Fundamentalism and Violence

Re: # 78

"hen he decided to enjoy the jolly life......."

No way.......he decided not to have a jolly good life in the Jannah with the 72 houries!! That is actually a hell of a sacrifice!!!

Rashid mian,

What is interesting about the list, if you could elaborate please for the benefit of us Injuns?

Regards

Laughing duo:
Benazir and Nawaz Sharif will participate in elections.
benazir is firing on the shoulder of Awam.
Nawaz Sharif is firing on the shoulder of judges.
The main beneficiary of the exercise will as usual be swiss banks and properties in middle east.

Majumdar: Most interesting thing is Awam will again choose these people who have emptied the cofers during their stint in power. Leaving the people high and dry.

Rashid mian,

(Most interesting thing is Awam will again choose these people who have emptied the cofers during their stint in power. Leaving the people high and dry. )

All I can say is that the best thing under the circumstance is to keep fighting for a better alternative and fight for strengthening institutions which will act as a check on these kleptocrats. Btw, if it is of any satisfaction to you, politicos on our side of the border are (by and large) as big time crooks as yours. I guess we will have to grin and bear it in the meanwhile.

Regards

Islamic fundamentalism, obscurantism are problems in certain ghettoes in Europe but, far more overriding issues are of xenophobia, racism, discrimination.

The evidence from north America is that if you give minorities equal opportunities in jobs, housing, education etc, they tend to integrate, assimilate and inter-marry into the mainstream, just as the jews have done in the US.

Probably that’s asking too much of a continent that kept jews in the ghettoes for centuries and finally annihilated them in gas chambers.

Re: # 77
dear tahmed 32 and khurram...i never said i believe in military dictatorship. i am very much in favour of democracy but i do not agree with theocracy. i would like to keep religion private and have the state following secular laws...secular that has freedom of religion as well as freedom from religion...so that nonbelievers have the same rights as believers.
sincerely sohail

So, you don't have a problem with,
".....if 95 % of people are religious they are going to elect religious leaders" as long as basic human rights are protected by constitution?
Or would you rather wait until they turn 'humanist' before giving them democracy?

Re: # 78
dear category 6...i do not think you are fair to my philosophy and lifestyle. let me share the essence of my journey. i grew up in a muslim family and followed that tradition as a muslim but when i grew older i realized that i am a muslim because i was born in a muslim family and community. i wondered what would have happened if i was born in a hindu, christian, jewish or socialist family. gradually i became a secular humanist and now i am of the opinion that as a human being i have inherited all the religious, spiritual and secular traditions. now i respect followers of all traditions and i hope they respect my philosophy.
i hope i have clarified my philosophy. the final goal of all of us is to become fully human individually and collectively so that we can reduce human suffering and take humanity to the next stage of human evolution where we can find peace in our hearts and harmony with other human beings. in my day to day life as a psychotherapist i help those people who suffer from emotional problems and try my best to relieve their suffering so that they can lead a healthy, happy and peaceful life. do you call that person a humanist or a satanist? sincerely sohail

#87 Dr. Sohail: I dont believe in theocracy either, which is merely another form of dictatorship. Nor do I think even the most fanatical maulvi really cares whether or not you believe in God - all this rubbish about shariah and islamic laws is merely maulvis trying to elbow their way into political power. It is as fake as the talk about "Supreme National Interest" that musharraf used to fake his way into political power.

And the fact is that no one, other than the genuinely retarded, is really fooled by these clowns - maulvis or musharraf.

That is why democracy is so important - people vote for their self-interest. And even if they end up choosing whom they consider to be the lesser of two evils (and individuals seeking political power are generally less than inspiring) - checks and balances limit the damage they can do in a democracy.

Re: # 88
dear khurram...no i do not have a problem if majority of the people choose a religious person who is respectful of human rights of all citizens....including minorities...
women, blacks, gays, lesbians, other religious sects and secular minorities.
an example of such a person was Jimmy Carter of America. he was a Christian but he kept his religion private. That is why now he is critical of Bush as Bush brings his Christianity in the White House. So it is as dependent on the person as on the Constitution and the Laws of the land in which all human beings have equal rights and privileges. Have we come to a mutual agreement now? sincerely sohail
ps..what did you think of category 6's comments about my philosophy?

Re: # 89

Dear Dr. Sohail,

Category6 is actually thinking storm.

So you probably could not tell that the tone of the interact was all a big joke. I mean, who in thier right mind would think of a "smiling satanist"?

Please examine the following:
[Dr. Sohail is working in reverse. He was a muslim who was hellbent on promoting Islam, then he decided to enjoy the jolly life. He quit Islam and became a Satanist, a devious practice which is areligious, and the adherents are taught extensive mind control and smiling techniques.

So there you are. That/'s the whole truth.

smiles.]

I was just kidding and being smart alecky again, apologies if I offended :)

#86 Posted by aslam644 on December 12, 2007 12:47:32 am

In your own country, the united kingdom, non-muslim minorities are doing quite well..hindooos and chinese for example. how do you explain that?

Re: # 92
dear category...sex...you have a good sense of black humour...since i have never been called a 'satanist'..i was a bit puzzled. there were a few chowkies who did not like my secular philosophy but i did not respond to their letters. you like to be smart alecky...i can accept that. you like a little bit of drama..or melodrama...have fun.
affectionately sohail

Re: # 90
dear tahmed 32...so we come to an agreement...we both do not believe in theocracy and would like to see secular humanistic democracy in the world...both are optimistic...one more than the other...smiles...
thank you for sharing your thoughts. it made it all worthwhile...sohail
ps..can you tell me the background of your name tahmed 32?

Paki Muslim Father strangled his daughter because she refused to wear Hijab. MOtheFukka Islamist.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\12\12\story_12-1 2-2007_pg7_9