Primary sources of history makes us use our own reasoning skills!

there was only one book on history , a book of annals, Raj Tarangni written by a Minister of kashmir.......... a great contrast from present Kashmir!

mahfari: so you are in China? nai hao!! :-)
I knew the chinese government was trying to curb "dangerous ideas" of human rights etc. to enter china. I did not realize that it extended to banning Wikipedia. Let us hope Pakistanis never allow the musharraf or some other would-be autocrat to mess with the internet.

its good to see pakis looking at budhhism even with the tinted chashma. gandhara school of sculpture had a definate greek influence in form .. curly hair, upright stature. previous indian sculpture seems to consider a symmetric upright statues as aesthetically unappealing and tend to go for the ashta-wakra (8-bends) forms.

there are temples built before 10th century with idols..

Re: # 88 These idea s will be blasphemous for narrow minded on both sides of border! truth has very strong influence, it shakes up..... learn from Krishna Murti and make your mind free to think freely not to think from biases, use mind not emotions!

that last sentence has a missing word "toe" at the end.

Re: # 85 No need to go and search the rushdie book . i tell you truth, this issue began in 1988-89 in pakistan when a religious scholar wrote an article in daily jang and he was denied power in the regime at taht time and he quoted some portions making fun of ablution by Muslims and raised issues about the spouses of Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) and it was an issue. the intentions were not good and it was fitna! Oh vested interest how many faces you have!

take a broader outlook of such mob mentality by comapring Holocaust, Frenzy of 1947 in India, Bosnia, Rwanda, present frenzy in Iraq, Gujerat in last years, and recently Nandi Gram... Dear Rana sahib need more examples!

mahfari: btw, John Keay in his excellent book A History of India, supports your thesis that it was with the arrival of muslims that we start getting significant written records of indian politics, economy and society. thus, e.g., much of the earlier history of the deccan is gleaned from pottery tablets, stone pillars etc. which were sometimes meaningful as in case of Asoka, but often merely told tall tales about the king that are of no scientific value. he gives the example of one tablet that credits the king as having a light coming out of his big :-).