mahmood Mahmood November 17, 2007
#297 Posted by mahfari on February 25, 2008 10:31:27 am
Life moves on and we keepon waiting fro responses which neevr come!
#295 Posted by mahfari on December 17, 2007 8:50:42 am
Re: # 294 We are not discussing my beliefs here. we chnage our minds here if we know new things. Every moment is new moment. Read the previous interacts on hte issue.
#294 Posted by Eklavya on December 17, 2007 6:48:58 am
mahfari bhai, it is unreasonable to discuss reason unmindful of the audience.
Let me know when you have gathered your 'evidence' and I will be glad to discuss your beliefs with you. Note, I will only take up your beliefs with you, not reason or logic.
Let me know when you have gathered your 'evidence' and I will be glad to discuss your beliefs with you. Note, I will only take up your beliefs with you, not reason or logic.
#293 Posted by mahfari on December 16, 2007 9:13:11 pm
Re: # 290 Dear the question is of making sense and forwarding discussion logically, not to pour scorn and to beat about the bush, hte topic was the origins of Mahayana Buddhism, and it was turned out into Muslim bashing by certain vested interest. The answer needs to be relevant, now if some one is bent upon denying rationalI think at least we should be ready to defend our point of view with rationality and reason and not with hatred and scorn!
#292 Posted by Eklavya on December 16, 2007 7:42:13 pm
inquirer, one doesn't have consensus with people calling the Buddha a monotheist. It is enough to point out the lies and then leave such folks free, for they will never change. Neither learning nor change is their objective.
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mahfari bhai, let me know when you have gathered your references outside of the Quran or what some believer in the Quran wrote up for your eternal reading pleasure.
(despite my well-established bigotry, my problem is not with the Quran, but solely with people like you.)
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mahfari bhai, let me know when you have gathered your references outside of the Quran or what some believer in the Quran wrote up for your eternal reading pleasure.
(despite my well-established bigotry, my problem is not with the Quran, but solely with people like you.)
#291 Posted by Inquirer on December 16, 2007 10:47:18 am
Re: # 191: nasah sahab aadaab after a long time!
scanning the interactors I found your comment! I wish people think like you!!
I would like to draw the attention of all interactors to learn a lesson from your comment!!!
Needless to say I agree with your statement a hundred per cent. But to answer your question at the end needs illumination from you. May be it will bring sense to some!!!!
scanning the interactors I found your comment! I wish people think like you!!
I would like to draw the attention of all interactors to learn a lesson from your comment!!!
Needless to say I agree with your statement a hundred per cent. But to answer your question at the end needs illumination from you. May be it will bring sense to some!!!!
#290 Posted by Inquirer on December 16, 2007 10:35:34 am
Eklavya and mahfari:
Both of you have been at each other at cross-purposes for long time. Fundamental objective of interactions should be to make an effort to know what the other person has been saying and get across clearly. Two people may reach a consensus or fail to understand each other. There is really no point in arguing ad infinitum. A hundred interactions are enough!!
Both of you have been at each other at cross-purposes for long time. Fundamental objective of interactions should be to make an effort to know what the other person has been saying and get across clearly. Two people may reach a consensus or fail to understand each other. There is really no point in arguing ad infinitum. A hundred interactions are enough!!
#289 Posted by mahfari on December 15, 2007 5:56:17 pm
Re: # 288 Hom many were discussed without backing up? remember Dr . Tara Chand?
#288 Posted by Eklavya on December 15, 2007 10:31:23 am
Hide? I am the most biased, bigoted person on the whole planet. I have been compared to Hitler, Mussolini, khomeini (sorry, not khomeini), martini, and lamborghini. Don't let that worry you.
You go ahead and make whatever points you wish to. Next time you attribute ridiculous statments to non-Muslims and outside of the Quran, also see if you are willing to discuss them and can back them up.
You go ahead and make whatever points you wish to. Next time you attribute ridiculous statments to non-Muslims and outside of the Quran, also see if you are willing to discuss them and can back them up.
