Hammad Siddiqi December 4, 2007
#113 Posted by masanamuthu on December 11, 2007 5:14:43 am
Salim:
Initially it was you who asked me to learn more. But now you are claiming that from what you know "Holy prophet" is a good guy. Do you think you should maybe learn more?. I did not quote any verse either in or out of context so far.
Again teddy bears deserve better than to be named after this violent megalomaniac.
Initially it was you who asked me to learn more. But now you are claiming that from what you know "Holy prophet" is a good guy. Do you think you should maybe learn more?. I did not quote any verse either in or out of context so far.
Again teddy bears deserve better than to be named after this violent megalomaniac.
#114 Posted by anil on December 11, 2007 7:01:50 am
Re: # 111
Salim Sahib:
Do you think Mohammad could have market and sold his message in any other way?
He was a great general, strategician, tactician (few battles he chose to fight and win, marriages and alliances he built), thinker (Quran), marketer (Allah and Messenger - great marketing idea for the time, Steve Jobs pales) and salesman (over billion customers - followers served followers), many ardent ready to give their lives for this package 1400 years later).
In my ranking of men of all times he is among the top.
I do not know of many men / women who can beat this, even if we leave the God and Messenger out and treat him in human terms.
Salim Sahib:
Do you think Mohammad could have market and sold his message in any other way?
He was a great general, strategician, tactician (few battles he chose to fight and win, marriages and alliances he built), thinker (Quran), marketer (Allah and Messenger - great marketing idea for the time, Steve Jobs pales) and salesman (over billion customers - followers served followers), many ardent ready to give their lives for this package 1400 years later).
In my ranking of men of all times he is among the top.
I do not know of many men / women who can beat this, even if we leave the God and Messenger out and treat him in human terms.
#115 Posted by sherbaz on December 11, 2007 11:12:22 am
Majumdar Bhai,
you can anally intrude upon anyone you wish, just make sure you don't do it in Alabama or you're going to the slammer. Once there, don't drop the soap. On second thought, since you've displayed a preference for back yard shenanigans, go ahead and drop it.
you can anally intrude upon anyone you wish, just make sure you don't do it in Alabama or you're going to the slammer. Once there, don't drop the soap. On second thought, since you've displayed a preference for back yard shenanigans, go ahead and drop it.
#116 Posted by Kulharee on December 11, 2007 11:42:36 am
Re #115 Sherbaz, they don’t have cameras mounted in bedrooms to enforce such laws in Alabama. These are old antiquated laws worth no more than a laugh. You want to learn about real retarded laws, read up on Pakistani laws, where, e.g., Ahmadis cannot use Asalama Lakum as a greetings, they can’t call their worship places as Masjid. And now Tamashah Sahib (post # 77) is suggesting they shouldn’t use Mohammad as a name either. We have now been downgraded to below Teddy Bears. You my friend are a product of Zia’s doings, with your head firmly placed inside Wahabi behind and a refusal to see the daylight.
#117 Posted by teshah on December 11, 2007 6:41:14 pm
Re: # 116
You say:
"And now Tamashah Sahib (post # 77) is suggesting they shouldn’t use Mohammad as a name either."
I never suggested that. It is your misconception. I pleaded Ahmadies' case so much that some people have started calling me a Qadiani. Actually it was only a satire you ass.
You say:
"And now Tamashah Sahib (post # 77) is suggesting they shouldn’t use Mohammad as a name either."
I never suggested that. It is your misconception. I pleaded Ahmadies' case so much that some people have started calling me a Qadiani. Actually it was only a satire you ass.
#118 Posted by Kulharee on December 11, 2007 7:01:41 pm
#117 Shah Ji, in that case, I apologize. I knew you were upto something, but I couldn’t really take it in. Yep, me bad. But it was a good idea and an excuse for me to name my kinds as Johny and Bill. Oh well.
#119 Posted by sherbaz on December 12, 2007 1:32:04 pm
#116, kulharee they don't have hidden microphones in Pakistan to see if an Ahmedi says Salaam either. The laws you are talking about in Pakistan are as irrelevant in this day and age as the ones in Alabama and Rhode Island (to name another state)I'm sure you could dredge up some case of an Ahmedi being persecuted via these laws to which I would bring up 1000 cases in rebuttal. I can also tell you at least one case in Rhode Island where a man was arrested for certain peccadiloes he was indulging in. "retarded laws" exist in every country, no country has a monopoly on them.
#120 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 12, 2007 2:06:03 pm
#114 Anil Bhai,
Sorry, I have been incarcerated for a few days and could not post my response to you.
You are giving the Holy Prophet (PBUH) too much credit for his successes. That is exactly the beautiful thing about his life - he was a moderate person in almost every way - father, grandfather, husband, and nephew. He was illiterate, not wealthy, and was neither tall nor short - not at all an imposing figure physically, materially, or even spiritually. He lacked confidence, was very critical of himself, and did not project himself as someone who was sure of himself, firm about where he was headed, and what was the right course of action.
The key differentiators in his life were his extreme honesty and the trances that resulted in transmissions from the Supreme Being.
So the more we understand Mohammed's (PBUH) frailty, his doubts, and his self-effacing honesty, the greater our appreciation for the miracle he achieved - establishment of a truly universal faith united by by One Mankind's belief in the One God.
Sorry, I have been incarcerated for a few days and could not post my response to you.
You are giving the Holy Prophet (PBUH) too much credit for his successes. That is exactly the beautiful thing about his life - he was a moderate person in almost every way - father, grandfather, husband, and nephew. He was illiterate, not wealthy, and was neither tall nor short - not at all an imposing figure physically, materially, or even spiritually. He lacked confidence, was very critical of himself, and did not project himself as someone who was sure of himself, firm about where he was headed, and what was the right course of action.
The key differentiators in his life were his extreme honesty and the trances that resulted in transmissions from the Supreme Being.
So the more we understand Mohammed's (PBUH) frailty, his doubts, and his self-effacing honesty, the greater our appreciation for the miracle he achieved - establishment of a truly universal faith united by by One Mankind's belief in the One God.
#121 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 12, 2007 2:10:10 pm
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Mithu Mian,
Yes, I agree with you that I think I should learn more. :)
My belief in the Holy Prophet(PBUH) and affection for him are by now very well-established and any "new" revelations by authors such as Rushdie, Dante, and Washington Irving will not sway them.
My faith is further reinforced by the yeoman attempts of mortals trying to gain recognition by defiling his name. He must have been some sort of success to cause all this envy.
Mithu Mian,
Yes, I agree with you that I think I should learn more. :)
My belief in the Holy Prophet(PBUH) and affection for him are by now very well-established and any "new" revelations by authors such as Rushdie, Dante, and Washington Irving will not sway them.
My faith is further reinforced by the yeoman attempts of mortals trying to gain recognition by defiling his name. He must have been some sort of success to cause all this envy.
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