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#49 Posted by Mystic on December 5, 2007 9:17:26 am
Pratya Samputada
Pali "paticca-samuppada " the chain, or law, of dependent origination, or the chain of causation—a fundamental concept of Buddhism describing the causes of pain and the course of events that lead a being through rebirth, old age, and death.
Existence is seen as an interrelated flux of phenomenal events, material and psychical, without any real, "permanent", independent existence of their own. These…
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For Buddha, Pratittya Samutpada is the basis of "Samsara" and is one of the "Sats" that humanity must admit. The entire philosophy of Buddhism is based upon the notion of "Samsara" and the cycle of existence that gets unleashed due to karmas and sankalpas. Violence begets its fruits and even Mohamamad must have suffered the fruits of his violent karmas. There is NO intercession by any Allah.
Pakistani situation is a clear example of pratitya samutpada - the hatred of TNT come back to haunt the very proponents. The more Pakistan Islamizes, the more it gets farther from the very philosophy of Buddhism that existed on its soil till it was decimated in typical Islamic genocide.
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I wish & Hope Both Patel (hindu congress )& (Jinnah muslim PML)equally respnsible for TNT get there Prati SAmputada
Gandhi must be smiling being more a jain& Against TNT
Pali "paticca-samuppada " the chain, or law, of dependent origination, or the chain of causation—a fundamental concept of Buddhism describing the causes of pain and the course of events that lead a being through rebirth, old age, and death.
Existence is seen as an interrelated flux of phenomenal events, material and psychical, without any real, "permanent", independent existence of their own. These…
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For Buddha, Pratittya Samutpada is the basis of "Samsara" and is one of the "Sats" that humanity must admit. The entire philosophy of Buddhism is based upon the notion of "Samsara" and the cycle of existence that gets unleashed due to karmas and sankalpas. Violence begets its fruits and even Mohamamad must have suffered the fruits of his violent karmas. There is NO intercession by any Allah.
Pakistani situation is a clear example of pratitya samutpada - the hatred of TNT come back to haunt the very proponents. The more Pakistan Islamizes, the more it gets farther from the very philosophy of Buddhism that existed on its soil till it was decimated in typical Islamic genocide.
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I wish & Hope Both Patel (hindu congress )& (Jinnah muslim PML)equally respnsible for TNT get there Prati SAmputada
Gandhi must be smiling being more a jain& Against TNT
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#50 Posted by laddu on December 5, 2007 9:22:43 am
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#51 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 9:25:16 am
Re: # 43 If you have in deatail the Kitab al Hind of Al beruni , then you will be knowing that in the portion on calender he has calculated the periods of Kalyug, and related periods.
As far as his interest fro mathematics is concerned he measured the cirumference of earth at Nalanda ( the place mentioned and propagated as the desruction point by some persons as an example of destruction of religious places) and hsi measurement is more than 98% correct as comapred to present measurements!
He has written many treatise on the subject of mathematics and he was himslef a great mathmeticain of his times!
it was not Church history, it was histrory of highest standard in those times read the original texts of those times and they will tell that how histroy is written . they did,nt spare any one and all were not official historians and comapring these with church histroy is like comapring apples with turnips!
it was not tradition of civilized people to destroy religious places, but of least civilized ones ,and yes all times had such breeds ! But it was not a rule to be followed.
As to Abrahamic faiths there is great difference between the Quran and other extant texts of sacred nature. take example even in Quran it is mentioned that when Suleman AS (the famous for Hekel-e =Sulemani ) 's forces passed through a jungle the ants said change your path suleman the Great AS's forces come. But when the forces of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be UPon HIm) passed near a nest of doves He peace be upon him said change the path and it was changed and dove nests were kept intact.
In Old Testament there punishment of wiping out for the enemies and they did it in those times but at teh tiem of conquest of Makkah the worst enemies of Muhamamd peace be upon him and Islam were pardoned ! There was a visible cahnge wrought by ideas and messages of Holy prophet peace be upon him and Holy quran and it was there and its impact is still here.
The present bigotry, hatred and violence on the name of Islam and human libverty and freedom is not sanctioned by Islam and Allah's messangers peace be upon them. they are serving theri interests whther it was 9/11 or other related acts of killing innocent people .
