mahmood Mahmood November 17, 2007
#89 Posted by Maharana on December 5, 2007 10:38:14 am
Mystic,
You can also deduce from that paragraph that those spared were not in the main root of the invasion. Hence invasion still was the cause of the ultimate destruction.
The decline of Buddhism started with Hinduism accepting Buddha as the ninth Avatar. Even now most of the concepts in both are not much different.
Adios
You can also deduce from that paragraph that those spared were not in the main root of the invasion. Hence invasion still was the cause of the ultimate destruction.
The decline of Buddhism started with Hinduism accepting Buddha as the ninth Avatar. Even now most of the concepts in both are not much different.
Adios
#88 Posted by laddu on December 5, 2007 10:38:06 am
Re: # 81
listen, this tranlation argument is a joke. Hinduism did not survive because Akbar translated their books. Those who assert this are only repeating their Pak Studies propaganda.
Hinduism survived because of the guts , resolve and faith of idolaters like me. It survived because hindus bribed, bought, struggled, fought for preservation of their living traditions. It was preserved because idolators like me spent years of their life learning, reading and practicing the texts and practices of their Dharmic texts.
Nooooo credit goes to a momeen for "preservation" of my culture. we idolators collectively "preserved" it DESPITE the muslim rulers!!!
listen, this tranlation argument is a joke. Hinduism did not survive because Akbar translated their books. Those who assert this are only repeating their Pak Studies propaganda.
Hinduism survived because of the guts , resolve and faith of idolaters like me. It survived because hindus bribed, bought, struggled, fought for preservation of their living traditions. It was preserved because idolators like me spent years of their life learning, reading and practicing the texts and practices of their Dharmic texts.
Nooooo credit goes to a momeen for "preservation" of my culture. we idolators collectively "preserved" it DESPITE the muslim rulers!!!
#87 Posted by Urstruly on December 5, 2007 10:35:54 am
Re: # 61 laddu
Bhai you seem to be very angry for some reason. And as I understand it your anger is based on the content of some work (Chandrakirti ) that was destroyed a few centuries ago. If that work was destroyed then how did you review it and if you didn't then how can a non-existent mythical thing upset you? This is insane.
My invitation to your salvation is for your own good. God is absolutely and dispassionately indifferent to my recognition or your recognition of Him. Our recognition of Him is for our own good. I am only extending this invitation (dawat) to you and all on this website because my own salvation lies in this. Whether or not you accept this invitation has no consequences to me or any other for I have conveyed what I was charged with.
However, as a fellow human being I would like you to succeed. Isn't it an absolute truth that anger is the most potent of the forces that misguides human beings? Please shed the anger; it will help you realize the beauty around us.
Bhai you seem to be very angry for some reason. And as I understand it your anger is based on the content of some work (Chandrakirti ) that was destroyed a few centuries ago. If that work was destroyed then how did you review it and if you didn't then how can a non-existent mythical thing upset you? This is insane.
My invitation to your salvation is for your own good. God is absolutely and dispassionately indifferent to my recognition or your recognition of Him. Our recognition of Him is for our own good. I am only extending this invitation (dawat) to you and all on this website because my own salvation lies in this. Whether or not you accept this invitation has no consequences to me or any other for I have conveyed what I was charged with.
However, as a fellow human being I would like you to succeed. Isn't it an absolute truth that anger is the most potent of the forces that misguides human beings? Please shed the anger; it will help you realize the beauty around us.
#85 Posted by Maharana on December 5, 2007 10:31:58 am
Mahfari,
I will read Al Beruni's Al Hind since you have talked so much about him. There seems to be a lot more to Beruni then just translating and propagating works as you are claiming.
It is a widely hels notion by historians that the arabs were excellent traders not just in goods but in ideas too. The muslims in spain translated works from the east and created a vast library in Al Andalus.
Yes, I'll quote you the exact issues regarding the Rushdie affair and his claims soon enough.
Adios
I will read Al Beruni's Al Hind since you have talked so much about him. There seems to be a lot more to Beruni then just translating and propagating works as you are claiming.
It is a widely hels notion by historians that the arabs were excellent traders not just in goods but in ideas too. The muslims in spain translated works from the east and created a vast library in Al Andalus.
Yes, I'll quote you the exact issues regarding the Rushdie affair and his claims soon enough.
