Fall of Dacca

Re: # 111 i dont know if the articles are wondeful at all or you are being sarcastic my Lord ! However there are some pricks not happy with my ilogs also! Thanks for the feedback sir.

#113 Posted by pavocavalry:

Thank you for posting your articles in your i-log. If you are interested in interacting, then could you please allow for "interactions". You could do so by clicking on some button or the other.

Cheers.

Re: # 114 with utmost respect my humble submission sir is that most of the interacts on this forum are done without reading you from A to Z and just based on criticism for criticism's sake.As a matter of fact there are some self proclaimed champions on this site who think that every one else is just talking nonsense.In case anyone has to interact he can e mail me sir.

Re: # 115 to reinforce my point i give you example of M/s Nikhat 's article on Hijab.Instead of talking logic some interactors used very vulgar language while interacting with her.How do you explain this.I wrote interacts and instead of using logic i was told that i am a lowly major .What kind of intellectual discussion is this ?

#115 Posted by pavocavalry:

You do have a point.

Regards.

#116 Posted by pavocavalry:

There is indeed a tendency to act "top dog", and it is at times tempting to get into a "tu tu mein mein" seies of interacts. Nevertheless, I at times, and I can only speak about myself here, find the process humbling. And I must confess that I have learnt a lot from the interacts ... and have very often been guilty of going straight to the interacts section without reading the article.

amin ji, dash probably, actaully, I am quite sure, means the compliment in #111 sincerely.

Sir, you came here at a time when real ideological opposition to you is absent. Not sure if that is good or bad, but one good consequence has been that people actually got to read a lot of your stuff without being drowned and distracted in irrelevant trivialities.

In welcoming you I had probably mentioned that chowk is essentially an ideological battleground. In this kind of place people use every imaginable rhetorical trick to control, failing which, gladly derail discussions.

Nevertheless, we can only benefit from your presence among us.

Urstruly,

In the last few years, I can't even count the number of times I have destroyed your 'arguments' (lets call them that, instead of ravings) without even bothering to raise a sweat. However, this is really no credit to me since even a child could do so with ease.

FakirIpi, I shall ignore as I ignore all such pathetic people.

Major Sahib,

I understand, if not fully agree with, your extreme reaction to British imperialism in India but I am curious about one thing. You use PAVOCavalry as your nick. PAVO is, of course, Prince Albert Victor's Own Cavalry (11 FF). Given that it, until 1956, wore simply PAVO as its shoulder badge (that's how proud they were of being PAVO), why do you use 'PAVO' as your nom de email? Surely you do not glory in their Imperial affiliation and are not proud of their service in suppressing the Mutiny or their Afghan War battle honours? I assume you were commisioned into PAVO or have a family claim on it but surely this is not enough for you to want to claim its imperial history as your own?

Not being facetious here, I am curious.

In another post I had written that the foreign policy tragedy of Pakistan is not that its governments 'sold out' to the Americans but that they sold out so cheaply! Look at S. Korea, they were completely allied to the US, even sending two infantry divisions and a reinforced Marine brigade to Vietnam, but they extracted a really good price from the Americans for it. Unfortunately for us, we have never had a Park Chung Hee, only Ayubs, Zias and Musharrafs.

"Unfortunately for us, we have never had a Park Chung Hee, only Ayubs, Zias and Musharrafs."

Fuzair Mian Extremely well said. I once mentioned this to a group of Retired and Serving Senior Indian Millitary Officers. "The gr8st threat to India would be a Paki Park Chung Hee".

With the exception of 1 no one had heard of General Park. When 1 explained who was Park then they were so dismissive of Genral Park and said there is no comparison between Korea and India. (Of course there is no comparison India till 1965 was well ahead of Korea in all parameters and indices).

Then the 1 guy who had heard of and actually met Genral Park came and sat next to me and said you see these Chooths well Paki aint very different from us. Do you think these scum will produce a General Park. This person had spent time with the Indian Peace Keepers in Korea then gone back in the mid 60's to be unofficial Defence Attache and then post retirement went to Do his Phd from Korea in the late/end 70's. He had seen General Park (Col Park in the earliest avtar) have a look bordering on reverence towards the Indians (for the Korean war PK role) to one of undisguised contempt for their failure to move millions out of poverty and continue with rheotric most of it meaningless and empty.

Now comes a second part to this. A couple of years later at a Diwali party in Mumbai 1 met a Korean who was the boss of the host a distinguished retired naval commodore. This commodore was the elder brother of one of the Maj Generals who was loudest in cussing me for my remark on Gen Park and was present there. I toasted General Park to the Korean and while his wife frowned angrily the Korean broke into a broad smile and bowed. At this his wife got agitated and loudly cursed him in Korean, the Man also said something in Korean to his wife who immediately looked downcast and sheepish. The host asked his boss what happened and without knowing Korean I told him his wife cursed him for drinking a toast to General Park and I said the man replied without Gen Park we would be as welcome as a North Korean in a party if at all we got invited to 1.

The commodores btother the Maj Gen then closetted the Korean and asked Please tell me about this Gen Park.

Regards
Sanatani
P.S. And may Allah ensure there is never a Pakistani Park Chung Hee

Re: # 121 i am not a perfectionist so contradictions do noy disturb me.in 1857 even after rebelling the sepoys wore their old uniforms and played british tunes.pavocavalry is a contradiction.however we have to admit that regiments were a british institution.

pakistan on the other hand is an undoubted failure.korea was developed well because the threat that the americans faced was far more serious thee and the americans were physically occupying it with their army.thus korean spending on army was very less.korean girls were giving good service to american soldiers.my korean girlfriend told me about this .Inshallah when the us army occupies pakistan physically as planned by musharraf and benazir pakistani spending on its useless army will also go down and pakistan will also become south korea.hopefully as the rulers plan pakistani girls will also play as important a part as their korean counterparts.

Amin sahib,

Pakistan will become another South Korea if the Pakis want to. Not merely because USA or any other country is occupying it. USA is "occupying" A'stan and Iraq and I dont see either country becoming a SK.

But one thing is pretty clear, at least some countries occupied by USA become South Koreas, no countries occupied by Russians ever went on to become another South Korea.

Regards

#123 Posted by pavocavalry,

I see your posts being red-flagged too as being offensive. This is the kind of skill-less lowlifes we have on chowk.

Now to the subject:

Inshallah when the us army occupies pakistan physically as planned by musharraf and benazir pakistani spending on its useless army will also go down and pakistan will also become south korea.hopefully as the rulers plan pakistani girls will also play as important a part as their korean counterparts.

In my assessment, this was the fault line which exploded in the Lal Masjid rebellion.

There was a football match between the Quetta team and the Karachi team right after the Op Silence. Cheerleaders were arranged to dance with pom poms in the stadium, dressed to resemble the US college cheerleadres. I thought this was very significant in musharraf's overall policy direction. For your convenience, I am posting this in the gallery too. In case it is deleted by chowk, the image URL is http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1187/913075687_c48c8e7f98.jpg?v=0

What do you think?

#125 is by Zeemax.

On http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1187/913075687_c48c8e7f98.jpg?v=0 we can see only the torsos of the Pakistani chicks, are they dressed lower down as American cheerleaders, too? That's where the resemblance would be determined.

Muqqadam,

Re: 127

We will swap these wannabe "South Korean" Pakis with our wannabe "North Korean" Injuns- the commies, Arundhati Roy, Media Patkar, Praful Bidwai and the rest of the gang.

Deal???

Regards