The search fro truth is not paved with roses alone, it has thorns of truth andrealities also!
Who were the Sindhi people who welcomed Muhamamd Bin Qasim , why were all the old officials of administrative departemnts were kept intact by Muhamamd Bin Qasim?
why Hindus after his death made hsi idols and worshipped him?
where did Buddhists went after coming of Islam in India? They were never forced . delusionsand illusions are not histroy. it is search for truth and truth nad nothing else ... although it is not always conducive to our personal beliefs and egos!
the greatest test of truth is reason, use it and discern trtuh as sadi by Rumi RA that use light of reason and knowledge and discern from fals and true!
It is not dogma it is a dynamic and ever creative struggle!
As far as his interest fro mathematics is concerned he measured the cirumference of earth at Nalanda ( the place mentioned and propagated as the desruction point by some persons as an example of destruction of religious places) and hsi measurement is more than 98% correct as comapred to present measurements!
He has written many treatise on the subject of mathematics and he was himslef a great mathmeticain of his times!
it was not Church history, it was histrory of highest standard in those times read the original texts of those times and they will tell that how histroy is written . they did,nt spare any one and all were not official historians and comapring these with church histroy is like comapring apples with turnips!
it was not tradition of civilized people to destroy religious places, but of least civilized ones ,and yes all times had such breeds ! But it was not a rule to be followed.
As to Abrahamic faiths there is great difference between the Quran and other extant texts of sacred nature. take example even in Quran it is mentioned that when Suleman AS (the famous for Hekel-e =Sulemani ) 's forces passed through a jungle the ants said change your path suleman the Great AS's forces come. But when the forces of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be UPon HIm) passed near a nest of doves He peace be upon him said change the path and it was changed and dove nests were kept intact.
In Old Testament there punishment of wiping out for the enemies and they did it in those times but at teh tiem of conquest of Makkah the worst enemies of Muhamamd peace be upon him and Islam were pardoned ! There was a visible cahnge wrought by ideas and messages of Holy prophet peace be upon him and Holy quran and it was there and its impact is still here.
The present bigotry, hatred and violence on the name of Islam and human libverty and freedom is not sanctioned by Islam and Allah's messangers peace be upon them. they are serving theri interests whther it was 9/11 or other related acts of killing innocent people .
The search fro truth is not paved with roses alone, it has thorns of truth andrealities also!
Who were the Sindhi people who welcomed Muhamamd Bin Qasim , why were all the old officials of administrative departemnts were kept intact by Muhamamd Bin Qasim?
why Hindus after his death made hsi idols and worshipped him?
where did Buddhists went after coming of Islam in India? They were never forced . delusionsand illusions are not histroy. it is search for truth and truth nad nothing else ... although it is not always conducive to our personal beliefs and egos!
the greatest test of truth is reason, use it and discern trtuh as sadi by Rumi RA that use light of reason and knowledge and discern from fals and true!
It is not dogma it is a dynamic and ever creative struggle!
#52 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 9:25:35 am
Re: # 43 If you have in deatail the Kitab al Hind of Al beruni , then you will be knowing that in the portion on calender he has calculated the periods of Kalyug, and related periods.
As far as his interest fro mathematics is concerned he measured the cirumference of earth at Nalanda ( the place mentioned and propagated as the desruction point by some persons as an example of destruction of religious places) and hsi measurement is more than 98% correct as comapred to present measurements!
He has written many treatise on the subject of mathematics and he was himslef a great mathmeticain of his times!
it was not Church history, it was histrory of highest standard in those times read the original texts of those times and they will tell that how histroy is written . they did,nt spare any one and all were not official historians and comapring these with church histroy is like comapring apples with turnips!
it was not tradition of civilized people to destroy religious places, but of least civilized ones ,and yes all times had such breeds ! But it was not a rule to be followed.
As to Abrahamic faiths there is great difference between the Quran and other extant texts of sacred nature. take example even in Quran it is mentioned that when Suleman AS (the famous for Hekel-e =Sulemani ) 's forces passed through a jungle the ants said change your path suleman the Great AS's forces come. But when the forces of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be UPon HIm) passed near a nest of doves He peace be upon him said change the path and it was changed and dove nests were kept intact.
