Hammad Siddiqi December 4, 2007
#33 Posted by tahmed32 on December 7, 2007 7:02:05 am
laddu bhai: perhaps we should name the teddy "sri hanuman jee". That will teach you!!
#34 Posted by tahmed32 on December 7, 2007 7:09:02 am
hamidm #27 These blasted Paki natives are getting uppity, what!! What is the world coming to, old boy!! Why cant they all be wogs instead, I say!!
#35 Posted by stuka on December 7, 2007 7:13:15 am
"....lest we forger indigenous majority has a right to legislate however there lil heart desire....u can be president of cattle assoc. of america but u better not order steak in mumbai..."
That os a load of crap. A majority does not have the right to legislate away the basic human rights of the minority. So, yes, you can order a steak in Mumbai..which seems to be your pet "beef" about India. You may not get steak at the local dhaba, but you can go to any continental restaurant and order it.
That os a load of crap. A majority does not have the right to legislate away the basic human rights of the minority. So, yes, you can order a steak in Mumbai..which seems to be your pet "beef" about India. You may not get steak at the local dhaba, but you can go to any continental restaurant and order it.
#36 Posted by Dash_Dot on December 7, 2007 7:20:21 am
Re: # 18
abu safwaan man, if the majority really can do what you suggest - then how different are you from Nazis and Hitler, or any of the idiots who wisehd to wipe people of the face of this earth.
BTW I did have a pretty decent steak in many parts of India (bombay, Hyderabad, Delhi, and yes in Varanasi as well), and some great beef curry in Calcutta, Allahabad, Ayodhya. And I am not kidding you about the places, dead serious about it. You really need to get abut a bit more from your comfort zone of the settee)
abu safwaan man, if the majority really can do what you suggest - then how different are you from Nazis and Hitler, or any of the idiots who wisehd to wipe people of the face of this earth.
BTW I did have a pretty decent steak in many parts of India (bombay, Hyderabad, Delhi, and yes in Varanasi as well), and some great beef curry in Calcutta, Allahabad, Ayodhya. And I am not kidding you about the places, dead serious about it. You really need to get abut a bit more from your comfort zone of the settee)
#37 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 7:45:10 am
Re: # 33
I would welcome that......there is even a movie called my friend Ganesha!!
Heck, even I had a dog called Ramu!!
I would welcome that......there is even a movie called my friend Ganesha!!
Heck, even I had a dog called Ramu!!
#38 Posted by stuka on December 7, 2007 7:47:05 am
Actually, Chritians should be bombing Punjab coz most dogs are named after St Thomas of Aquina...Tommy!!
#39 Posted by Urstruly on December 7, 2007 7:59:45 am
Re: # 32
The test is very simple. It is a self test. If you have contempt in your heart for Holy Prophet (pbuh) which is even as small as a grain of sand, you will have contempt for his message too. This criterion is established by Qura'n and Hadith.
To further that criterion, it is self-evident that if you have contempt for Holy prophet (pbuh), you will have contempt for his message, and thus you will have contempt for Allah (swt) and you will have contempt for those who believe in Allah, Prophet (pbuh) and his message.
I am regretful to say that but it is a sad thruth that you and your posts exhibit classic manifestation of this contempt for all of the above, which is a hallmark of a munafique. This in turn is a classic attribute of a Quadiani. If you poke any Quadiani he will burst into open contempt for Prophet (pbuh), thus his message, thus for Allah, and thus for all those who belive in them.
Please mend your ways, its for your own good. Please read some good literature and try to understand how the Great Emancipator (pbuh) has saved us all from ignorance and self-deceit. One has to be quite a low-life not to acknowldge the good of that who saves him.
#40 Posted by Urstruly on December 7, 2007 8:06:23 am
Re: # 31
The answer is yes. This will help you understand how:
http://www.iqra.net/Quran/verses2.html
The answer is yes. This will help you understand how:
http://www.iqra.net/Quran/verses2.html
#41 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 8:09:51 am
These mullah are the biggest " idolators" in the sense of being "an obsessive maniac who confuses description of truth with the truth itself".
They cannot even understand the distinction between the "reality" and the "description of the reality"- the distinction that is between the "Truth" and the "Reference".
For an obsessive maniac confuses between the "description in words" with its "reference"- an conjectures that a "description of reality" would change the "reality".
A Hindu idolator knows the clear distinction between the representation of the deity and the spiritual deity and does not get so obsessed with icons and imagery.
On the other hand the mullahs think that the description of reality would alter the reality itself and then incites every momeen.
They cannot even understand the distinction between the "reality" and the "description of the reality"- the distinction that is between the "Truth" and the "Reference".
For an obsessive maniac confuses between the "description in words" with its "reference"- an conjectures that a "description of reality" would change the "reality".
A Hindu idolator knows the clear distinction between the representation of the deity and the spiritual deity and does not get so obsessed with icons and imagery.
On the other hand the mullahs think that the description of reality would alter the reality itself and then incites every momeen.
#42 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 8:11:37 am
The entire plank of mullah Islam is based upon confusing humans with reference and the description of reference- the idealist confusion between the "truth" and "reality".
