6th December 1992

Re: # 84
May be. But let parliament,state assembly etc...decide that. All of us are supposed to be following the principle of democracy.

Re: # 82
If PVN would have imposed 356 on UP Gov. and not allowed the Kar Sevaks to enter the site, the entire matter would have been different. It was quite clear to PVN that, Advani could not control the mob to perform only Kar Seva. People like Sadvi Ritamvara etc... they have no political ambition from this work. Why should they control themselves? Only LK Advani wanted to use this as part of his political gameplan.

Look, every now and then RSS/VHP would have brought the issue. It was difficult for congress to stop the hysteria that time. Open economy and increased opportunity has changed middle class in India. They are now aloof from Ram temple movement. Advani can not create another such movement now.

VRV, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. And I don't deny all the things you mentioned. Still Babri Masjid had to go.

As 4 Liberhan Commission or any Commission, they are (Commission Reports) a little bettar than toilet rolls.

81,

nkg,

No doubt the PVNR and Sangh played cat and mouse but the Sangh made several gashes on India in the whole process. BJP took advantage of the state jurisdiction on law and order. Kalyan Singh did everything in his power to demolish the structure. Advani did everything to gather this monkey brigade around Ayodhya.

As 4 Liberhan Commission or any Commission in India that imnplicates the culprits, they are (Commission Reports) a little bettar than a toilet rolls.

In the whole process:

a. State (country) looked stupid
b. Law and Order facade was torn apart
c. Judiciary was fooled
d. Country lost it's ppl
e. Economy tottered (it just stood on its feet after a huge dent in 1991, where we had to mortgage our gold to Bank of England and borrow heavily from the World Bank)
f. The Repressentation of Peoples Act was made redundant
g. Gullible masses were mobilised for an illegal and unconstitutional act (6/12).

the ONLY entity that gained from the episode is the BJP which increased its tally in the Parliament and state assemblies.

Re: # 71
In fact, PV Narashimha Rao has tried to destroy BJP, by allowing the destruction of structure. It is no loss to India. Moslems and Indians has clashed with each other before Ram temple movement also ( UP, Gujrat, Hubli etc.. was notorious for that). So, another riot is nothing to bother P V N. But once the destructtion is over, the legal autorities will take over the site, and BJP/VHP/RSS people will not be allowed to take up any construction activity. That will prove the failure of BJP. BJP/VHP/RSS in fact expected that, they will come to power one day in the state and centre and change the constitution to build Ram temple. May be as concession will rebuild the mosque in another site. That is not possible, as the matter is under court. So, entire gameplan of BJP backfired and their top leader L K Advani is in constant threat of being implicated by Liberhan commission. Today, if Sonai Gandhi is out of jail and Congress is getting enough breathing space related to Bofors, then it is the policy of PVN to allow the VHP people to destriy the structure. The BMAC is constantly backed by Congress.

Re: # 71
In fact, PV Narashimha Rao has tried to destroy BJP, by allowing the destruction of structure. It is no loss to India. Moslems and Indians has clashed with each other before Ram temple movement also ( UP, Gujrat, Hubli etc.. was notorious for that). So, another riot is nothing to bother P V N. But once the destructtion is over, the legal autorities will take over the site, and BJP/VHP/RSS people will not be allowed to take up any construction activity. That will prove the failure of BJP. BJP/VHP/RSS in fact expected that, they will come to power one day in the state and centre and change the constitution to build Ram temple. May be as concession will rebuild the mosque in another site. That is not possible, as the matter is under court. So, entire gameplan of BJP backfired and their top leader L K Advani is in constant threat of being implicated by Liberhan commission. Today, if Sonai Gandhi is out of jail and Congress is getting enough breathing space related to Bofors, then it is the policy of PVN to allow the VHP people to destriy the structure. The BMAC is constantly backed by Congress.

Idiot Paaki.

I was talking abt some Hindoo fundoos who tomtom abt Bharat Maata but do not mind to milk her. That was the metaphor involved.