In Old Testament there punishment of wiping out for the enemies and they did it in those times but at teh tiem of conquest of Makkah the worst enemies of Muhamamd peace be upon him and Islam were pardoned ! There was a visible cahnge wrought by ideas and messages of Holy prophet peace be upon him and Holy quran and it was there and its impact is still here.
The present bigotry, hatred and violence on the name of Islam and human libverty and freedom is not sanctioned by Islam and Allah's messangers peace be upon them. they are serving theri interests whther it was 9/11 or other related acts of killing innocent people .
The search fro truth is not paved with roses alone, it has thorns of truth andrealities also!
Who were the Sindhi people who welcomed Muhamamd Bin Qasim , why were all the old officials of administrative departemnts were kept intact by Muhamamd Bin Qasim?
why Hindus after his death made hsi idols and worshipped him?
where did Buddhists went after coming of Islam in India? They were never forced . delusionsand illusions are not histroy. it is search for truth and truth nad nothing else ... although it is not always conducive to our personal beliefs and egos!
the greatest test of truth is reason, use it and discern trtuh as sadi by Rumi RA that use light of reason and knowledge and discern from fals and true!
It is not dogma it is a dynamic and ever creative struggle!
As far as his interest fro mathematics is concerned he measured the cirumference of earth at Nalanda ( the place mentioned and propagated as the desruction point by some persons as an example of destruction of religious places) and hsi measurement is more than 98% correct as comapred to present measurements!
He has written many treatise on the subject of mathematics and he was himslef a great mathmeticain of his times!
it was not Church history, it was histrory of highest standard in those times read the original texts of those times and they will tell that how histroy is written . they did,nt spare any one and all were not official historians and comapring these with church histroy is like comapring apples with turnips!
it was not tradition of civilized people to destroy religious places, but of least civilized ones ,and yes all times had such breeds ! But it was not a rule to be followed.
As to Abrahamic faiths there is great difference between the Quran and other extant texts of sacred nature. take example even in Quran it is mentioned that when Suleman AS (the famous for Hekel-e =Sulemani ) 's forces passed through a jungle the ants said change your path suleman the Great AS's forces come. But when the forces of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be UPon HIm) passed near a nest of doves He peace be upon him said change the path and it was changed and dove nests were kept intact.
In Old Testament there punishment of wiping out for the enemies and they did it in those times but at teh tiem of conquest of Makkah the worst enemies of Muhamamd peace be upon him and Islam were pardoned ! There was a visible cahnge wrought by ideas and messages of Holy prophet peace be upon him and Holy quran and it was there and its impact is still here.
The present bigotry, hatred and violence on the name of Islam and human libverty and freedom is not sanctioned by Islam and Allah's messangers peace be upon them. they are serving theri interests whther it was 9/11 or other related acts of killing innocent people .
The search fro truth is not paved with roses alone, it has thorns of truth andrealities also!
Who were the Sindhi people who welcomed Muhamamd Bin Qasim , why were all the old officials of administrative departemnts were kept intact by Muhamamd Bin Qasim?
why Hindus after his death made hsi idols and worshipped him?
where did Buddhists went after coming of Islam in India? They were never forced . delusionsand illusions are not histroy. it is search for truth and truth nad nothing else ... although it is not always conducive to our personal beliefs and egos!
the greatest test of truth is reason, use it and discern trtuh as sadi by Rumi RA that use light of reason and knowledge and discern from fals and true!
It is not dogma it is a dynamic and ever creative struggle!
#53 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 9:25:57 am
Re: # 43 If you have in deatail the Kitab al Hind of Al beruni , then you will be knowing that in the portion on calender he has calculated the periods of Kalyug, and related periods.
As far as his interest fro mathematics is concerned he measured the cirumference of earth at Nalanda ( the place mentioned and propagated as the desruction point by some persons as an example of destruction of religious places) and hsi measurement is more than 98% correct as comapred to present measurements!