#43 Posted by tahmed32 on December 7, 2007 8:22:36 am
Urstruly: the opposite of worshipping the prophet is not contempt for the prophet. and you know that quite well. so dont just make up convenient assumptions.
my ways are based on the Quran, and they are consistent with universally accepted good values - i.e. all humans are equal before God, and we will be judged based on the simple criteria of distinguishing between right and wrong and doing the right thing. I dont need to mend my ways.
your ways are the ones that need mending - making up convenient assumptions (like the example in the first para), replacing the simple message of the Quran with rubbish that violates the fundamentals of the simple and profound message of the Quran (per the second para above) which has written by jahils in past centuries.
my ways are based on the Quran, and they are consistent with universally accepted good values - i.e. all humans are equal before God, and we will be judged based on the simple criteria of distinguishing between right and wrong and doing the right thing. I dont need to mend my ways.
your ways are the ones that need mending - making up convenient assumptions (like the example in the first para), replacing the simple message of the Quran with rubbish that violates the fundamentals of the simple and profound message of the Quran (per the second para above) which has written by jahils in past centuries.
#44 Posted by rf786 on December 7, 2007 8:38:36 am
Dear Writer,
How can you praise that genocidal murderer Omer Al Basher, and that too for commuting a idiotic sentence under his patronage. Had it been some brownie or dark skinned catholic, Omer Al Basher wud have not shown the same compassion.
We Mohammedans enjoy making nobodies into international heroes and in turn bring a religious ideology into dis-repute. Now I wonder why would that be the case? Maybe its the message that is warped? Or, is it some genetic issue?
How can you praise that genocidal murderer Omer Al Basher, and that too for commuting a idiotic sentence under his patronage. Had it been some brownie or dark skinned catholic, Omer Al Basher wud have not shown the same compassion.
We Mohammedans enjoy making nobodies into international heroes and in turn bring a religious ideology into dis-repute. Now I wonder why would that be the case? Maybe its the message that is warped? Or, is it some genetic issue?
#45 Posted by Urstruly on December 7, 2007 8:55:43 am
Re: # 43
GOD DOES NOT LIKE BIG MOUTHs.
As you will see below, God does not like big mouths for the reason that they are stingy. One would wonder how can a big mouth be stingy? This is because a big mouth thinks that it is he himself who knows everything and he refuses to give credit to those who deserve it. Our credit is due to God and to His Prophet. The proof is in La illaha il-Allah o, Mohammad ur Rasoolullah. There is No God but Allah and Mohammad (pbuh) is his prophet. You have to have belief in both otherwise you are munafique and stingy.
Here read and learn
The Iron 57:22-25
Anything that happens on earth, or to you, has already been recorded, even before the creation. This is easy for GOD to do. Thus, you should not grieve over anything you miss, nor be proud of anything He has bestowed upon you. GOD does not love those who are arrogant boasters. They are stingy, and enjoin the people to be stingy. If one turns away, then GOD is the Rich, the Praiseworthy.
We sent our messengers supported by clear proofs, and we sent down to them the scripture and the law, that the people may uphold justice. And we sent down the iron, wherein there is strength, and many benefits for the people. All this in order for GOD to distinguish those who would support Him and His messengers, on faith. GOD is Powerful, Almighty.
GOD DOES NOT LIKE BIG MOUTHs.
As you will see below, God does not like big mouths for the reason that they are stingy. One would wonder how can a big mouth be stingy? This is because a big mouth thinks that it is he himself who knows everything and he refuses to give credit to those who deserve it. Our credit is due to God and to His Prophet. The proof is in La illaha il-Allah o, Mohammad ur Rasoolullah. There is No God but Allah and Mohammad (pbuh) is his prophet. You have to have belief in both otherwise you are munafique and stingy.
Here read and learn
The Iron 57:22-25
Anything that happens on earth, or to you, has already been recorded, even before the creation. This is easy for GOD to do. Thus, you should not grieve over anything you miss, nor be proud of anything He has bestowed upon you. GOD does not love those who are arrogant boasters. They are stingy, and enjoin the people to be stingy. If one turns away, then GOD is the Rich, the Praiseworthy.
We sent our messengers supported by clear proofs, and we sent down to them the scripture and the law, that the people may uphold justice. And we sent down the iron, wherein there is strength, and many benefits for the people. All this in order for GOD to distinguish those who would support Him and His messengers, on faith. GOD is Powerful, Almighty.
#46 Posted by laddu on December 7, 2007 9:06:52 am
Re: # 45
"We sent our messengers supported by clear proofs...."
words like "clear proof", "greatest", "knows all" ..... etc. are all "boasting".
By your logic the message itself is self boasting. You disprove your contention by your own logic!!
"We sent our messengers supported by clear proofs...."
words like "clear proof", "greatest", "knows all" ..... etc. are all "boasting".
By your logic the message itself is self boasting. You disprove your contention by your own logic!!
#47 Posted by tahmed32 on December 7, 2007 9:07:08 am
#45 urstruly: And I assume you are God's personal psychologist who knows about his likes and dislikes. And if you wish to do what God likes, why you are writing in the internet equivalent of a big mouth - in capital letters?
And dont avoid the truth in what I said by hiding behind an irrelevant Quranic verse. If you truly respected the Quran, you would not misuse its words so easily. Mend your ways, like I said.
And dont avoid the truth in what I said by hiding behind an irrelevant Quranic verse. If you truly respected the Quran, you would not misuse its words so easily. Mend your ways, like I said.
#48 Posted by tahmed32 on December 7, 2007 9:08:12 am
#45 urstruly: And I assume you are God's personal psychologist who knows about his likes and dislikes. And if you wish to do what God likes, why you are writing in the internet equivalent of a big mouth - in capital letters?
And dont avoid the truth in what I said by hiding behind an irrelevant Quranic verse. If you truly respected the Quran, you would not misuse its words so easily. Mend your ways, like I said.
And dont avoid the truth in what I said by hiding behind an irrelevant Quranic verse. If you truly respected the Quran, you would not misuse its words so easily. Mend your ways, like I said.
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