Bhaskar Dasgupta November 17, 2007
#33 Posted by masadi on November 19, 2007 9:48:30 am
#32, tahmed's response is typical of apologists for the corporate elite that lay off thousands of workers,and relocate plants all for the sake of extra profits and getting multi-million dollar salaries, and then blame it on "demand and supply" and competition. They make multi billion dollar profits get all kinds of welfare and deals from the government and then rob the little man of whatever little they pay him to start with even though he is responsible for the surplus they pocket....similar excuses were made by the oil companies for robbing us all and pocketing billions in record profits, why don't we see a comparative fall in German auto worker wages which are much higher than in the US, if competition from "automation" in Japan is the reason? Of course tahmed, being the peon of the Western elite will always be on the wrong side of the human equation, for the ultra rich as they suck the blood of the workers, he is similarly stabbing the Pakistani people in the back by trying to legitimize US propaganda of what is best for US ulterior motives (the BB/ Military junta) is best for the common man/woman in Pakistan. Listen to this immoral idiot at your own peril...
#34 Posted by bubba on November 19, 2007 9:55:24 am
For a Pakistani politican, are these numbers true?
Salary & Govt. concessions for a Member of NATIONAL ASSEMBLY (MNA):
Monthly Salary: Rs.120,000 to 200,000
Expense for Constitution per month: Rs.100 ,000
Office expenditure per month: Rs.140,000
Traveling concession (Rs.8 per km): Rs.48,000 (For a visit to Islamabad & return: 6000 km)
Daily BETA during Assembly meets: Rs.500
Charges for 1 class (A/C) in train: Free (For any number of times & All Over PAKISTAN)
Charges for Business Class in flights: Free for 40 trips / year (With wife or P.A.)
Rent for Govt. hostel any where: Free Electricity costs at home:
Free up to 50,000 units
Local phone call charges: Free up to 170,000 calls.
TOTAL expense for a MNA per year: Rs. 32,000,000 (approx.)
TOTAL expense for 5 years: Rs.160,000,000
As such for 534 MNAs, the expense for 5 years comes to Rs.85,440,000,000 (about 9000 crores).
Salary & Govt. concessions for a Member of NATIONAL ASSEMBLY (MNA):
Monthly Salary: Rs.120,000 to 200,000
Expense for Constitution per month: Rs.100 ,000
Office expenditure per month: Rs.140,000
Traveling concession (Rs.8 per km): Rs.48,000 (For a visit to Islamabad & return: 6000 km)
Daily BETA during Assembly meets: Rs.500
Charges for 1 class (A/C) in train: Free (For any number of times & All Over PAKISTAN)
Charges for Business Class in flights: Free for 40 trips / year (With wife or P.A.)
Rent for Govt. hostel any where: Free Electricity costs at home:
Free up to 50,000 units
Local phone call charges: Free up to 170,000 calls.
TOTAL expense for a MNA per year: Rs. 32,000,000 (approx.)
TOTAL expense for 5 years: Rs.160,000,000
As such for 534 MNAs, the expense for 5 years comes to Rs.85,440,000,000 (about 9000 crores).
#35 Posted by bulleya on November 19, 2007 9:56:57 am
...i do not know of any two groups who are worse military strategicians than american politicians and pakistani generals........
......american politicians are the only group in the world who can lose wars with militaris that have budgets of over $400 billion!!.......and pakistani generals are the only ones who have more success inside the country than outside...
.....so what in the world is going to happen when dick cheney puts his head together with pervez musharraf to fight a war against terrorism......
exactly what is happening now.....
......americans have got their butts kicked in iraq and now in afghanistan......they have now realized that instead of getting their own butts kicked, it is better to get pakistani soldiers' killed......
the dutch lose two soldiers in afghanistan and their public is ready to leave afghanistan.....the spaniards have one explosion in spain, and they move out of iraq....the canadians lose twenty soldiers, and their public wants out.....however, pakistanis keep dying on both sides and we are still fighting.....
earth to pakistan:....dick cheney ended up shooting his best friend while hunting.....and pakistanis want to trust him in fighting against millions of afghans......
let the americans fight their own wars.......they have pissed off too much of the world........no need for pakistan to get involved.....
......american politicians are the only group in the world who can lose wars with militaris that have budgets of over $400 billion!!.......and pakistani generals are the only ones who have more success inside the country than outside...
.....so what in the world is going to happen when dick cheney puts his head together with pervez musharraf to fight a war against terrorism......
exactly what is happening now.....
......americans have got their butts kicked in iraq and now in afghanistan......they have now realized that instead of getting their own butts kicked, it is better to get pakistani soldiers' killed......
the dutch lose two soldiers in afghanistan and their public is ready to leave afghanistan.....the spaniards have one explosion in spain, and they move out of iraq....the canadians lose twenty soldiers, and their public wants out.....however, pakistanis keep dying on both sides and we are still fighting.....
earth to pakistan:....dick cheney ended up shooting his best friend while hunting.....and pakistanis want to trust him in fighting against millions of afghans......
let the americans fight their own wars.......they have pissed off too much of the world........no need for pakistan to get involved.....
