Asra Nadeem December 19, 2007
#41 Posted by masadi on December 21, 2007 1:49:32 pm
Anil writes : " am convinced you are dyslexic and reading challenge too. Tahmed sahib corrected and said Khan sahib should be active in politics"
Unlike Anil (and I will spare the expletives for now) who has no clue about what he writes. I know exactly what tahmed said. Reproduced under is a quote from him from 2006 that he recently repeated in our political discussions a few months back as well:
"#37 Posted by tahmed32 on December 26, 2006 5:57:10 am
#36 Good summary. I had the chance a few years ago to listen to Iram Khan speak politics and ask questions. I asked him one question: Given his ability to raise funds as demonstrated by the cancer hospital, why not just work outside the government (rather than wasting his time in politics) to start up more schools and hospitals in Pakistan?
His answer: In Pakistan it is very difficult to get anything done unless you had political power.
That didnt strike me as a particularly straight answer. "
URL: http://www.chowk.com/interacts/11483/1/0/176#304511
Unlike Anil (and I will spare the expletives for now) who has no clue about what he writes. I know exactly what tahmed said. Reproduced under is a quote from him from 2006 that he recently repeated in our political discussions a few months back as well:
"#37 Posted by tahmed32 on December 26, 2006 5:57:10 am
#36 Good summary. I had the chance a few years ago to listen to Iram Khan speak politics and ask questions. I asked him one question: Given his ability to raise funds as demonstrated by the cancer hospital, why not just work outside the government (rather than wasting his time in politics) to start up more schools and hospitals in Pakistan?
His answer: In Pakistan it is very difficult to get anything done unless you had political power.
That didnt strike me as a particularly straight answer. "
URL: http://www.chowk.com/interacts/11483/1/0/176#304511
#42 Posted by anil on December 21, 2007 2:14:48 pm
Re: # 41
Massaddi Mian:
World changes a lot. Read what Tahmed sahib wrote only a few weeks ago.
For you the run is between 7th Century and Mills.
Massaddi Mian:
World changes a lot. Read what Tahmed sahib wrote only a few weeks ago.
For you the run is between 7th Century and Mills.
#43 Posted by anil on December 21, 2007 2:16:15 pm
Re: # 42
Massaddi Mian:
Another possibility is that you may have lost short term memory , or never had one. That can explain Tahmed Sahib issue, and your course between 7th Century and Mills.
Massaddi Mian:
Another possibility is that you may have lost short term memory , or never had one. That can explain Tahmed Sahib issue, and your course between 7th Century and Mills.
#44 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 21, 2007 5:57:22 pm
Re: # 38 Generally what type of salaries expected to get ?
What is average cost to live in big city like Karachi ? The price of living place is so high how a person with no base
can afford bye ?
I am told except IT all others have no great salary.
Thanks
What is average cost to live in big city like Karachi ? The price of living place is so high how a person with no base
can afford bye ?
I am told except IT all others have no great salary.
Thanks
#45 Posted by masadi on December 21, 2007 6:04:03 pm
anil writes "World changes a lot. Read what Tahmed sahib wrote only a few weeks ago"
What he wrote or didn't write is immaterial. His likes and dislikes fluctuate with the desires of the US elite. His ideas about benazir and Musharraf have similarly fluctuated as have his ideas regarding the Mujahideen of the 1980s and the Taliban of the 1990s....The guy is as spineless as they come, you are a very close second...
What he wrote or didn't write is immaterial. His likes and dislikes fluctuate with the desires of the US elite. His ideas about benazir and Musharraf have similarly fluctuated as have his ideas regarding the Mujahideen of the 1980s and the Taliban of the 1990s....The guy is as spineless as they come, you are a very close second...
#46 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 21, 2007 6:05:23 pm
Re: # 44 Basically the prices in Karachi are so high that unless one have place ( parents living ) even with good salary its hard to live with salary which is good. In smaller cities it is possible but why they will accept foreign trained people when they can find people to do same work at very low price. Any little piece of land is like gold. It appears all overworld major cities are making impossible for young nonnative almost impossible economically.
