Interview: Imran Khan on Elections and Boycott

As you can see tahmed and his chaprasee have again redflagged my post in order to get me banned for my ideas and ideas alone. I hope the chowk staff are smart enough to recognize these dishonest games they play

nasah writes "'Sacrifice' my foot -- the mass murder of poor animals to make God happy -- is a practice of the 14th century barbarian morality -- that has also filtered in Islamist's Jihad as the homicide bombing"

Domesticated animals are raised for food purposes, there would be no "mass" of them were it not for their food value. Meat eating by humans goes back a lot longer than the 14th century dimwit and the practice of sacrificing your wealth to feed the poor, emulating Ibrahim after the Hajj season goes back a lot longer than even the 7th century. Linking that to the modern US war on terror BS about Islamic Jihad is the most outrageous stretch of dishonest propaganda that I have read here to date...

Re: # 32 Posted by bulleya on December 21, 2007 10:38:09 am

[.....imran khan might defeat everyone in a 1-1 race, but he needs to develop a constituency for his party, which is unique........]

There is nothing unique about IK. He is totally with the mullahs, and he is not a winnable politician. He has no political agenda, hence nothing to offer to the country on a wider scale. In a parliamentary system, the party is important. His maverick style to attack mafiaso boss Alt-F for the May 12 carnage in Karachi was admirable, but he could not or he did not achieve anything.

nasah writes "How primitive and aborrhent ...."

Primitive and abhorrent does not describe the supermarket when you go there to buy meat to eat. Ever visited the slaugheter house in America? That is what "primitive and barbaric" looks like. Primitive and barbaric is the meaningless slaughter of of the Bison by the white man to intimidate the natives, leading to its extinction nearly, primitive is not spending your money to ensure the poor get the same kind of food atleast this one season that you are used to year round. Nothing primitive either about the slaughter of animals for food nor in the method of slaughter that is more humane that the BS going on in American slaughter houses...

in #60 read "here merely turns what I write about him "

as "he merely turns what I write about him

tahmed writes "masadi: it is you who is spineless ...."

Once again we get a devoid of substance post from tahmed. here merely turns what I write about him (with facts and proof) around with no substance, arguing at the level of a third grade child..." you the fool, no you the fool...." That is the best we expect from peons of the West. The sacrifice is not the "animal", it is the thought behind sacrificing what you love, giving it to others for helping them, in the way of God. As the Quran says, "neither the blood nor the meat of the animal reaches Allah..." He knows this and he knows the charity aspect behind it but he wants to deliberately use it to cover up the gluttony and shopping high (during thanksgiving and Christmas) of the objects of his worship, the white man and his customs....

Re: # 55

hamidm2 sahib,

Sheikh Rasheed has been instrumental in getting Geo TV back on the air. Its common knowledge that Govt or establishment wanted Geo to part ways with Dr Shahid Masood, but Geo resisted and it was the Sheikh from Pindi who used his good offices to get a reprieve for the dumbass Dr Masood. As a courtesy, Sheikh Sahib appeared in Dr Shahid Masood's first program post emergency, during this interview the Sheikh was frank to the extent of being brash and thats why I love this politician. According to the Sheikh, post election he intends to mend fences with the Sharif's and Maulvi Diesel will play a very important role in the next setup.

Re: # 23 Posted by hamidm2 on December 21, 2007 6:36:00 am

[.... on the other hand aitizaz ahsan might be on to something .....]

Agreed. If he can get the slander lawsuit against Musharraf going. For once, if we could develop a society of slander lawsuits going, we might tone down the huffing and puffing of a lot of Pakistanis, especially the punjabi brand. What do you think?

hamidm: i dont live in pindi anymore, so if sheikh rashid is good for the locals, fine with me.

it is musharraf who is the problem - since he looks to the military for legitimacy, not the people. See his latest statements - claiming he is now stronger because...hold on to your hat...he is in general kiyani's right side!!

hamidm: enjoy the mutton-palau by all means. and announce your enjoyment too. i dont have a problem with that. what i have a problem with is saying this is a "sacrifice". in return for which God will will give you sawaab.

eid mubarak (the tradition - not to be confused with Islam).

Re: # 53

tahmed,

......... sheikh rashid is a real politician because he understands the first law of politics: "all politics is local" .........you obvioulsy don't live in pindi ...

..... however, i am a little concerned that his association with pml-q might do him in this time, specially since he is up against javed hashmi - another good man ........ i wish he could have made up with nawaz sharif, but .... but who knows, if he wins he still might turn lota and join him if he is able to form a government with ppp ....... the people of pindi need him .....

shikh rashid zindabad !

tahmed and nasah,

...... i think both of you are going a little overboard on this one .......... even though i don't like the idea of 'sacrificing' a poor goat at the altar of the moon god, i do enjoy the kaleeji/gurday/kapooray, the tikkas and the grilled lamb chops ........ i guess you could go to the butcher shop and buy all this stuff, but it is not the same ...... there is something fiendisly satisfying about seeing the poor animal lying on the ground with blood gushing out of it slit jugular, making those gurgling death noises, and jerking its legs ........ let's not throw out the only fun part of a rather joyless religion .....

eid mubarak .......

hamidm #50 sheikh rashid may not have run the railways on time...but he did run them off the rails.

masadi: it is you who is spineless (abusing from the safety of the keyboard), and it is you who is the hypocrite (trying to portray the slaughter of animals as being a "sacrifice"), and it is you who is beholden to the US elite (whom you see as being the Almighty force without whose permission a sparrow may not fall). Your obsession with me (devoting post after post to extolling my evilness) would be flattering - if were not such a pathetic individual seeking "to rise to the top" by ranting on chowk!!

#48 nasah: agreed with most of what you write. one thing i should point out though: on animal "sacrifice", no one calls the thanksgiving turkey a "sacrifice". rather, it is considered a "tradition" and no one thinks he is scoring points with God by slaughtering a turkey.

As far as I can tell - in olden times, superstitious people around the world did animal "sacrifices" to appease the gods. Today, muslims are the last people left on earth who still do animal "sacrifices" anymore. Not just maulvis - this practice is widespread in muslim countries. What a disgrace for a people whose religion was once way ahead of its times (those times being the 7th century!!).

a real politician

....... this morning i talked to a dozen friends and family in rawalpindi and am happy to report that every single one of them plans to vote for sheikh rashid even though they are against pml-q and wish he would have stood as an independent ........ when asked why, everyone gave the same simple answer:" he has done a lot for pindi"

........ at the same time they are a little worried that even though he will get elected he might not get a ministership in the new government so that he can fulfill his promises...... "if he is elected he will make sure that the leh expresssway gets built", said one poor guy stuck in traffic at committee chowk an hour after leaving saddar - a journey that used to take ten minutes ten years ago ........"you should have taken rawal road, instead of dreaming about the leh expressway" i heard his wife screaming in the background ...... sheik rashid built rawal road .......

..... compared to sheik rashid, imran khan is a neophyte ..... and the sad part is that most of the people i talked too will tell you that they wish they could vote for imran khan, but they can't - the guy doesn't know what he is doing ....

sheikh rashid zindabad !