#37 Posted by zeemax on November 19, 2007 10:46:56 am
Demo outside Pak Embassy in London - 18 Nov:
http://pkpolitics.com/2007/11/18/protest-at-london-embassy-18-november-0 7/
Jemima in response to question as to "why?":
"My children are Pakistani. I have never distanced myself from Pakistan."
Is something brewing up? She would be a nice change anyway!
http://pkpolitics.com/2007/11/18/protest-at-london-embassy-18-november-0 7/
Jemima in response to question as to "why?":
"My children are Pakistani. I have never distanced myself from Pakistan."
Is something brewing up? She would be a nice change anyway!
#38 Posted by rf786 on November 19, 2007 10:51:21 am
Re: # 37
And desis subservience to gora continues....
And desis subservience to gora continues....
#39 Posted by vivek on November 19, 2007 11:15:02 am
Who says the war on terror is failing?
Any war takes time to succeed. Lets not forget, India is fighting against the terrorists for the last 18 years in Kashmir, Israel has been fighting terrorists since its birth. It always takes time to win a war, especially when
your enemy is a spineless, immoral one, who hassles killing innocents.
Besides the primary purpose of the war on terror, is to prevent terrorist attacks on USA soil, which it has till date. In fact on that measure, its been the most successful anti-terrorism drive. India or Israel cant claim the same.
Any war takes time to succeed. Lets not forget, India is fighting against the terrorists for the last 18 years in Kashmir, Israel has been fighting terrorists since its birth. It always takes time to win a war, especially when
your enemy is a spineless, immoral one, who hassles killing innocents.
Besides the primary purpose of the war on terror, is to prevent terrorist attacks on USA soil, which it has till date. In fact on that measure, its been the most successful anti-terrorism drive. India or Israel cant claim the same.
#40 Posted by tahmed32 on November 19, 2007 11:22:25 am
masadi: you claim that i (who has without any ifs and buts opposed the illegal musharraf regime) am backing "the BB/ Military junta". Musharaff loves individuals like you who try to confuse issues by making up convenient "facts" (e.g. the "BB/Military junta)!! That is all I can say.
#41 Posted by tahmed32 on November 19, 2007 11:27:29 am
bubba #34 Interesting set of figures. No doubt a man who can wreck the Supreme Court of a country in order to cling to power is not above trying to corrupt the legislature as well. These are the wages of a sinful dictatorship that a nation pays!!
#42 Posted by tahmed32 on November 19, 2007 11:31:11 am
zeemax #37 I am not surprised that Jemima is committed to Pakistan even after her divorce. She knows that the average Pakistani is one of the most hospitable and generous people on earth - and deserves something better than a rogue general.
#43 Posted by tahmed32 on November 19, 2007 11:32:55 am
bulleye #35 Good effort. You get a C- for Hamidm Mimicry 101.
#44 Posted by Zyxius on November 19, 2007 11:39:53 am
Why do I get the feeling that tahmed32 and Hamidm2 are the same pathetic little person with two personalities that can constantly provide reassurance to one another.
#45 Posted by tahmed32 on November 19, 2007 11:44:49 am
Zyxius: Could this feeling be the result of ConpiracyTheoritis (a dreadful disease caused by the middle east mosquito)? :-)
No, brother (or sister) of mine. I am not Hamidm. I waste enough time as it is on chowk with one nick!!
No, brother (or sister) of mine. I am not Hamidm. I waste enough time as it is on chowk with one nick!!
#46 Posted by aslam644 on November 19, 2007 1:17:26 pm
Re: # 37
Zeemax
It’s that born again muslim imran khan he stays at her house when he’s in London , under the pretext of visiting his boys, who knows they might even share the same bed.
Zeemax
It’s that born again muslim imran khan he stays at her house when he’s in London , under the pretext of visiting his boys, who knows they might even share the same bed.
#47 Posted by mohar11 on November 19, 2007 1:26:47 pm
OK pakis - what's the status on swat now? You got your land back from Taliban yet?
#48 Posted by hamidm2 on November 19, 2007 4:29:58 pm
Re: # 44
zyxius,
.... tahmed and i go back a long ways (on chowk) but we are poles apart ..... as a matter of fact, i used to put him in the same category as the mad mullahs and horrible hindoos until i found out that he was a harmless koranist (one who follows the koran and thinks that hadith and sunnah are camel shit) .......
...... he and i do agree on the fact that america is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere ..... and we both get all teary eyed when the rockets red glare and the the bombs burst in air ....... but that's where our similarities end
happy thanksgiving
p.s. if you search the chowk archives you can get the recipe for the best turkey and fixins - i posted it many years ago .....
zyxius,
.... tahmed and i go back a long ways (on chowk) but we are poles apart ..... as a matter of fact, i used to put him in the same category as the mad mullahs and horrible hindoos until i found out that he was a harmless koranist (one who follows the koran and thinks that hadith and sunnah are camel shit) .......
...... he and i do agree on the fact that america is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere ..... and we both get all teary eyed when the rockets red glare and the the bombs burst in air ....... but that's where our similarities end
happy thanksgiving
p.s. if you search the chowk archives you can get the recipe for the best turkey and fixins - i posted it many years ago .....
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