mahmood Mahmood November 17, 2007
#161 Posted by laddu on December 6, 2007 9:25:57 pm
Among the 246 poet-authors mentioned in the Thera Gatha, 113 were Brahmins, 70 Kshatriyas. Thus, it is clear that Buddhism had no real opposition in India. In Fact, the kings gave equal protection to both Hinduism and Buddhism. For example, the Gupta empire, although Hindu, gave full protection to Buddhism. So did Harsha’s empire. Lalitaditya, the greatest king of Kashmir, although not a Buddhist, built the largest Vihara for the Buddhists.
#162 Posted by nkg on December 6, 2007 10:44:19 pm
Re: # 137
Conflict/violence was never responsible for invention/creativity. In that respect, mislims, mongals,turks should have contributed large amount to the civilisation. That is not true. Most of the conflicts has occurred in mediaval period and is termed as dark age.
Modern European story was different. The British,French, Portugeese,Spanish monarchy has little to do with invention of Steam Engine,Electricity, Telegraphy and other scientific inventions. The best example was China and India before christ. Without conflict, these two vast nations exchanged ideas and excelled in most of the fields.
Conflict/violence was never responsible for invention/creativity. In that respect, mislims, mongals,turks should have contributed large amount to the civilisation. That is not true. Most of the conflicts has occurred in mediaval period and is termed as dark age.
Modern European story was different. The British,French, Portugeese,Spanish monarchy has little to do with invention of Steam Engine,Electricity, Telegraphy and other scientific inventions. The best example was China and India before christ. Without conflict, these two vast nations exchanged ideas and excelled in most of the fields.
#163 Posted by aslam644 on December 7, 2007 12:37:15 am
Re: # 162
Conflict doesn’t necessarily have to be war, I’m sure first humans were involved in conflict as well, with nature and animals for food and survival.
Btw: some of the great inventions were invented during war. Brits invented radar and jet engine, germans rockets, Americans nuclear technology etc.
Conflict doesn’t necessarily have to be war, I’m sure first humans were involved in conflict as well, with nature and animals for food and survival.
Btw: some of the great inventions were invented during war. Brits invented radar and jet engine, germans rockets, Americans nuclear technology etc.
#164 Posted by majumdar on December 7, 2007 12:46:04 am
Aslam bhai,
(Btw: some of the great inventions were invented during war.)
To name some more.
The Haber process for making ammonia (and urea) was invented to help Germany make explsoives after Chilean nitrate supply was cut off.
Kleenex tissue was first invented as a protective against Chlorine gas in WW-I.
Regards
(Btw: some of the great inventions were invented during war.)
To name some more.
The Haber process for making ammonia (and urea) was invented to help Germany make explsoives after Chilean nitrate supply was cut off.
Kleenex tissue was first invented as a protective against Chlorine gas in WW-I.
Regards
#165 Posted by nkg on December 7, 2007 5:14:17 am
Re: # 164
How many basic inventions were for/due to war? Non much. I will provide list of such inventions. Please look at the Noble list. That will give fair amount of Idea.
Regarding neuclear fission, it was started in German universities. The bomb making was taken up by US. My intention is, how many such inventions are of great influence to humanity today. The basic human nature to perform well, when there intention is good and their state of mind is peaceful. There is a nice comment in Jurasic Park II. Technology and violence are not good bed-fellow.
How many basic inventions were for/due to war? Non much. I will provide list of such inventions. Please look at the Noble list. That will give fair amount of Idea.
Regarding neuclear fission, it was started in German universities. The bomb making was taken up by US. My intention is, how many such inventions are of great influence to humanity today. The basic human nature to perform well, when there intention is good and their state of mind is peaceful. There is a nice comment in Jurasic Park II. Technology and violence are not good bed-fellow.
#166 Posted by tahmed32 on December 7, 2007 5:34:02 am
majumdar bhai: Homo Erectus (cousin-brother to all humans) no doubt had his share of war (having moved from Africa all the way to China) before the species died out. And the only invention over the couple of million years it was around (i.e. between 1-2 million years ago), the only invention this respected cousin could make was a measly sharpened stone.
So, it seems to me that while necessity remains the mother of all invention, maybe being stupid or smart is the father. And war is only a special case.
So, it seems to me that while necessity remains the mother of all invention, maybe being stupid or smart is the father. And war is only a special case.
