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Feminism Under Veil

Nikhat Rasool December 3, 2007

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#227 Posted by bjkumar on December 23, 2007 9:36:38 pm

Yaar, nature lover, why are you getting mad – fizool meiN!

I only put in one sentence what the vast majority of the readers here think of this writer based on this piece of crap we see here.

In fact, this piece is the worst kind of idiocy that I have seen on this site recently – and as you are well aware, this site gets quite a few of those namoonas!

Now, be fair – I only say that this piece appears to be a product of a wanna-be-but-can-never-be-equal-to-a-man-in-my-mazhab-so-might-as-well-as-make-a -virtue-out-of-mazbooree-and-pronounce-my-slavery-as-emancipation-and-pronounce- myself-a-feminist-if-only-in-my-dreams! That’s all!

Yet I never said that even the worst of the worst pieces of crap (like this piece) does not have its dumb-ass admirers.

By the way, how did YOU like this crappy piece?

If you like it, it’s cool! No big deal! The world is a large tent with a lot of specimens and it accommodates the various size brains wonderfully!

Microscopes, anyone?! Nature is wonderful – that’s why some people love it so much – now that’s a no-brainer!

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#226 Posted by nature_lover on December 23, 2007 3:20:35 pm
BJKumar

All I can say is that you are an instigator and you are full of hate , anger, fake pride and prejudice.

Basically you and others like you on this board are suffering from deep inferiority complex and you have lost your identity and your roots.

I apologise if my words hurt you but please take my criticism in a positive manner and I hope you will do some soul searching and self analysis.

Regards,
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#225 Posted by bjkumar on December 23, 2007 3:55:36 am

Nikhat, let me put it in my own way. I think you are utterly stupid!
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#224 Posted by anil on December 23, 2007 1:20:34 am
Re: # 222

Nikhat beti

You delivered your message very clearly indeed. Good luck in pursuing your dreams. It is important to have a dream, as Martin Luther King Jr. said.
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#223 Posted by Eklavya on December 22, 2007 7:46:37 am
Over all, excellent work, Nikhat. Chowk is a good place to deliver messages.
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#222 Posted by Nikhat on December 22, 2007 4:50:18 am
This is so funny! The corrections,more corrections and more corrections. You really have tried hard to find something to criticize,great! and thanks for giving my article so much of your valuable time. Any how I think I conveyed my message successfully. Thats all I wanted to do. The job is done.
Nikhat Riaz
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#221 Posted by FakirIppi on December 21, 2007 4:50:21 am
Re: # 220 musalman auraton ko mat chher , oayy tum nay phd kia hai english main lalamusa university say,matt mar yeh angrezi , nikhat aik musalman hai , bhai thippar hamari jaan chhor.
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#220 Posted by einsteinwallah on December 21, 2007 4:43:15 am
Nikhat, Nikhat, Nikhat! You sure are screwed up in your head. And here is the proof:

"Why should a Muslim woman be subjugated to the compulsion of a dresscode? Isn’t this restraining her human rights and her freedom of choice?"

I am reproducing verbatim from dictionary.reference.com website the meanings of 5 words (sub·ju·gate, com·pul·sion, re·strain, free·dom and choice). Dont you find any contradiction or contrariness between these 3 words: "subjugate", "compulsion", "restrain" and the phrase "freedom of choice"? (And we have not even mentioned "human rights" yet. That can wait until English lesson #2). Nikhatbaby! You need serious education in English. Unless of course as I said in the beginning: you are totally screwed in your head!

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Entries from dictionary.reference.com follow...
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sub·ju·gate

–verb (used with object), -gat·ed, -gat·ing.
1. to bring under complete control or subjection; conquer; master.
2. to make submissive or subservient; enslave.

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com·pul·sion

–noun
1. the act of compelling; constraint; coercion.
2. the state or condition of being compelled.
3. Psychology. a strong, usually irresistible impulse to perform an act, esp. one that is irrational or contrary to one's will.

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re·strain

tr.v. re·strained, re·strain·ing, re·strains
1a. To hold back or keep in check; control: couldn't restrain the tears.
1b. To hold (a person) back; prevent: restrained them from going.
2. To deprive of freedom or liberty.
3. To limit or restrict.

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free·dom

–noun
1. the state of being free or at liberty rather than in confinement or under physical restraint: He won his freedom after a retrial.
2. exemption from external control, interference, regulation, etc.
3. the power to determine action without restraint.
4. political or national independence.
5. personal liberty, as opposed to bondage or slavery: a slave who bought his freedom.
6. exemption from the presence of anything specified (usually fol. by from): freedom from fear.
7. the absence of or release from ties, obligations, etc.
8. ease or facility of movement or action: to enjoy the freedom of living in the country.
9. frankness of manner or speech.
10. general exemption or immunity: freedom from taxation.
11. the absence of ceremony or reserve.
12. a liberty taken.
13. a particular immunity or privilege enjoyed, as by a city or corporation: freedom to levy taxes.
14. civil liberty, as opposed to subjection to an arbitrary or despotic government.
15. the right to enjoy all the privileges or special rights of citizenship, membership, etc., in a community or the like.
16. the right to frequent, enjoy, or use at will: to have the freedom of a friend's library.
17. Philosophy. the power to exercise choice and make decisions without constraint from within or without; autonomy; self-determination. Compare necessity (def. 7).

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choice
noun, adjective, choic·er, choic·est.