He has written many treatise on the subject of mathematics and he was himslef a great mathmeticain of his times!
it was not Church history, it was histrory of highest standard in those times read the original texts of those times and they will tell that how histroy is written . they did,nt spare any one and all were not official historians and comapring these with church histroy is like comapring apples with turnips!
it was not tradition of civilized people to destroy religious places, but of least civilized ones ,and yes all times had such breeds ! But it was not a rule to be followed.
As to Abrahamic faiths there is great difference between the Quran and other extant texts of sacred nature. take example even in Quran it is mentioned that when Suleman AS (the famous for Hekel-e =Sulemani ) 's forces passed through a jungle the ants said change your path suleman the Great AS's forces come. But when the forces of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be UPon HIm) passed near a nest of doves He peace be upon him said change the path and it was changed and dove nests were kept intact.
In Old Testament there punishment of wiping out for the enemies and they did it in those times but at teh tiem of conquest of Makkah the worst enemies of Muhamamd peace be upon him and Islam were pardoned ! There was a visible cahnge wrought by ideas and messages of Holy prophet peace be upon him and Holy quran and it was there and its impact is still here.
The present bigotry, hatred and violence on the name of Islam and human libverty and freedom is not sanctioned by Islam and Allah's messangers peace be upon them. they are serving theri interests whther it was 9/11 or other related acts of killing innocent people .
The search fro truth is not paved with roses alone, it has thorns of truth andrealities also!
Who were the Sindhi people who welcomed Muhamamd Bin Qasim , why were all the old officials of administrative departemnts were kept intact by Muhamamd Bin Qasim?
why Hindus after his death made hsi idols and worshipped him?
where did Buddhists went after coming of Islam in India? They were never forced . delusionsand illusions are not histroy. it is search for truth and truth nad nothing else ... although it is not always conducive to our personal beliefs and egos!
the greatest test of truth is reason, use it and discern trtuh as sadi by Rumi RA that use light of reason and knowledge and discern from fals and true!
It is not dogma it is a dynamic and ever creative struggle!
As far as his interest fro mathematics is concerned he measured the cirumference of earth at Nalanda ( the place mentioned and propagated as the desruction point by some persons as an example of destruction of religious places) and hsi measurement is more than 98% correct as comapred to present measurements!
He has written many treatise on the subject of mathematics and he was himslef a great mathmeticain of his times!
it was not Church history, it was histrory of highest standard in those times read the original texts of those times and they will tell that how histroy is written . they did,nt spare any one and all were not official historians and comapring these with church histroy is like comapring apples with turnips!
it was not tradition of civilized people to destroy religious places, but of least civilized ones ,and yes all times had such breeds ! But it was not a rule to be followed.
As to Abrahamic faiths there is great difference between the Quran and other extant texts of sacred nature. take example even in Quran it is mentioned that when Suleman AS (the famous for Hekel-e =Sulemani ) 's forces passed through a jungle the ants said change your path suleman the Great AS's forces come. But when the forces of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be UPon HIm) passed near a nest of doves He peace be upon him said change the path and it was changed and dove nests were kept intact.
In Old Testament there punishment of wiping out for the enemies and they did it in those times but at teh tiem of conquest of Makkah the worst enemies of Muhamamd peace be upon him and Islam were pardoned ! There was a visible cahnge wrought by ideas and messages of Holy prophet peace be upon him and Holy quran and it was there and its impact is still here.
The present bigotry, hatred and violence on the name of Islam and human libverty and freedom is not sanctioned by Islam and Allah's messangers peace be upon them. they are serving theri interests whther it was 9/11 or other related acts of killing innocent people .
The search fro truth is not paved with roses alone, it has thorns of truth andrealities also!
Who were the Sindhi people who welcomed Muhamamd Bin Qasim , why were all the old officials of administrative departemnts were kept intact by Muhamamd Bin Qasim?
why Hindus after his death made hsi idols and worshipped him?
where did Buddhists went after coming of Islam in India? They were never forced . delusionsand illusions are not histroy. it is search for truth and truth nad nothing else ... although it is not always conducive to our personal beliefs and egos!
the greatest test of truth is reason, use it and discern trtuh as sadi by Rumi RA that use light of reason and knowledge and discern from fals and true!
It is not dogma it is a dynamic and ever creative struggle!
