Aqsa Pervez: The Casualty of Patriarchy

ha ha ha , momin paki army bombing mosques in tribal areas,bhai jan kia yai kafir hain , ham ney suna kay kaafi log in main qadiani or shia hain ?

#27 Posted by Prisoner24601 on December 22, 2007 8:40:28 pm

remember the signs on roadworks: your tax $$s at work..

they should have a sign like that for you on the mass graves of the ninja chix.

#26 "Funny you should say that considering it was your tax $$ that paid for the white phosphorus "

I certainly do not have any control over how the US government uses my tax dollars. But what is truly funny is how you used your own credit card to purchase an ultra sound machine from eBay and shipped it to your family in India...

#24 Posted by Prisoner24601 on December 22, 2007 8:07:34 pm


Again, charity should begin at home.


Funny you should say that considering it was your tax $$ that paid for the white phosphorus that baked the ninja chix..and whacked a bunch of your jihadi brothers..

#23 Posted by Eklavya on December 22, 2007 7:00:51 pm


only androcitrus bias


yup..only my ingrained "androcitrus bias" keeps me from thinking that saudi women think they should be able to drive or think 200 lashes for a rape victim isn't a good idea..

beej: [Tell you what, I shall act...

I denounce abortion here and now...]


Beej, as you perhaps already know, talk is cheap...and cheap talk is not an alternative for action. In the time that it took you to write your "denunciation", dozens of female fetuses were aborted in India. Can you look a dead female fetus in its 'eyes' and say that you only had time to "denounce" its murder, because you were too busy worrying about issues of grown women elsewhere?

Again, charity should begin at home. Let your worries and the full fire power of your rhetoric be wholly dedicated to granting female fetuses in india the right to live and grow into adult women. Until this issue is sufficiently addressed, the hindoo "men" should declare a moratorium on worrying about women's rights elsewhere. What do you say, Beej?

or do you have some skeletons in your closets you want to fess upto?

If those workforce participation rates differ, only androcitrus bias would lead us to blindly assume that Muslim women are unhappy with the situation.

It's at least possible, and perfectly plausible, that Muslim women actually enjoy and excercise their freedom to not participate in the workforce.

#21 Posted by Eklavya on December 22, 2007 4:53:41 pm


chowkid1. Participation in workforce is not the only way for ladies to contribute to their families and their communities.


that post, like all your posts, made no sense at all..

at issue here is the patriarchal structure of muslim society..something that workforce participation numbers clearly reflect...only a muslim in deep denial would say that muslim women have the same workforce participation numbers as hindu or sikh women..

chowkid1. Participation in workforce is not the only way for ladies to contribute to their families and their communities.

Instead of getting caught up in this androcitrus tangle, why not look at the broad picture?

#18 Posted by neembu on December 22, 2007 12:54:40 pm


Why is it necessary to limit patriarchy and androcentricity to only conservative Muslim communities?


yes...take a look at the rate of women's participation in the workforce for any other group..you can't tell me that's not because of "androcentricity" in the muslim community..

Re # 18 Neembusri, where did I say it was necessary? and Desis and moderate Muslims are also included. Now your turn to comment on the article.

Re: # 17

Why, Kunkil? Why is it necessary to limit patriarchy and androcentricity to only conservative Muslim communities? Isn't that a form of intellectual dissemblance?

Instead of coming up with chastity belt and patriarchic theories, just acknowledge that a murderous Muslim male killed his daughter in a rage like it happens every day in Islamic world. Jordan leading the pack of animals in Honor killing (including Israeli administered territories), followed by Egyptians, and Pakistanis not so far behind. Leave the anthropology out of Honor killings condoned by muslim awareness.

Prisoner, you are a captive...

Of your preconceived notions, ignorance, and the inability to see things for what they are.

Tell you what, I shall act...

I denounce abortion here and now...

Now it is your turn...

Denounce the primitive mindset that killed Aqsa Pervez...

Go ahead, show some guts...

Break free from your chains of servitude - which you mistakenly think are your decorative jewels...

Break away now from that eternal ghulaami, the servile mindset...

Do it NOW, if you got any guts. Do it now - or forever remain a slave!

THE prisoner!

The winds of change are blowing through Saudi Arabia, a sex shop in makkah,
Astagfirullah, what next?

ANN Summers, the sex shop and lingerie chain, has been granted permission to open 22 shops in the Middle East, including one in the holy city of Mecca.
The Telegraph has learned that "erotic stock" has already been shipped to Kuwait in preparation for the opening of the first shops in October.The branch in Saudi Arabia will be at the Mecca International Mall. Permission to open the stores was obtained through the company's Kuwait-based franchise, Makae/Top Ten International.
Ann Summers, which has a turnover of more than £53 million a year, will not however be able to sell its range of sex toys in the Middle East, where such goods are illegal. It will restrict the first sales to exotic lingerie, leather goods and PVC bodywear. It hopes to introduce chocolate bodypaints and massage oils later. Other stores are due to open in Dubai, Bahrain, Egypt, Qatar, Abu Dhabi and, possibly, Oman. Twelve are due to open from October, the rest in the New Year.
Noshaba Hussein, a leading member of the Iranian-backed Muslim Parliament of Great Britain, said she would lobby the Foreign Office and the Saudi Arabian ambassador to prevent the opening of the shops. "Who is supposed to buy these products? When Muslims go to the holy city they should only be indulging in prayer," she said.
Only Muslims are allowed to enter Mecca, the holiest city in Islam, where public observance of any other religion is forbidden. Every year, tens of thousands of pilgrims make their way to Mecca and Medina for the Hajj pilgrimage. Mohamed Ayed Alenezi, the chairman of Makae, defended the expansion. "Nice and sexy lingerie is not against Islam," he said.
Some Muslim clerics believe that Islamic married couples are allowed to share an interest in erotic underwear. Ayub Laher, the general secretary of the Bradford Council of Mosques, said that the shops would provide an outlet to explore fantasies: "Islam encourages a man and wife to please each other within the confines of their own homes. Underwear is allowed, massage oils can be part of innocent fun and as long as leather is not made out of pigskin, that is fine too."
The shops will be staffed by men. Senior staff, including Jacqueline Gold, the chief executive of Ann Summers, will be replaced by male executives for the stores' openings.

beej "Prisoner24601, I think abortion should not be allowed. "

think? 20 million aborted female fetuses in india in the last decade and you are still thinking, Beej?

I think its time to quit thinking and start acting, Beej.

and like I said earlier, charity begins at home. So beej, the first thing to do would be to check your backyard and your closets for any skeletons - skeletons of aborted female fetuses, that is.

once you are done doing that, report back to chowk and I will tell you the next steps, Beej.