#47 Posted by anil on December 21, 2007 10:22:10 pm
Re: # 45
Massaddi Mian:
At least in this post you are not abusive and finally decided to use illogical logic of your obsession with / theory of Elites. It is good to know that despite your obsession you decide to not involve yourself in abusive language. You do have a great mind, I must say.
Massaddi Mian:
At least in this post you are not abusive and finally decided to use illogical logic of your obsession with / theory of Elites. It is good to know that despite your obsession you decide to not involve yourself in abusive language. You do have a great mind, I must say.
#48 Posted by nasah on December 21, 2007 11:10:00 pm
"masadi: That is a lame bakra of an excuse you make for killing poor animals and calling it sacrifice, i.e. the excuse that you "sacrificed" your money to buy the poor animal. Understand this: you "spend", not "sacrifice", money to buy food!!"(tahmed)
you can say that again -- tahmed.
'Sacrifice' my foot -- the mass murder of poor animals to make God happy -- is a practice of the 14th century barbarian morality -- that has also filtered in Islamist's Jihad as the homicide bombing.
How primitive and aborrhent -- that you can please God by the cruel massacre of God's animals big and small in millions and millions years after years for centiuries.
It is no better than the pagan Americans -- killing millions of Turkeys for their barbaric thanksgiving day every year -- for no thanks to that the blind "Creator" -- who supposedly created America for the red Indians but gave it to the white Americans.
Both thankssgiving and Baqar-e Eid -- are by no means a "happy thanksgiving" or "Happy Eid" -- for the poor animals -- both should be banned in civilized countries as cruelities against animals.
you can say that again -- tahmed.
'Sacrifice' my foot -- the mass murder of poor animals to make God happy -- is a practice of the 14th century barbarian morality -- that has also filtered in Islamist's Jihad as the homicide bombing.
How primitive and aborrhent -- that you can please God by the cruel massacre of God's animals big and small in millions and millions years after years for centiuries.
It is no better than the pagan Americans -- killing millions of Turkeys for their barbaric thanksgiving day every year -- for no thanks to that the blind "Creator" -- who supposedly created America for the red Indians but gave it to the white Americans.
Both thankssgiving and Baqar-e Eid -- are by no means a "happy thanksgiving" or "Happy Eid" -- for the poor animals -- both should be banned in civilized countries as cruelities against animals.
#49 Posted by nasah on December 21, 2007 11:40:05 pm
#48 wrong place.
Imran is a good-hearted principled Samurai -- who would rather commit Hara-Kiri for a principle by killing his principle alongwith himself -- than fight an election.
Imran is a good-hearted principled Samurai -- who would rather commit Hara-Kiri for a principle by killing his principle alongwith himself -- than fight an election.
#50 Posted by hamidm2 on December 22, 2007 7:31:26 am
a real politician
....... this morning i talked to a dozen friends and family in rawalpindi and am happy to report that every single one of them plans to vote for sheikh rashid even though they are against pml-q and wish he would have stood as an independent ........ when asked why, everyone gave the same simple answer:" he has done a lot for pindi"
........ at the same time they are a little worried that even though he will get elected he might not get a ministership in the new government so that he can fulfill his promises...... "if he is elected he will make sure that the leh expresssway gets built", said one poor guy stuck in traffic at committee chowk an hour after leaving saddar - a journey that used to take ten minutes ten years ago ........"you should have taken rawal road, instead of dreaming about the leh expressway" i heard his wife screaming in the background ...... sheik rashid built rawal road .......
..... compared to sheik rashid, imran khan is a neophyte ..... and the sad part is that most of the people i talked too will tell you that they wish they could vote for imran khan, but they can't - the guy doesn't know what he is doing ....
sheikh rashid zindabad !
....... this morning i talked to a dozen friends and family in rawalpindi and am happy to report that every single one of them plans to vote for sheikh rashid even though they are against pml-q and wish he would have stood as an independent ........ when asked why, everyone gave the same simple answer:" he has done a lot for pindi"
........ at the same time they are a little worried that even though he will get elected he might not get a ministership in the new government so that he can fulfill his promises...... "if he is elected he will make sure that the leh expresssway gets built", said one poor guy stuck in traffic at committee chowk an hour after leaving saddar - a journey that used to take ten minutes ten years ago ........"you should have taken rawal road, instead of dreaming about the leh expressway" i heard his wife screaming in the background ...... sheik rashid built rawal road .......
