Feminism Under Veil

eklavya, if simple people cannot understand simple things, or differ in the understanding of the purported simplicity, what does that have to do with rocket scientists?

Thanks shoresahib. It does. Your believe in the Quran because it was compiled sooner after Prophet Muhammad's death than were the hadiths. Hope that is right.

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ts, IMHO, there is no such thing as literal or illiteral 'interpreations.' These things were not ever said for the exclusive benefit of rocket scientists, or phd holders. These things were said for the salvation/betterment of simplest of people in the simplest of words.

Now, rocket scientists and phd holders may have other purposes than to simply follow what was clearly told to everyone, and that is a different matter. :)

Kaal bhai,

I support your support of religious freedom, but not your support of cultivating religious differences.

I am quite upset at Jang (our resident sardarji) for not following the traditions of sikkhism.

Like you, I am interested in seeing the so called adherents of certain religions, follow the most literal interpretation of their religion

The Quran was compiled during the reign of Uthman, whereas the hadith were not compiled till 300 years after Muhammad's death. does that answer your question Eklavya?

thanks, ts. I am a supporter of religious freedom, but not sure about those who use religious symbols merely for strategic purposes without fully believing in them... :(

kaal ji,

God bless your kaal heart :)

shoresahib, can please expand a little on "The Quran does not follow the same chain of narration as the Hadith!"

(Abu seems to be asking how does anyone even know Allah made the promise, if you do not believe the source....)

I dont think homosexuality is a sin, but if it is: then I let the following verses be my guide!


Allah Almighty forgives pretty much all sins except idol worshiping and trinity beliefs; "Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin most heinous indeed. (The Noble Quran, 4:48)." Therefore, Islam forms the direct relationship between a Muslim and His Creator Allah Almighty as long as a Muslim believes in One True GOD. There is no middle man between a Muslim and His Creator; "It was We Who Created man, and We know what dark suggestions his soul makes to him: for We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein. (The Noble Quran, 50:16)"

I have no proof that the Quran has not been changed. Maybe it has, but I place my faith in Allah promise to guard it.

Re: # 66

"When you suddenly mutate a choice into a law, all those women who do not follow that choice are suddenly what?" (Shore)

illegal aliens.

There is no surah about Homosexuals.

There are some verses about Qaum e Loot, but they refer to the homosexual rape which like heterosexual rape is reprehensible!

And no, The Quran does not follow the same chain of narration as the Hadith!

you are sorely mistaken!

Shore...Quran started being compiled in the ime of Omer RAW and zaid bin sabit was incharge of that project, Othman RAW added zayr zabar paysh on it so the non arabs can pronounce it n understand like it was suppose to be...but that has nothing to do with the question on hand...my question is simple which u r aoiding..

how is it that you can gleefully accept a book as thick as quran...every single word in it to be accurate and genuine and you don't doubt the the hands thru which we recieved that book..u dont for a second think that ohh maybe the surah about the condemnation of homosexuals is fabricated...u dont question the one single word, sentence in that entire book..n my hatts of 2 u for that..but when the same individuals tell u that Prophet PBUH was in his home and the sister of Ayesha (RAW) walked in ...he head was uncovered..when she left Priophet PBUH said that ayehsa once Muslim women(hindoos n mirazayees neeed not get excited) reach the age of puberty they shouldnt appear in public unless there entire bodies r covered except n then he pointed to the face n hands.....my question is simple....the chain of narration for sahih hadith is the same as Quran n thats why in ahle-sunnah wal jaammh..sunnis that is..we take sahih hadith as authentic as Quran because its absurd to say that Person X delivered a whole book saying that this is what was revealed on Prophet PBUH n we al agree that person X is absolutely honest n correct but when the same person X attributes another saying with Prophet PBUH..we ar up in arms..n hes a liar all of a sudden..i m baffled

shoresahib, you might have discerned a real problem in nikhat's approch. Hijab may be good or bad. Does nikhat wear the Hijab because she has done that good/bad analysis, or is it actually a requirment of her faith (as she sees it)?

If it is merely for an egoistic 'bold public statement' and to stand out as a 'feminist' with no real religious backing, then there could be some real problems, even doctrinally. May be the Quran has something to say on what kind of behavior is to be avoided by a Muslim woman....

Wow....what a Stockholm Syndrome.

Perhaps the author should point out one more benefit of the WONDERFUL Hijab!

If hijab had been worn, the poor child Aqsa would have been alive!

So hijab protects you not only from sexual violence but also murder!

anil ji, any sane person will condemn the murder. We can be sure nikhat does. But she is promoting the hijab as an Islamic obligation (as she interprets it. Or not, nikhat?). Those who oppose the hijab (according to their interpretation) should do that on their own time.