Adios
#84 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 10:31:11 am
Re: # 80 thank you mystic for setting the record straight! I would have myself read it , but here it does not open!
#83 Posted by tahmed32 on December 5, 2007 10:30:58 am
mahfari: you mention that you are in a country where the wikipedia is not accessible. and yet you can access the interent. I am curious to know which country this is, and why wikipedia is not accessible.
#82 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 10:29:46 am
Re: # 79 yea i have read again and again bhagwat gita and it is pure bliss to read! You?
#81 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 10:28:05 am
Re: # 77 wonderful ! You are beyond Badayuni, who himself sadi that akbar forced me to translate the texts of kafirs and he was labeleld Mullah by Akber himself!
(get a copy of book and read it , it is not available on internet certainly )
Be sure do,nt beat about the bush by saying PROBABLY!
(get a copy of book and read it , it is not available on internet certainly )
Be sure do,nt beat about the bush by saying PROBABLY!
#80 Posted by Mystic on December 5, 2007 10:27:17 am
#68
You forgot or intentially insert (need to be Verified)
In your bias you did not completely quote from the Wikipedia
Ling and Scott, however, point out that centres of learning were already declining, before the presence of Muslims.[18] Fortified Sena monasteries along the main route of the invasion were destroyed, and being off the main route both Nalanda and Bodh Gaya survived. Many institutions off the main route such as the Jagaddala Monastery in northern Bengal were untouched and flourishing(also ned to be verified)
I do not know if you have visited (for orientation of different areas mentined )to deduce .I have
You forgot or intentially insert (need to be Verified)
In your bias you did not completely quote from the Wikipedia
Ling and Scott, however, point out that centres of learning were already declining, before the presence of Muslims.[18] Fortified Sena monasteries along the main route of the invasion were destroyed, and being off the main route both Nalanda and Bodh Gaya survived. Many institutions off the main route such as the Jagaddala Monastery in northern Bengal were untouched and flourishing(also ned to be verified)
I do not know if you have visited (for orientation of different areas mentined )to deduce .I have
#79 Posted by laddu on December 5, 2007 10:26:30 am
Re: # 75
"Re: # 67 Read Bhagwat Gita and think over it , you will know its meanings!"
I would say the same to you about Quran!!
"Re: # 67 Read Bhagwat Gita and think over it , you will know its meanings!"
I would say the same to you about Quran!!
#78 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 10:25:05 am
Re: # 76 He translated many portions of bhagwat gita , but many other Classic Hindu texts were also translated well before him in akbar's era in Persian.
#77 Posted by laddu on December 5, 2007 10:24:23 am
"he got translated the Ramayna in Persian along with other texts of Hindu classic literature."
That is a joke.........translations to persian or english only helps bridge the gap between two different religons........it does not "preserve" a living tradition......only practicing hindus "preserve" a living tradition of vedas and sanathan dharma........ Akbar probably translated them at the request of mullahs who wanted to analyse the original texts of the idolator for fatwas to control them.................
That is a joke.........translations to persian or english only helps bridge the gap between two different religons........it does not "preserve" a living tradition......only practicing hindus "preserve" a living tradition of vedas and sanathan dharma........ Akbar probably translated them at the request of mullahs who wanted to analyse the original texts of the idolator for fatwas to control them.................
#76 Posted by ShoreSahib on December 5, 2007 10:23:05 am
Actually Darashikoh translated the first ever translation into any language of the Upanishads.
In his case, from Sanskrit to Persian.
In his case, from Sanskrit to Persian.
#75 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 10:22:32 am
Re: # 67 Read Bhagwat Gita and think over it , you will know its meanings!
#74 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 10:15:28 am
Re: # 71 he got translated the Ramayna in Persian along with other texts of Hindu classic literature. read Muntakhawab-al-tarikh written by badayuni , that there was a whole lot of people to translate literature of India in Persian. dara Shikuh translated bhagwat Gita and wrote a book Majm-al behrain.
Come out of propaganda ideology, confirm the texts.
If you can get read the brilliant thesis by Dr. Tara Chnad Influence of Islam on Indian Culture , he was not a propagandsit certainly!
Come out of propaganda ideology, confirm the texts.
If you can get read the brilliant thesis by Dr. Tara Chnad Influence of Islam on Indian Culture , he was not a propagandsit certainly!
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