#287 Posted by mahfari on December 15, 2007 10:24:41 am
Re: # 286 Dear how far you can hide your inner bias?
#286 Posted by Eklavya on December 15, 2007 9:37:34 am
array bhai, we should not refute the rational relevance of anything, be it the Quran or the Kama Sutra.
#285 Posted by mahfari on December 15, 2007 8:23:39 am
Re: # 284 I never said Quran is a final source as a reference point in discussion it is always relevant if supports the fact otherwise it may not be relevant. It may be matter of belief for Muslims.. it should be for them... but for others it is not matter of belief, but others should alos not completely refute its rational relevance whatever the case be.
#284 Posted by Eklavya on December 15, 2007 7:49:31 am
mahfari bhai, glad you have found the truth, and are saved. Now, please spare the rest of us, unless you can back up your assertions without referring to what is written in the Quran or what this or that Muslim/Communist wrote. Thanks and best regards.
#283 Posted by mahfari on December 15, 2007 7:04:31 am
Re: # 282 I remmeber Bikerma Jeet's brother Bherteri Hari's great verses
phul ki patti sy kat sekta hei heray ka jiger
merd-e nadan per kalame narm o nazuk by aser!
Yea when lies are spoken persistently then lies become truth and TRUTh seems lie!
And serious debate becomes game because we are not able to acept different point of view or our personal limited views of thinking!
The tragedy of our times is that there is to much religion... May Allah save us from curse of too much religion!
phul ki patti sy kat sekta hei heray ka jiger
merd-e nadan per kalame narm o nazuk by aser!
Yea when lies are spoken persistently then lies become truth and TRUTh seems lie!
And serious debate becomes game because we are not able to acept different point of view or our personal limited views of thinking!
The tragedy of our times is that there is to much religion... May Allah save us from curse of too much religion!
#282 Posted by Eklavya on December 15, 2007 4:55:08 am
mahfari #275
Please quit trying to play those childish games.
Inquirer, there is no detente. The gentleman - like ALL other people of his ilk - is lying through his teeth. You will wait forever for the references you need. And even then, nothing you say, or can say, will change his mind. Try it further with mahfari and you will see what I mean. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to play games with mahmood mahmood sort anymore.
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zee boss, I fully understand and agree, in the greater scheme of things. I am even sure mahfari and his types think they are doing humanity a huge favor by repeatedly and brazenly making things up and lying wholesale. And surely those who accept these gentlemen (and women) as normal human beings and their fables as the truth (it is uncomfortable trying to separate truth from fiction) are being helped.
But just personally, I find that approach most repulsive. That's one limit I have not crossed, and never will.
Nor have I seen you do that - deliberately lie, take the course of demonstrable untruth so you may "help the mankind." That along with clear ability to see religion as a whole system (and not the foolish view of religion as something we individually believe in and carry in our pockets), IMO, is your distinguishing characteristic.
Please quit trying to play those childish games.
Inquirer, there is no detente. The gentleman - like ALL other people of his ilk - is lying through his teeth. You will wait forever for the references you need. And even then, nothing you say, or can say, will change his mind. Try it further with mahfari and you will see what I mean. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to play games with mahmood mahmood sort anymore.
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zee boss, I fully understand and agree, in the greater scheme of things. I am even sure mahfari and his types think they are doing humanity a huge favor by repeatedly and brazenly making things up and lying wholesale. And surely those who accept these gentlemen (and women) as normal human beings and their fables as the truth (it is uncomfortable trying to separate truth from fiction) are being helped.
But just personally, I find that approach most repulsive. That's one limit I have not crossed, and never will.
Nor have I seen you do that - deliberately lie, take the course of demonstrable untruth so you may "help the mankind." That along with clear ability to see religion as a whole system (and not the foolish view of religion as something we individually believe in and carry in our pockets), IMO, is your distinguishing characteristic.
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