mahmood Mahmood November 17, 2007
#177 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 11:44:42 am
Re: # 174It can be said for every person for which any one has regard, and usually it is reserved for Prophets peace be upon them , who were sent to all of the humanity!
#178 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 11:49:56 am
Re: # 175 why you are obsessesed with words Pakistanis and Muslims? talk about ideas not about from where that person originates and what is hsi or her religion!
#179 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 12:01:16 pm
Re: # 173This "Conformity Syndrome" is not restricted to Pakistanis only, there are Christians who want to run world as per Bible, Jews as per Talmud, Hindus as per Ramayna and Mahabharta? Why to figure out Pakistanis only?
#180 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 12:01:21 pm
Re: # 173This "Conformity Syndrome" is not restricted to Pakistanis only, there are Christians who want to run world as per Bible, Jews as per Talmud, Hindus as per Ramayna and Mahabharta? Why to figure out Pakistanis only?
#181 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 3:55:47 pm
Re: # 180
"Hindus as per Ramayna .."
No way, NO hindu idolator wants to run his country as per Ramayana....
Sorry, you have little idea about what modern hinds want!!! We only want to live without the Islamic goons threatening us all the time.
"Hindus as per Ramayna .."
No way, NO hindu idolator wants to run his country as per Ramayana....
Sorry, you have little idea about what modern hinds want!!! We only want to live without the Islamic goons threatening us all the time.
#182 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 7:04:12 pm
Re: # 181 when illusion are so high! and fears creep in your imaginery world, hten how can reason prevail . and onsalught of TV serials glorifying, old classic characters and spreading hatred agaisnt other people on the name of religion is practised as an art in Gujerat, when churches and mosques are destroyed... then perpetrators do,nt wnat glorious and illusory past back!
well said dear , mere your reasoning is fine and all other world which sadi you were killing muslims and christians is wrong!
and if it is a scattered incidence.. acepted... then how can scattered incidences in other communities be threat and an all pervasive phenomenon!
How far we can keep on denying the existance of realities. This world is not perfect , we need to accept limitations and learn to tolerate, not to be racists!
well said dear , mere your reasoning is fine and all other world which sadi you were killing muslims and christians is wrong!
and if it is a scattered incidence.. acepted... then how can scattered incidences in other communities be threat and an all pervasive phenomenon!
How far we can keep on denying the existance of realities. This world is not perfect , we need to accept limitations and learn to tolerate, not to be racists!
#183 Posted by dost_mittar on December 8, 2007 3:01:06 am
kamath:
"Am I wrong in my understanding that the very special ranking 'PBUH is bestowed only on the prophet of Islam?"
Not really! It is to be used for all prophets - from Hazrat Adam onwards. [of course, all these are prophets of Islam, not just Mohammad.
"Am I wrong in my understanding that the very special ranking 'PBUH is bestowed only on the prophet of Islam?"
Not really! It is to be used for all prophets - from Hazrat Adam onwards. [of course, all these are prophets of Islam, not just Mohammad.
#184 Posted by mahfari on December 8, 2007 7:15:16 am
Re: # 183 it is peace be upon him (PBUH)and it is for all hte prophets
#185 Posted by mahfari on December 8, 2007 7:15:16 am
Re: # 183 it is peace be upon him (PBUH)and it is for all hte prophets
#186 Posted by mahfari on December 8, 2007 7:15:16 am
Re: # 183 it is peace be upon him (PBUH)and it is for all hte prophets
#187 Posted by mahfari on December 8, 2007 7:15:16 am
Re: # 183 it is peace be upon him (PBUH)and it is for all hte prophets
#188 Posted by mahfari on December 8, 2007 7:15:16 am
Re: # 183 it is peace be upon him (PBUH)and it is for all hte prophets
#189 Posted by mahfari on December 8, 2007 7:15:17 am
Re: # 183 it is peace be upon him (PBUH)and it is for all hte prophets
#190 Posted by mahfari on December 8, 2007 7:15:22 am
Re: # 183 it is peace be upon him (PBUH)and it is for all hte prophets
#191 Posted by nasah on December 8, 2007 9:05:30 am
If I may jump in the fray about PBUH -- when I was in elementary school it was the time when we were coming out of the age of flowery language of "Alqab" -- a mile long of baroque ornamental adjectives to the addressee before coming to the point of the letter.
We were told to avoid that old Durbari language for letter writing -- and address the person with their names and may be a "Janab" here and there -- the practice did not go completely out of fashion -- even the British loved to hear from every Indian Gunga Din -- "your most obedient servant" at the end of the letter.
It is time to do the same to PBUH. The use of PBUH is a drag for two reasons -- it interrupts the flow of thought -- it is redundant since the prophets are already in very much peace -- they are definitely not in turmoil -- (their Umma may be) -- that their followers have to wish them peace at every mention of their names.
Mohammed never claimed to be anybody different than a human being -- yet some of us Muslims would like to worship him even more than God -- and Buddha whose insight 2500 years ago saw no place for God in Buddhism's highly ethical culture -- instead is worshipped like a god by his followers -- perhaps there is a worship gene in all man/womankind that compels us to bow our heads to even rats, snakes and monkeys
But no religious followers of any religion hit the ceiling or kill for bad mouthing their prophets except us Muslims -- ever-insecure ever-doubting in the fallibility of our prophet -- we have to constantly protect his reputation by violent means -- with "chooiee to mooiee" kind of absurd senseless sensibilities.
Why?
We were told to avoid that old Durbari language for letter writing -- and address the person with their names and may be a "Janab" here and there -- the practice did not go completely out of fashion -- even the British loved to hear from every Indian Gunga Din -- "your most obedient servant" at the end of the letter.
It is time to do the same to PBUH. The use of PBUH is a drag for two reasons -- it interrupts the flow of thought -- it is redundant since the prophets are already in very much peace -- they are definitely not in turmoil -- (their Umma may be) -- that their followers have to wish them peace at every mention of their names.
Mohammed never claimed to be anybody different than a human being -- yet some of us Muslims would like to worship him even more than God -- and Buddha whose insight 2500 years ago saw no place for God in Buddhism's highly ethical culture -- instead is worshipped like a god by his followers -- perhaps there is a worship gene in all man/womankind that compels us to bow our heads to even rats, snakes and monkeys
But no religious followers of any religion hit the ceiling or kill for bad mouthing their prophets except us Muslims -- ever-insecure ever-doubting in the fallibility of our prophet -- we have to constantly protect his reputation by violent means -- with "chooiee to mooiee" kind of absurd senseless sensibilities.
Why?
#192 Posted by nasah on December 8, 2007 9:09:34 am
For us Muslims the word should be PBUU (peace be upon us) whenever and whereever we mention the word Muslim -- we can surely live with that.
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