Hussain Gadehi November 26, 2007
#11 Posted by majumdar on November 27, 2007 8:41:22 pm
Saima,
(It amazes me why chowk staff permitted publication of such a naive and slipshod article on its front page.)
Appalling grammar as well. At least the chowkstaff could have had that corrected.
Regards
(It amazes me why chowk staff permitted publication of such a naive and slipshod article on its front page.)
Appalling grammar as well. At least the chowkstaff could have had that corrected.
Regards
#10 Posted by bjkumar on November 27, 2007 8:41:20 pm
#7 Saima
It is not the job of chowk staff to read - it is that of its editors. And in fairness, one can say that the editors indeed try their very best to do that job once or twice in the blue moon.
It is not the job of chowk staff to read because that would be too much work for them and require them to learn a new skill called reading!
#9 Posted by bjkumar on November 27, 2007 8:41:07 pm
#7 Saima
It is not the job of chowk staff to read - it is that of its editors. And in fairness, one can say that the editors indeed try their very best to do that job once or twice in the blue moon.
It is not the job of chowk staff to read because that would be too much work for them and require them to learn a new skill called reading!
#8 Posted by arjun8 on November 27, 2007 8:34:50 pm
#2 Posted by Urstruly on November 27, 2007 7:00:42 pm
tried in the international court of justice for their crimes against the citizens of Pakisant in East Pakistan
AFAIK, YOUR country, the US of A, hasn't signed on to the ICJ thingy.
tried in the international court of justice for their crimes against the citizens of Pakisant in East Pakistan
AFAIK, YOUR country, the US of A, hasn't signed on to the ICJ thingy.
#7 Posted by saima_gul on November 27, 2007 8:34:15 pm
It amazes me why chowk staff permitted publication of such a naive and slipshod article on its front page. My viewpoint in no way indemnifies praetorianism, but rejects conspiracy based essays.
#6 Posted by bjkumar on November 27, 2007 8:25:26 pm
#2 Posted by Urstruly on November 27, 2007 7:00:42 pm
My dear miaN urstruly, the humiliation that the Pakistani khakis received in 1971 was worse than anything an international trial could ever have inflicted on them. (It made miaN Mushy cry like a girl, if one is to believe his account.) In fact, it was the utter humiliation which drove the khakis to do something they had not done before (or after) – turning power over to the civilian ZAB voluntarily.
Yet it made not the slightest bit of difference over time – the Zia Haque was back in the saddle merely six years later.
The attraction of power is just too great.
After all – starting with the Jinnah (who actively encouraged it) – Pakistan has only believed in the power of violence – and never in compromise! With that solid record of “getting-the-way-through-force�, it is the most natural thing for the khaki institution – which is the most forceful – to look down upon the rest of the institutions who want to do the same but are less strong – and for the army to forever remain eager to reclaim what it firmly believes is its own through the brutality of rule of the jungle!
Whether or not the Mushy actually surrenders power is immaterial. If it is not him, it will be only a matter of time before another dictator will step right into any (possibly) vacated shoes.
My dear miaN urstruly, the humiliation that the Pakistani khakis received in 1971 was worse than anything an international trial could ever have inflicted on them. (It made miaN Mushy cry like a girl, if one is to believe his account.) In fact, it was the utter humiliation which drove the khakis to do something they had not done before (or after) – turning power over to the civilian ZAB voluntarily.
Yet it made not the slightest bit of difference over time – the Zia Haque was back in the saddle merely six years later.
The attraction of power is just too great.
After all – starting with the Jinnah (who actively encouraged it) – Pakistan has only believed in the power of violence – and never in compromise! With that solid record of “getting-the-way-through-force�, it is the most natural thing for the khaki institution – which is the most forceful – to look down upon the rest of the institutions who want to do the same but are less strong – and for the army to forever remain eager to reclaim what it firmly believes is its own through the brutality of rule of the jungle!
Whether or not the Mushy actually surrenders power is immaterial. If it is not him, it will be only a matter of time before another dictator will step right into any (possibly) vacated shoes.
#5 Posted by majumdar on November 27, 2007 8:15:43 pm
HP sain,
Haven't been hearing much action in B'stan these days. What's the matter, the province is quiet now or that faster paced action elsewhere has overshadowed action in B'stan?