–noun
1. an act or instance of choosing; selection: Her choice of a computer was made after months of research. His parents were not happy with his choice of friends.
2. the right, power, or opportunity to choose; option: The child had no choice about going to school.
3. the person or thing chosen or eligible to be chosen: This book is my choice. He is one of many choices for the award.
4. an alternative: There is another choice.
5. an abundance or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of candidates.
6. something that is preferred or preferable to others; the best part of something: Mare's Nest is the choice in the sixth race.
7. a carefully selected supply: This restaurant has a fine choice of wines.
8. a choice grade of beef.

–adjective
9. worthy of being chosen; excellent; superior.
10. carefully selected: choice words.
11. (in the grading of beef in the U.S.) rated between prime and good.

—Idiom
12. of choice, that is generally preferred: A detached house is still the home of choice.
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#219 Posted by einsteinwallah on December 21, 2007 3:59:52 am
"Among all the prevailing religions Islam is the only religion which addresses not only individuals but society as well. ‘Quran’ gives the infrastructure on which a Muslim state should formulate its family, civil and constitutional laws so that society functions normally and peacefully. And that includes the law of ‘Hijab.’ Does this mean that practicing ‘Hijab’ will enable societies to function peacefully? To some extent yes! Following are some statistics indicating proportional relationship of women’s clothing and incidence of sexual crimes against women."

Really? Have you studied Hinduism? If not how can you say that Islam is the only religion which addresses not only individuals but society as well? All religions address individuals therefore society also. If you have studied Hinduaism then probably you know the famous 4 Sanskirt lines which talk about "karma" and "phal". What makes you think that those lines do not do the job of "addressing" individuals and society much more effectively than any Islamic book? How can one objectively answer such questions?

sou bat ki ek bat. You Islamics are too immersed in your own thing. Which is okay. Everybody does that. But when you down two towers it is not okay. Islam! I give you 1 millenium maximum to diappear from face of earth. Of course now it seems the process has been quickened. Provoke west and you will get nuclear versions of Iraqs and Afghanistans. And good riddance sooner. Your only chance is changing Islam. Make it compatible with rest of humanity. Else be prepared to disappear. Admit it: Islam is not revelations. It is just ravings and rantings of a starved mad man.
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#218 Posted by einsteinwallah on December 21, 2007 3:04:05 am
2 corrections:

"Also are there equivalent data for other western countries."

should read as

"Also are there equivalent data for other western countries?"

"Does not mean rate rapes is any less in Pakistan"

should read as

"Does not mean rape rates are any less in Pakistan"

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#217 Posted by einsteinwallah on December 21, 2007 2:55:42 am
"Another report from the web site of the [Department of Justice] indicates: On a given day in 1994 there were approximately 234,000 offenders convicted of rape or sexual assault. Of the 9,691 male sex offenders released from prisons in 15 States in 1994, 5.3 percent were re-arrested for a new sex crime within 3 years of release."

5.3 percent re-arrest is good or bad? Also are you suggesting dress as cause of recidivism or repeat crime is to be thought as tendency to same crime. When you are serial murderer you tend to repeat same MO. Repeated MO is a tendency of all criminals and normal humans.

So suppose if 5.3 percent humans persist in poking fingers in their anus while defecating even though as a child they were caught doing same and severely punished for doing such naughty thing. Then would you say that it is bad (or is good that percent is so low)? Would you then think that garam masala in their diet is the cause for it? Or is it plain and simple tendency to repeat same pleasure or same bad behaviour?

Also are there equivalent data for other western countries. Try to get data on other western countries. You will fail. Simple because USA gathers this data you are able to find them. Pakistan does not gather data so you will not find equivalent data. Does not mean rate rapes is any less in Pakistan. Objective study of rape rates and its relation to foods, dress, climate, ethnic and cultural background, social attitudes etc is tough.
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#216 Posted by smellthecoffee on December 20, 2007 3:42:24 am
#215 Posted by nkg,

If you take anger, lust etc out of life, what else remains?
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#215 Posted by nkg on December 20, 2007 2:57:58 am
Re: # 214
Oh come on!!! One or two examples does not make a judgement.
The basic elements in animal/fish/egg etc... is the main reason for the excitement ( anger, lust etc...) unless and until you work it out properly...
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#214 Posted by majumdar on December 20, 2007 1:38:10 am
Nkg,

(The next best practice is stop using non-veg food.)

Hitler was a veggie. Buddha was not.

Regards

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#213 Posted by nkg on December 20, 2007 1:24:02 am
Re: # 208
The best way for all this evil is, practice Yoga. There are couple of Asans ( one I know, which is similar to lotus or Padma). You can control yourself. The next best practice is stop using non-veg food.
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#212 Posted by nkg on December 19, 2007 8:38:46 pm
Re: # 197
This is pure sh**. I can not imagine, people still believe in magic/miracle!!!!!!!!! ( Ha ha ha...). In Calcutta, there is a magicin called P C Sirkar. He shows nice miracles (a pitcher which provides unlimited water. He vanshed an entire train from a station). One person, called Mr. Beni Hinn visited Bangalore last year to perform faith healing. Naturally, some RSS/VHP people has tried to disrupt the activity (both these poor Hinn follwers and RSS fellows were weak hearted). RSS was scared that, it will result in conversion. One fellow, has argued nicely. " Our thousands years of old civilisation has to tackle this miracle/magic with violence, then there is some basic flaw in our society. Rather, we fix it first".
A nice event about Lord Ramakrishna Paramahansa. Once, he has declared, that on a particular day he will give people whatever they wants. A large number of people had gathered on that morning. He has uttered only one sentence "You attain pure sence".
http://www.writespirit.net/authors/sri_ramakrishna/gospel_sri_ramakrishna/no-one -can-limit-god/
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