#54 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 9:26:17 am
Re: # 43 If you have in deatail the Kitab al Hind of Al beruni , then you will be knowing that in the portion on calender he has calculated the periods of Kalyug, and related periods.
As far as his interest fro mathematics is concerned he measured the cirumference of earth at Nalanda ( the place mentioned and propagated as the desruction point by some persons as an example of destruction of religious places) and hsi measurement is more than 98% correct as comapred to present measurements!
He has written many treatise on the subject of mathematics and he was himslef a great mathmeticain of his times!
it was not Church history, it was histrory of highest standard in those times read the original texts of those times and they will tell that how histroy is written . they did,nt spare any one and all were not official historians and comapring these with church histroy is like comapring apples with turnips!
it was not tradition of civilized people to destroy religious places, but of least civilized ones ,and yes all times had such breeds ! But it was not a rule to be followed.
As to Abrahamic faiths there is great difference between the Quran and other extant texts of sacred nature. take example even in Quran it is mentioned that when Suleman AS (the famous for Hekel-e =Sulemani ) 's forces passed through a jungle the ants said change your path suleman the Great AS's forces come. But when the forces of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be UPon HIm) passed near a nest of doves He peace be upon him said change the path and it was changed and dove nests were kept intact.
In Old Testament there punishment of wiping out for the enemies and they did it in those times but at teh tiem of conquest of Makkah the worst enemies of Muhamamd peace be upon him and Islam were pardoned ! There was a visible cahnge wrought by ideas and messages of Holy prophet peace be upon him and Holy quran and it was there and its impact is still here.
The present bigotry, hatred and violence on the name of Islam and human libverty and freedom is not sanctioned by Islam and Allah's messangers peace be upon them. they are serving theri interests whther it was 9/11 or other related acts of killing innocent people .
The search fro truth is not paved with roses alone, it has thorns of truth andrealities also!
Who were the Sindhi people who welcomed Muhamamd Bin Qasim , why were all the old officials of administrative departemnts were kept intact by Muhamamd Bin Qasim?
why Hindus after his death made hsi idols and worshipped him?
where did Buddhists went after coming of Islam in India? They were never forced . delusionsand illusions are not histroy. it is search for truth and truth nad nothing else ... although it is not always conducive to our personal beliefs and egos!
the greatest test of truth is reason, use it and discern trtuh as sadi by Rumi RA that use light of reason and knowledge and discern from fals and true!
It is not dogma it is a dynamic and ever creative struggle!
As far as his interest fro mathematics is concerned he measured the cirumference of earth at Nalanda ( the place mentioned and propagated as the desruction point by some persons as an example of destruction of religious places) and hsi measurement is more than 98% correct as comapred to present measurements!
He has written many treatise on the subject of mathematics and he was himslef a great mathmeticain of his times!
it was not Church history, it was histrory of highest standard in those times read the original texts of those times and they will tell that how histroy is written . they did,nt spare any one and all were not official historians and comapring these with church histroy is like comapring apples with turnips!
it was not tradition of civilized people to destroy religious places, but of least civilized ones ,and yes all times had such breeds ! But it was not a rule to be followed.
As to Abrahamic faiths there is great difference between the Quran and other extant texts of sacred nature. take example even in Quran it is mentioned that when Suleman AS (the famous for Hekel-e =Sulemani ) 's forces passed through a jungle the ants said change your path suleman the Great AS's forces come. But when the forces of Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be UPon HIm) passed near a nest of doves He peace be upon him said change the path and it was changed and dove nests were kept intact.
In Old Testament there punishment of wiping out for the enemies and they did it in those times but at teh tiem of conquest of Makkah the worst enemies of Muhamamd peace be upon him and Islam were pardoned ! There was a visible cahnge wrought by ideas and messages of Holy prophet peace be upon him and Holy quran and it was there and its impact is still here.
The present bigotry, hatred and violence on the name of Islam and human libverty and freedom is not sanctioned by Islam and Allah's messangers peace be upon them. they are serving theri interests whther it was 9/11 or other related acts of killing innocent people .
The search fro truth is not paved with roses alone, it has thorns of truth andrealities also!
