Why the American War on Terror is Failing Miserably

#69 Posted by GT

Nevertheless, it should be emphasized that the present movement has the potential of defeating the army as well as the Taliban types for good.

With what? Banners and slogans? Megaphones perhaps?

Re: # 72

zyxius mian,

.... i didn't 'indirectly' admit that i am not one of them - i admitted it directly ...... and who is responsible for that? ...... you and your jihadi brothers! ..... i was doing fine until you had to go and ruin it for all of us ..... but inspite of all that, i get treated better at us airports than at the islamabad airport where everyone is cutting in front of me while i wait patiently like a civilized white person in a gaggle of smelly natives ....

..... unfortunately, there is nothing i can do about being born with this horrible double condition - islam and brown skin ..... and after seeing the mess michael jackson made out of himself, i am not willing to run the risk of changing my apprearance .....i would change my religion, but all my friends and family are muslims and i also happen to like eid and basant ..... i also don't want to be the the first one under the guillotine at gaddafi stadium when you guys finally take over .......

.... as for mrs hamidm, i would be worried about her if she was not a fan of imran khan - any normal woman would be ...... what i can't understand is her fascination with pansies like hugh grant and tom cruise .... i would have thought that guys like them would appeal more to mullahs and catholic priests .... go figure

#65 - Humsab,

The issue with the point you just made is that Hamidm regularly insults (rather than debate or discuss) Islam, the Prophet (pbuh), and everything Muslim in a most inappropriate way. I think its only fair that he be as respectful of other people's religion as he expects them to be about his wife. And please don't tell me such and such is against Islam because you don't get to insult and abuse a system and then turn to it as a rule book to hold against others. Also, you please re-read some of his older posts in which he has boasted of his wife having been Imrans classmate, not his sisters and also that she has been an immense "fan" of his ever since despite Hamidm's protestations to the contrary.

Laddu, you are such an idiot that you aren't worth more of a response than this. Your past posts clearly reflect your mental level and I'm sorry but I am not willing to stoop to it.

Hamidm,

You are an idiot!
"that's why we have to find and kill the jihadis over there - in iraq, afghanistan, waziristan"

Tell me please who "WE" is...conservative American values would mean that a sand nigger like you would never even have made it to the US. They still do not consider you one of them and you just indirectly admitted that when you said

"i agree with you completely - one more bombing and i might have to move into the cell next to yours in guantanamo"

So you too realize that your status in the US is basically a temporary one which will be easily revoked from you and you will be placed in the same category as those you call Jihadis. Does that not make you realize that they do not consider you part of the "WE"? You must be totally delusional to be arguing what you are.

hamid writes "we don't want to disrupt the football and hockey season now that the lions and the redwings are both doing fairly well ........ "

He wants the cheerful robots (morons) to stay busy with play and distraction, otherwise how would the US elite rob its people blind, make them work multiple jobs and pocket the surplus, and then collect from them for the games and booze that keeps them intellectually numb and cheerfully drugged. Ever been to a game in the US, its more dramabazi than "game", and you should see people making minimum wage dish out $50 dollars for a made in Bangladesh shirt with the logo of their team printed on it.....you want to see the human moron in action, go to a game in the US, nevermind what game, basketball, baseball, football whatever....

Regimentation can be broadly defined to be of two types - political and social. For example the USSR was politically regimented and to a large extent the US is socially regimented. Social regimentation is a tough concept to understand. But examples could be the following - (a) large sections of the US population believing with certainty that Saddam was behind 9/11; (b) Blacks believing with certainty that OJ did not kill his wife and vice-versa for whites; (c) not walking on the grass because a small sign asks you not to, even though you feel like doing so and there is no-one miles around you. (Note that regimentation, as in the examples, need not be 'bad').

I mention regimentation because, the press today is politically regimented in Pakistan while it is socially regimented in India. Yet, inspite of the emergency, the analysis and information provided by the Pakistani press on events in swat etc. is much better than that by the Indian press on Nandigram (and I have read across the board from CPM newspapers to the RSS ones).

From the scarce news filtering in, it seems that a lot of commoners (truck drivers, mosque goers etc.) are getting killed. Shias and Sunnis are at each others throats and intra tribal rivalry seems to be picking up. It is difficult for an outsider like me to figure out what is happening. On one hand zeemax is claiming that this is just the Taliban openning up many fronts. On the other hand Majumdar is suggesting that the army is manipulating the Taliban to do what it wants them to do. HP and Masadi had sort of predicted what Majumdar is saying now, quite a while back. Whatever be the politics, a lot of people are indeed dying. And whatever the politics, this fighting has the potential of stopping the movement for democracy right where it began. The fortcomming election is going to be a farce, but I am talking about the long term.