If I understand right, southern parts of B'stan have a Baluchi majority, northern parts have a Pushtoon majority, is that right? Is there any bad blood or feeling of comptt between the two?
Where does the political sympathy of B'stan Pathan lie. Is he pro-havayoon like his counterparts in much of NWFP or is he pro-kanjaroon or simply neutral? If pro-havayoon how come he has not joined the insurgency openly like in Swat/W'stan.
And what about the Baloch, he is obviously alienated from Pakistan. But does he support the havayoons in NWFP (enemy of my enemy is my friend) or oppose them ('cos of Baloch-Pushtoon rivalry)?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Haven't been hearing much action in B'stan these days. What's the matter, the province is quiet now or that faster paced action elsewhere has overshadowed action in B'stan?
If I understand right, southern parts of B'stan have a Baluchi majority, northern parts have a Pushtoon majority, is that right? Is there any bad blood or feeling of comptt between the two?
Where does the political sympathy of B'stan Pathan lie. Is he pro-havayoon like his counterparts in much of NWFP or is he pro-kanjaroon or simply neutral? If pro-havayoon how come he has not joined the insurgency openly like in Swat/W'stan.
And what about the Baloch, he is obviously alienated from Pakistan. But does he support the havayoons in NWFP (enemy of my enemy is my friend) or oppose them ('cos of Baloch-Pushtoon rivalry)?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
#4 Posted by Urstruly on November 27, 2007 8:06:40 pm
Re: # 3
Some nura kushti it is where every policeman or fouji that gets cuaght is beheaded on daily basis and fouj spares no effort to bomb school killing hundereds of children at a time. Have you ever headrd prisoners being taken in this nura kushti? No. Fouj just commits the extrjudicial murder right there on the spot. Look at the video in post #1 and see how it is done. Please let go of you commie mindset and think in terms of humanity, fraternity and citizenary.
Some nura kushti it is where every policeman or fouji that gets cuaght is beheaded on daily basis and fouj spares no effort to bomb school killing hundereds of children at a time. Have you ever headrd prisoners being taken in this nura kushti? No. Fouj just commits the extrjudicial murder right there on the spot. Look at the video in post #1 and see how it is done. Please let go of you commie mindset and think in terms of humanity, fraternity and citizenary.
#3 Posted by HP on November 27, 2007 7:50:32 pm
The problems in Waziristan, Swat and Baluchistan are entirely different. Ik laathi say sub ko nahin haanko beta truly.
Baloch would most likely support the army action in Swat and waziristan. The army is fighting (if at all it is fighting- generally it is a fake war- Noora Kushti) the criminals in Swat and Wazistan. In Baluchistan people have legitimate political, economic,nationalist, and humanitarian issues.
Baloch would most likely support the army action in Swat and waziristan. The army is fighting (if at all it is fighting- generally it is a fake war- Noora Kushti) the criminals in Swat and Wazistan. In Baluchistan people have legitimate political, economic,nationalist, and humanitarian issues.
#2 Posted by Urstruly on November 27, 2007 7:00:42 pm
A timely article reminding Pakistanis why fouji haramis and their paltoo kuttas should be sent back to their kennels. As a matter of fact had these m/fs been tried in the international court of justice for their crimes against the citizens of Pakisant in East Pakistan, these rabid dogs would have not dared hurt any other Pakistani again. That encouraged them and now the attrocities of bangladesh are not only being repeated in Baluchistan but also in Waziristan and Sawt as well. And lets not forget the ethnic cleansing that fouj's paltoo MQM unleashed upon the citizens of pakistan in the 10 year civil war of Karachi and Sindh during 80s and 90s. NaPak fouj has become a security risk and a liability for Pakistan than an asset. Civil disobedience, social boycott of military families, and public shaming must be employed to set these harmkhors child killers straight.
#1 Posted by VRV on November 27, 2007 2:43:05 pm
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sMg9Ly9nK0g
This NBC TV footage shows the assasination of Dhaka Uni ppl by the Pak army.
This NBC TV footage shows the assasination of Dhaka Uni ppl by the Pak army.
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