Who were the Sindhi people who welcomed Muhamamd Bin Qasim , why were all the old officials of administrative departemnts were kept intact by Muhamamd Bin Qasim?
why Hindus after his death made hsi idols and worshipped him?
where did Buddhists went after coming of Islam in India? They were never forced . delusionsand illusions are not histroy. it is search for truth and truth nad nothing else ... although it is not always conducive to our personal beliefs and egos!
the greatest test of truth is reason, use it and discern trtuh as sadi by Rumi RA that use light of reason and knowledge and discern from fals and true!
It is not dogma it is a dynamic and ever creative struggle!
#55 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 9:27:54 am
Re: # 50 sorry the interact is ebing sent too many times! not my intention and desire!computer glitch!
#56 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 9:30:39 am
Re: # 50 This shows the belief of followers of Buddha and treats Him as Ultimate Truth which he never asserted or declared! did He ?
#57 Posted by laddu on December 5, 2007 9:31:41 am
Re: # 52
"..( the place mentioned and propagated as the desruction point by some persons as an example of destruction of religious places),..."
How long would momeens act like ostriches??? Read history .read "Tawakat-i-Nasiri"........read Quran and Hadiths like Buddha would have wanted you to read and not like a blind mullah........for god sake and open your eyes to this cult of hate???
"..( the place mentioned and propagated as the desruction point by some persons as an example of destruction of religious places),..."
How long would momeens act like ostriches??? Read history .read "Tawakat-i-Nasiri"........read Quran and Hadiths like Buddha would have wanted you to read and not like a blind mullah........for god sake and open your eyes to this cult of hate???
#58 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 9:37:23 am
Re: # 57 read it carefully within context . dont take words out of context. In histroy nothing is perfect and for Muslims except Prophets peace eb upon them , no one is perfect or innocent. From this fundamental belief flew the tradition of writing truth. Why did Indra Gandhi attacked Golden Temple? Should we say after this that Gandhi destroyed all sikh Gurdewaras! Search truth not incomplete truth! A sporadic example at any place can not become a rule to assert its authenticity. Exceptions do,nt make rules!
The text quoted by you is not to prove this point which you are raising , it aims to show the histroical understanding and importance of place NALANDA as the place of wisdom and its realtionship with knowledge. why did Al Beruni chose this very place? Think and come out of sand Dear Laddu!
The text quoted by you is not to prove this point which you are raising , it aims to show the histroical understanding and importance of place NALANDA as the place of wisdom and its realtionship with knowledge. why did Al Beruni chose this very place? Think and come out of sand Dear Laddu!
#59 Posted by Urstruly on December 5, 2007 9:39:53 am
Dear People!
There is no God but One God. I invite you to recognize Him and thus find your salvation. Let me introduce Him to you. God! There is no God but He, the Living, the Self-subsisting, the Eternal. No slumber can seize Him, nor sleep. All things in heaven and earth are His. Who could intercede in His presence without His permission? He knows what appears in front of (the future or the hidden) and behind (the past and undisclosed) His creatures. Nor can they (His creatures) encompass any knowledge of Him except what he wills. His throne extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them, for He is the Highest and Most Exalted.
God, the Most High, speaks the truth.
There is no God but One God. I invite you to recognize Him and thus find your salvation. Let me introduce Him to you. God! There is no God but He, the Living, the Self-subsisting, the Eternal. No slumber can seize Him, nor sleep. All things in heaven and earth are His. Who could intercede in His presence without His permission? He knows what appears in front of (the future or the hidden) and behind (the past and undisclosed) His creatures. Nor can they (His creatures) encompass any knowledge of Him except what he wills. His throne extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them, for He is the Highest and Most Exalted.
God, the Most High, speaks the truth.
#60 Posted by laddu on December 5, 2007 9:45:10 am
I do not care about Al-Beruni, I only respect and care about the legacy of the great scholar Chandrakirti whose works were probably destroyed by the zealot momeens in the attack on Nalanda!!!
#61 Posted by laddu on December 5, 2007 9:48:42 am
Re: # 59
"God, the Most High, speaks the truth."
But maulavi shaheb isn't your God the "best deceiver."......that means he must be lying as well in order to decive idolators like me....so their goes the credibility of your God about speaking the truths!!!!