..... compared to sheik rashid, imran khan is a neophyte ..... and the sad part is that most of the people i talked too will tell you that they wish they could vote for imran khan, but they can't - the guy doesn't know what he is doing ....
sheikh rashid zindabad !
#51 Posted by tahmed32 on December 22, 2007 7:56:16 am
#48 nasah: agreed with most of what you write. one thing i should point out though: on animal "sacrifice", no one calls the thanksgiving turkey a "sacrifice". rather, it is considered a "tradition" and no one thinks he is scoring points with God by slaughtering a turkey.
As far as I can tell - in olden times, superstitious people around the world did animal "sacrifices" to appease the gods. Today, muslims are the last people left on earth who still do animal "sacrifices" anymore. Not just maulvis - this practice is widespread in muslim countries. What a disgrace for a people whose religion was once way ahead of its times (those times being the 7th century!!).
As far as I can tell - in olden times, superstitious people around the world did animal "sacrifices" to appease the gods. Today, muslims are the last people left on earth who still do animal "sacrifices" anymore. Not just maulvis - this practice is widespread in muslim countries. What a disgrace for a people whose religion was once way ahead of its times (those times being the 7th century!!).
#52 Posted by tahmed32 on December 22, 2007 8:09:41 am
masadi: it is you who is spineless (abusing from the safety of the keyboard), and it is you who is the hypocrite (trying to portray the slaughter of animals as being a "sacrifice"), and it is you who is beholden to the US elite (whom you see as being the Almighty force without whose permission a sparrow may not fall). Your obsession with me (devoting post after post to extolling my evilness) would be flattering - if were not such a pathetic individual seeking "to rise to the top" by ranting on chowk!!
#53 Posted by tahmed32 on December 22, 2007 8:11:41 am
hamidm #50 sheikh rashid may not have run the railways on time...but he did run them off the rails.
#54 Posted by hamidm2 on December 22, 2007 8:24:41 am
tahmed and nasah,
...... i think both of you are going a little overboard on this one .......... even though i don't like the idea of 'sacrificing' a poor goat at the altar of the moon god, i do enjoy the kaleeji/gurday/kapooray, the tikkas and the grilled lamb chops ........ i guess you could go to the butcher shop and buy all this stuff, but it is not the same ...... there is something fiendisly satisfying about seeing the poor animal lying on the ground with blood gushing out of it slit jugular, making those gurgling death noises, and jerking its legs ........ let's not throw out the only fun part of a rather joyless religion .....
eid mubarak .......
#55 Posted by hamidm2 on December 22, 2007 8:32:00 am
Re: # 53
tahmed,
......... sheikh rashid is a real politician because he understands the first law of politics: "all politics is local" .........you obvioulsy don't live in pindi ...
..... however, i am a little concerned that his association with pml-q might do him in this time, specially since he is up against javed hashmi - another good man ........ i wish he could have made up with nawaz sharif, but .... but who knows, if he wins he still might turn lota and join him if he is able to form a government with ppp ....... the people of pindi need him .....
shikh rashid zindabad !
tahmed,
......... sheikh rashid is a real politician because he understands the first law of politics: "all politics is local" .........you obvioulsy don't live in pindi ...
..... however, i am a little concerned that his association with pml-q might do him in this time, specially since he is up against javed hashmi - another good man ........ i wish he could have made up with nawaz sharif, but .... but who knows, if he wins he still might turn lota and join him if he is able to form a government with ppp ....... the people of pindi need him .....
shikh rashid zindabad !
#56 Posted by tahmed32 on December 22, 2007 9:30:24 am
hamidm: enjoy the mutton-palau by all means. and announce your enjoyment too. i dont have a problem with that. what i have a problem with is saying this is a "sacrifice". in return for which God will will give you sawaab.
eid mubarak (the tradition - not to be confused with Islam).
eid mubarak (the tradition - not to be confused with Islam).
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