For thick skinned and demented Paakis, it's not surprising to see them jump like monkeys in glee.

It's going over ur head. Have some sense indiot Paaki. As I said earlier, u are an ideological eunuch. Lets have this durable duel on UP but not here. So be there u nasal.

#77 VRV

Read #74 once again.

This time you have been caught with your pants down. And the world has noticed the testicular vaccum.

HA HA HA !!!!! LOL!! LOL!!!! ROTFL!!!!

Idiot indian !!!! no principles, no values, only hypocrisy.....

The stalker in question said abt me being a mufukkar (may be a Urdu word with some good meeaning) but I took it as an abuse (mofcukker) & there's an obvious mix-up then.

There's a clear communication gap & this nasal want to vomit the old post to stink the place.

Bugger off.

#74 Posted by okhla99 on December 10, 2007 6:37:37 pm

As for hypocricy, u guys know it better.

Pl don't address any post to me. Hope that helps.

Re: # 70: Jang Sahab "Churri" bagal mein nahiin kalai mein pahnii jaatii hai! Salim is our Chowk's Rafique Zakaria. I wish there were a million more like him.

At any rate interesting to read your adherence to the concept of karma.

#71, VRV/Folio

Why are you talking about "fcukking mother india" again and again????

There used to be a time when you were totally into protecting the "honour" of the mothers of the world.
Your post #475 from December 2006 is reproduced below :


**** I responded to the offesinve meaning it conveyed. No normal human being takes a word that demeans the status of mothers. Woman is the mother of this world. I dont want to hear such words that pulls down the status of mother.

If u think I did it (respond that way) intentionally, yes I admit I did it inorder to uphold a mother`s honour. If u think I am guilty, yes I am, for mother`s sake. Full Stop.
*****



But now you appear to have taken a complete about turn as far as mother's honour is concerned.

So typical of the hypocrite indians........

last line:

'to be' i/o 'to be a'

Jang #70 {"salim besides acting bania, you also seem to have churri up your bagal..i said inspite of our blemishes..that hardly means overlooking them. we will take care of the blemishes with our own karma-based schemes..no excuses"}

Merey Bhai,
Kabhi baghal meN churi, kabhi saleebi khwaab. Kya aapki tabiyaat theek he? Jang, yaar, you have developed a habit for scraping your rusty kirpan against very tender tissue. :) Then all of a sudden you want to acknowledge blemishes, but not as open sores.

Qasmi,

It's not a pan-Hindu or pan-Indian 'US vs Them' thing. The whole 6/12 was 'managed' by the fledgling BJP. This 6/12 pitchforked them to a highest point soon afterwards. Now they cant create another Ayodhya again.

Earlier they tested the ppl of India for a mass movement with Ekatmata Yagna where they took Ganga Jal to all towns in India for a possible mass hysteria. Once they got the result +ve they took up this buried issue i.e Ayodhya, though it's not wrong to say that Rajiv Gandhi dotted the 'i's and crossed the 't's which ultimately worked in BJP's favour.

BJP gained @ nation's expense.

So much 4 their desh bhakti that they didnt mind fcukking Mother India - economically and politcally, though they did it earlier by forcing an election on India when VP Singh was the PM which means a loss of 700 crores (4 conducting Parliemant elections) & what followed the fall of Babri Masjid was the loss of (public and private) property, loss of revenue to GOI & states, loss of productivity (riots & bandhs) and depletion of market capitalisation @ BSE and NSE.

The so called the desh bhakts fuckked Mother India for several thousand crores and what they got in return is power for 5 yrs. It's a LT lesson for India, whilst being a phyrric voctory for BJP/RSS.

It's also wrong to say that AIBMAC and the likes of Syed Shahbuddins didnt help Sangh Parivar in inflating this bubble to the point of a burst.

The Sangh and Millat traded in dead bodies during 1992 and afterwards.

Finally, Dawood Ibrahim turned into an external enemy whereas Advani & Modi became internal enemies of India whilst pretending to be a mothafcukking desh bhakts.