"God, the Most High, speaks the truth."
But maulavi shaheb isn't your God the "best deceiver."......that means he must be lying as well in order to decive idolators like me....so their goes the credibility of your God about speaking the truths!!!!
#62 Posted by laddu on December 5, 2007 9:53:11 am
Re: # 58
"The text quoted by you is not to prove this point which you are raising ,"
Despite giving you the source as well as extracts of that Nalanda-genocide by zealot momeens bent upon converting every one and looting and killing kafirs, you act like a typical Islamist denying that the event ever occurred!!
How can you be so blind despite the evidence thrown at you......
"The text quoted by you is not to prove this point which you are raising ,"
Despite giving you the source as well as extracts of that Nalanda-genocide by zealot momeens bent upon converting every one and looting and killing kafirs, you act like a typical Islamist denying that the event ever occurred!!
How can you be so blind despite the evidence thrown at you......
#63 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 9:55:22 am
Re: # 60 Probably ????????? Be certain dear! It were Muslims who secured the old knowledge of ancient folks! scholars are all respectable irrespective of their faith and creed!
there is saying of Holy Prophet peace eb upon him the ink of scholar is sacred tahn blood of hundreds of martyrs! (Hadith) scholars are always great and I am with you on the loss of all teh human heritage lost under wars intentionally or otherwise!
Al_ Beruni save dthe knowledge of Indai, If he was not there , we would have lost glorious record of those times and a real loss to humanity indeed it would have been!
who gave the wolrd Zero, from India , Muslims! Who translated great works of Indian wisdom Muslims in Baghdad, Who preserved and translated indain texts Akbar , who preserved the Ashoka Column in Delhi one of Tughlaq Kings!
And zealots are never momeenens , they are prisoners of theri own delusions, but on the false undestadning of religion!
there is saying of Holy Prophet peace eb upon him the ink of scholar is sacred tahn blood of hundreds of martyrs! (Hadith) scholars are always great and I am with you on the loss of all teh human heritage lost under wars intentionally or otherwise!
Al_ Beruni save dthe knowledge of Indai, If he was not there , we would have lost glorious record of those times and a real loss to humanity indeed it would have been!
who gave the wolrd Zero, from India , Muslims! Who translated great works of Indian wisdom Muslims in Baghdad, Who preserved and translated indain texts Akbar , who preserved the Ashoka Column in Delhi one of Tughlaq Kings!
And zealots are never momeenens , they are prisoners of theri own delusions, but on the false undestadning of religion!
#64 Posted by mahfari on December 5, 2007 9:55:33 am
Re: # 60 Probably ????????? Be certain dear! It were Muslims who secured the old knowledge of ancient folks! scholars are all respectable irrespective of their faith and creed!
there is saying of Holy Prophet peace eb upon him the ink of scholar is sacred tahn blood of hundreds of martyrs! (Hadith) scholars are always great and I am with you on the loss of all teh human heritage lost under wars intentionally or otherwise!
Al_ Beruni save dthe knowledge of Indai, If he was not there , we would have lost glorious record of those times and a real loss to humanity indeed it would have been!
who gave the wolrd Zero, from India , Muslims! Who translated great works of Indian wisdom Muslims in Baghdad, Who preserved and translated indain texts Akbar , who preserved the Ashoka Column in Delhi one of Tughlaq Kings!
And zealots are never momeenens , they are prisoners of theri own delusions, but on the false undestadning of religion!
there is saying of Holy Prophet peace eb upon him the ink of scholar is sacred tahn blood of hundreds of martyrs! (Hadith) scholars are always great and I am with you on the loss of all teh human heritage lost under wars intentionally or otherwise!
Al_ Beruni save dthe knowledge of Indai, If he was not there , we would have lost glorious record of those times and a real loss to humanity indeed it would have been!
who gave the wolrd Zero, from India , Muslims! Who translated great works of Indian wisdom Muslims in Baghdad, Who preserved and translated indain texts Akbar , who preserved the Ashoka Column in Delhi one of Tughlaq Kings!
And zealots are never momeenens , they are prisoners of theri own delusions, but on the false undestadning of religion!
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