The Holiday Season

Re: # 24 tahmed ["...#22 SR: you join pmishra ...in calling a man ...disgusting ..."]

Ahmed sahib please re-read # 22 ... if you still have the same to say to me, then please go see an eye specialist.

...SR

watch them redflag even this post of mine, why you ask? Beacause they are afraid, mortally afraid of someone busting their myths of white supremacy and Western overlordship....

tahmed writes "#19 smellthecoffee: what you write isnt true - hypocrisy is killing and eating an animal and calling it a sacrifice"

Once again the peon of the West's posts are full of fluff and fake sensibilities and little else. The "sacrifice" is not the slaughter part, otherwise every slaughter of animals by Muslims for eating purposes would be defined such. The "sacrifice" refers to the charity part where you sacrifice what you desire for yourself for the sake of God to help the needy.

Of course if a legitmate criticism can be done of the custom that of "waste" which is condemned in the Quran, then we would be all ears but as usual this peon of the West is just trying to cover up the crimes of his masters using his usual fluff...

tahmed writes "#19 smellthecoffee: what you write isnt true - hypocrisy is killing and eating an animal and calling it a sacrifice"

Once again the peon of the West's posts are full of fluff and fake sensibilities and little else. The "sacrifice" is not the slaughter part, otherwise every slaughter of animals by Muslims for eating purposes would be defined such. The "sacrifice" refers to the charity part where you sacrifice what you desire for yourself for the sake of God to help the needy.

Of course if a legitmate criticism can be done of the custom that of "waste" which is condemned in the Quran, then we would be all ears but as usual this peon of the West is just trying to cover up the crimes of his masters using his usual fluff...

Re: # 30

Islam was always into human Qurbanis...........right from the days of profit.

Re #19

"smellthecoffee: what you write isnt true - hypocrisy is killing and eating an animal and calling it a sacrifice ..."

It is a bit like bombing Iraqis ... and callig it democracy.
Long live the King.

Re: # 26 BJ

False... people have been doing this hands-on open air meat harvest for ages - not many have turned veggie... i myself have done that to a number unfortunate roosters... on "holy" occasions of birthdays or what not... :)

Looks like pakis have graduated from animal sacrifice to human sacrifice, on the holy occasion of eid... 50 have been sacrificed by a brave paki islmaic soldier in a mosque in some village in pkailnd...

#26 bjkumar: What about them poor plants? You think the carrots dont start shivering with fear, the kaddus dont start wishing one another sad goodbyes, when a vegetarian steps towards them??

Please see these 'sacrifices' .this is from karachi


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ4uk1DRjFg&feature=related

All Indians please see these 'sacrifices' to the blood thirsty Allah.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=uwDC528uD_M

I am firmly convinced that the vast majority of the world's meat-eating population would turn vegetarian in one second if it were to be involved in a hands-on manner in the basic work necessary to accumulate the ingredients.

Miss Rashid, I'm truly appalled at the untruths you've stated either to please yourself, or your master: Satan.

Have you studied, leave aside compared, translations of the Quran? How old are you, ten, twenty? Time is running out, please come to your senses.

And all of you CHOWKIES who don't know who Ibrahim is, shame on you for abusing and poking fun at a prophet, someone who called himself a Haneef and a Muslim (not Shia or Sunni)! Someone whose first Sunnah was to stand up to a disbelieving father and then take the system head-on. And here we are doing nothing more than offering animal sacrifices!

The same was the case with Jesus who launched an operation cleanup against the homosexuality in the temples and the interest-based money-lending! All prophets were reformers. This is man's classwork on earth about which he will be questioned. Any religion that treats time here as a 'picnic' free from responsibilty is not from God!

And you wrote:'possibly schizophrenic man set out to kill his son, or a day when virgin Mary gave birth to God's illegitimate child'.

I'm afraid, that accusation you'll have to answer yourself before God. Where did you get these ideas from? Salman Rushdie? Hollywood? Quote your sources please. Where did your parents go wrong?

And by the way, God never asked Ibrahim to offer his first-born son as human sacrifice! Then who did?

Dreams come from two sources: God and Satan. The first category is for prophets and pious persons, the second for the weak-willed failthless ones. Only through God's guidance can mankind learn to differentiate. To achieve this, one needs to submit to the Creator and not to the created. The reward is life eternal! The rest is all loitering about in life's CHOWK.

CHOWK is read by impressionable minds who certainly don't need perverted athiestic views from unhappy faithless individuals who frequently stoop to cursing a way that leads to God.

How conveniently have you lumped together all religions as 'preying on people's vulnerability and desire for acceptance'. People prey on people, not God's religion, and which is only one: Islam (complete submission to the will of God).

Please read Muhammad Asad's THE MESSAGE OF THE QUR'AN, or his autobiography (The road to Mecca) to understand a thing or two about Islam.

Peace, little sister.

#22 SR: you join pmishra (who at least has the excuse of being a hindu extremist whose job it is to berate islam and other minority religions in India) in calling a man who lived thousands of year ago a disgusting character? Did you ever meet him, observe his habits, or even merely interact with him on the internet?

If not, then perhaps you need to speak only about stuff you something about.

#19 smellthecoffee: what you write isnt true - hypocrisy is killing and eating an animal and calling it a sacrifice. When meat is eaten and called what it is - i.e. a meal, not a sacrifice - then it is not hypocrisy.

Re: # 9 pmishra ["...Abraham was ... disgusting ...fanatic and all-around hater, ... cults that celebrate him [are] the most violent ..."]

It's not reasonable to say that Ibrahim (Abraham) was a disgusting character. The poor man was only delusional, or maybe even just intoxicated on peyote that grew on those arid mountains slopes. He heard voices and saw visions but he was earnest. If anyone is disgusting its not him, but the lemmings who blindly follow this silly ritual and thik it will take them across pull siraat on the Judgement Day. As far as pull siraat is concerned, its another massive scam. Consider that Almighty Allah could have, if he wanted to, made the bridge in question two feet wide instead of being thinner than a hair and sharper than a sword. By not making it easily passable, it seems that the intention is to stack the odds against the average Joe. One could hardly call it a fair system.

...SR