#167 Posted by aslam644 on December 7, 2007 7:17:50 am
Re: # 165
Buddha’s principles might have been righteous and moral, but real world is cut throat you can’t spend your life sitting under a tree meditating, you have to engage with the world to progress, even AMD and INTEL are involved in a sort of conflict for supremacy.
Buddha’s principles might have been righteous and moral, but real world is cut throat you can’t spend your life sitting under a tree meditating, you have to engage with the world to progress, even AMD and INTEL are involved in a sort of conflict for supremacy.
#168 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 7:28:04 am
Re: # 167All the philosophies and ideas have theri place and age and in his times Buddha's ideas were amazing and they did influence a lot of people ... and for present yes it is a fact their relevance is not as important as it was in past!
There is cut throat competition but the spirit of co-operation is the bases of development and love let us hope to revive that!
There is cut throat competition but the spirit of co-operation is the bases of development and love let us hope to revive that!
#169 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 7:28:07 am
Re: # 167All the philosophies and ideas have theri place and age and in his times Buddha's ideas were amazing and they did influence a lot of people ... and for present yes it is a fact their relevance is not as important as it was in past!
There is cut throat competition but the spirit of co-operation is the bases of development and love let us hope to revive that!
There is cut throat competition but the spirit of co-operation is the bases of development and love let us hope to revive that!
#170 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 7:28:10 am
Re: # 167All the philosophies and ideas have theri place and age and in his times Buddha's ideas were amazing and they did influence a lot of people ... and for present yes it is a fact their relevance is not as important as it was in past!
There is cut throat competition but the spirit of co-operation is the bases of development and love let us hope to revive that!
There is cut throat competition but the spirit of co-operation is the bases of development and love let us hope to revive that!
#171 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 7:28:12 am
Re: # 167All the philosophies and ideas have theri place and age and in his times Buddha's ideas were amazing and they did influence a lot of people ... and for present yes it is a fact their relevance is not as important as it was in past!
There is cut throat competition but the spirit of co-operation is the bases of development and love let us hope to revive that!
There is cut throat competition but the spirit of co-operation is the bases of development and love let us hope to revive that!
#172 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 7:28:14 am
Re: # 167All the philosophies and ideas have theri place and age and in his times Buddha's ideas were amazing and they did influence a lot of people ... and for present yes it is a fact their relevance is not as important as it was in past!
There is cut throat competition but the spirit of co-operation is the bases of development and love let us hope to revive that!
There is cut throat competition but the spirit of co-operation is the bases of development and love let us hope to revive that!
#173 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 8:46:09 am
Re: # 172
An Islamic violent jehadist telling the Japs that Zen and Ahimsa has nothing to do with their progress.
What a joke!!
typical of Pakistanis - every thing they say "must" be in conformity with the Islamic principles (here that of violent Jehadic conflict).
An Islamic violent jehadist telling the Japs that Zen and Ahimsa has nothing to do with their progress.
What a joke!!
typical of Pakistanis - every thing they say "must" be in conformity with the Islamic principles (here that of violent Jehadic conflict).
#174 Posted by Kamath on December 7, 2007 9:19:09 am
Re: # 130 Majumdar
Am I wrong in my understanding that the very special ranking 'PBUH is bestowed only on the prophet of Islam? So why do you call Naqushabandi as Maulana Naqshbandi (pbuh)?
Just a curiosity!
Kamath
Am I wrong in my understanding that the very special ranking 'PBUH is bestowed only on the prophet of Islam? So why do you call Naqushabandi as Maulana Naqshbandi (pbuh)?
Just a curiosity!
Kamath
#175 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 10:08:33 am
Re: # 174
Kamat ji,
Read Quran. Read Hadiths. Study some standard Tafsirs.
You would learn Islam correctly than trying to understand it by reading sugar coated propagandas of "modern" muslims.
Kamat ji,
Read Quran. Read Hadiths. Study some standard Tafsirs.
You would learn Islam correctly than trying to understand it by reading sugar coated propagandas of "modern" muslims.
#176 Posted by mahfari on December 7, 2007 11:43:10 am
Re: # 173well said dear, is only GDP growth rate with highest suicide rate is the development?
What is Jehadist? Do you know its meaning?
What was Arjun doing in the War?
What is Jehadist? Do you know its meaning?
What was Arjun doing in the War?
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