In the midst of all this gloom, what is a wee bit encouraging is the ongoing politicization of the middle class. Emerging leaders like Imran Khan may grow to dominate a much broader section of the political landscape. Such emergence of new leaders is indeed good. The politicization of small sections of middle-class students is also encouraging. But all this will come to nothing if the civil non-violent resistance against the dictator (=army) comes to a stop. One has to be realistic and concede that this is indeed a very small movement and will go no-where if the movement does not reach the common people like hamidm's cook. Nevertheless, it should be emphasized that the present movement has the potential of defeating the army as well as the Taliban types for good.

zee, dont spread BS ...sikhs are doing just fine in the land of the free and home of the brave...the first sikh lawmakers portrait was unveiled at the capitol recently and turbans will be respected by the tsa.

http://www.sikhcoalition.org/advisories/TSADevelopsNewProcedure.htm

O ctober 17, 2007 (Washington, D.C.) - The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) yesterday announced a new security screening procedure that will apply to all religious head coverings at U.S. airports. The new procedures will go into effect on October 27, 2007. The new procedures, designed to detect non-metallic objects, do not allow a TSA screener to touch a Sikh's turban without cause unless the Sikh traveler gives the screener permission to do so. The change is a direct response to the concerns raised by Sikhs and Sikh organizations, including the Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund (SALDEF), the Sikh Coalition, and UNITED SIKHS over the last two months.

Lets fight against the use of depleted uranium weapons on civilians.

Re: # 65

Zyxius is a dim witted Islamist who cannot argue for a minute on the myths of Islamic cult.
That is why he has to threaten, abuse and foul mouth the apostates of Islam!!

Zyxius ji
You need to re-read hamidm sahib's post. He never said his wife was Imran's classmate. He said his wife was imran's sister's classmate. In any case, it is unbecoming on your part to target her.
Regards

Zyxius ji
You need to re-read hamidm sahib's post. He never said his wife was Imran's classmate. He said his wife was imran's sister's classmate. In any case, it is unbecoming on your part to target her.
Regards

Re: # 62

zyxius mian,

.... i agree with you completely - one more bombing and i might have to move into the cell next to yours in guantanamo ....... that's why we have to find and kill the jihadis over there - in iraq, afghanistan, waziristan, londonistan, swat and mandi bahauddin ........ otherwise we will have to fight them here and that is totally unacceptable - we don't want to disrupt the football and hockey season now that the lions and the redwings are both doing fairly well ........

Hamidm,

I hope your tax dollars do go towards expanding guantanamo because what dimwits like you fail to realize is that the plan includes quarantining all Muslim origin people....just like they did to the Japanese. You think you will be treated any differently because you are a sell-out?

What about how you are treated at the airports when you travel...and don't give me any crap about you not having faced any difficulties because we all know that all Muslim looking, and even Sikh people have are regularly harassed as part of the racial profiling.

You will probably say that this is the price you are willing to pay to be free...but thats because you are an idiot and I would love to see your ass locked up in Guantanamo once the war you have been cheerleading for picks up and moves into that eventuality where all Muslims...including sell outs like you, will be locked up.

Sell out cheerleaders like you would sell your mothers to be white Americans, but too bad for you that you have been born a sand nigger like the rest of us...the way elite America sees it, the mullahs are sand niggers with beards and you are a sand nigger without a beard....that is the extent of the difference they see between you and the Taliban.

You also fail to realize that the War on Terror is not a liberal war, it is a war being supported by the conservatives of the US and conservative US values are White Christian American values that outright reject you Hamidm. You don't even realize that the bullshit you are uttering us total nonsense because you keep saying "WE" when you refer to America but look behind you and see if they consider you part of the "WE". You are most certainly not and the only one who will lose out is you....even your better half may leave you for the comfort of Imran's success while you get thrown away by those same White Christian Americans that you were dying to kiss up to and be part of.

#57,#60 Posted by majumdar,

...what little I know ... Unless of course I am mistaken ...

These are quite accurate prefixes/suffixes to your contentions:)

That FM station is now mobile and constantly on the move. Parachinar conflict is as much sectarian as was Mazar-Sharif !

Tahmed sahib/Zee saheb,

Mahatma Fazlu is spreading his satyagrah thru FM radio if I am not mistaken. Now I am not really an expert either on military matters or on tech, but once you know the frequency of the broadcast, can't you trace back the source and take it out using smart bombs/missiles. Quite fishy that neither Bush or Mush are thinking about. Unless of course I am mistaken about the tech bit.

Regards

Zeemax: Ever seen the "reech ka show"? The unthinking bear puts up a fight, and his master collects the cash. Replace the bear with the maulvis and the master with Musharraf.

These religious types are either in cahoots with Musharraf (as in case of the JI who nabbed Imran Khan for him), or else his unwitting "reech". They have no hope of actually controlling Swat or any inch of land for any length of time without the wish of the government.

I know you dont agree on this - but in due course you will see what I mean.

Good night to all.