The Real Issue Facing Pakistan

There are some people who lead a pathetic existence, they sell out their own people as the grovel in front of those they worship for personal benefit. Then as they harm and help kill their own people they try to convince those they are harming (in our case the Pakistanis) that they are "sincere" to them. Tahmed is such a person. He worships unconditionally, the US elite, he was cheerleading for the Iraq war before it began, he was blaming the Hizbullah for last year's Israeli carnage in Lebanon, and in his Iraq war support piece he talks nostaligically about how the "Anglo Saxon Ethos" of the colonizers of India was so great and superior to the Dutch colonizers.

People like him are rejected by his own kind because the people sooner or later realize the spineless nature of these kind of worthless folk, and what is equally pathetic about the existence of such people is that no matter how much they bow and kiss the behind of their "gods", in Tahmed's case, the white elite who have enslaved the world, they are never acceptible to their "gods", they are treated as Horse S*** by the objects of their worship and considered Horse S*** by the people they harm on their behalf...

The fact is that army can be beaten only by another army. This was amply proved by 1971 war in East Pakistan. Even Mujib having all out support of the people would not have possibly succeeded in defeating the Paki army without the support of the Indian Army.

Masadi writes #151-2098 “Jihadis are mere unwitting low level puppets the high level puppets, the boys in uniform are the ones who hop to and used by the real puppet masters, the US elite.”

More BS from this loser peon of Islam. Let me reword his BS to make it more factual:

"Jihadis are mere unwitting low level puppets, the high level puppets, the boys in uniform are the ones who hop to and used by the real puppet masters, the US elite. But what makes them to be so venerable to this asslick is their Arab and Islamic sensibility. Had the bastards (including Mo bi Qus) from the Arabia not come to have brought their filth to North India, things will not be the same.” Down with friggin Arab imperialism and assbackward filthy belief system.”

There, now it is more factual. Without the Arbi Islami connection, the "boys in uniform" would have surrendered to the people of Pakistan in a week or two, as has been their long tradition, like Gia ul Schmuk and Ya Hiya Khan, and Tika Kabab Khan aka butcher of Baluchistan surrendered to the people of Pakistan.

Masadi, what you wrote in Yaseer’s article was beyond despicable, no one expect any thing better from you anyway, but that was really cheap. I wish your dad had lived a bit longer to teach you some manners.

Tahmed or his chaprasee redflagged my post again, can you belive this? They are so mortally afraid of the truth and anything that reveals the ugly face of their masters.

Anyway, in #160 read "the boys in uniform are the ones who hop to and used by the real puppet masters, the US elite"

as "the boys in uniform are the ones who hop to and are used by the real puppet masters, the US elite

tahmed writes "#150 jehadis are mere unwitting puppets. the puppeteer are the same boys in uniform who gave the world..drum roll...the Taliban!!"

More BS from this peon of the West. Let me reword his BS to make it more factual:

"Jihadis are mere unwitting low level puppets, the high level puppets, the boys in uniform are the ones who hop to and used by the real puppet masters, the US elite. The high level puppets (the boys in uniform) used the same structure developed and left by the US elite, that ensured the Mujihideen victory, to give the world...drumroll....the Taliban.

There, now it is more factual. Without US support, the "boys in uniform" would have surrendered to the people of Pakistan in a week or two, as has been their long tradition....

tahmed writes "#150 jehadis are mere unwitting puppets. the puppeteer are the same boys in uniform who gave the world..drum roll...the Taliban!!"

More BS from this peon of the West. Let me reword his BS to make it more factual:

"Jihadis are mere unwitting low level puppets, the high level puppets, the boys in uniform are the ones who hop to and used by the real puppet masters, the US elite. The high level puppets (the boys in uniform) used the same structure developed and left by the US elite, that ensured the Mujihideen victory, to give the world...drumroll....the Taliban.

There, now it is more factual. Without US support, the "boys in uniform" would have surrendered to the people of Pakistan in a week or two, as has been their long tradition....

tahmed writes "HP: You hit the nail on the head!! Lawless military generals have become the biggest danger to Pakistan."

I can see that tahmed and his chaprasee are back so my post like #147, a quite fact based post was redflagged. I hope the chowk staff people understand these shenanigans of peons of the West and the censorship they want to implement around the globe.

That taken care of, Generals, as HP knows well and so do you, are on a lower rung of the problem. What feeds them is on the top most rung and that is the US elite. Their support and use of the Pakistan Army, which is actually a US occupation force indigeneously staffed, is the "nail in the head", but of course being a peon of the West tahmed will always try to mask the barbarism of his masters...

Re: # 154 Posted by hamidm2 on December 26, 2007 3:46:09 pm
[Re: # 151 urstruly, ........ most people like electricity, videos and a clean shave .......]

Are you sure? There could be a whole lot more than what meets your eye. Some people just don't give a hoot about this worldly stuff.

Re: # 155

tahmed,

..... i don't discuss pollution, global warming and the mating habits of the boll weevil ! ....... i beleive that like the usa, china will figure out how to maintain a balance ..... twenty five years ago, you could not swim in most of the great lakes and the tree huggers were going nuts over the dead fish - today you can drink out of them without a problem .........

Hamidm: agree though that the Chinese emergence is perhaps the most positive development in recent years.

The issue though no longer is cherys vs chevys. it is whether mankind chokes in the mess it has created in its own pool, or gets its act together in time and survives. even the neo-cons clowns like gingrich have figured this out - gingrich has a new book out on the environment - and true to form has changed history to make Bush and large companies appear as te environmentalist and the democrats as the polluters!!

Re: # 151

urstruly,

.... you remind me of the proverbial cat dreaming of scraps from the butcher ....... dream on ! ....... the fact of the matter is that even the most lowly fauji knows that there is no future with the cave dwelling jihadis ........ most people like electricity, videos and a clean shave .......

#150 jehadis are mere unwitting puppets. the puppeteer are the same boys in uniform who gave the world..drum roll...the Taliban!!

HP: You hit the nail on the head!! Lawless military generals have become the biggest danger to Pakistan.

Re: # 142 Pavocavalry


Waziristan may be the testing area to impose US's neo-colonial designs upon the Muslim world but I do not think that the situation is that hopeless. While history has any lesson then Waziristan may become yet another burial ground of yet another empire but what I really see as the turning point in the equation between the citizens of Pakistan and the US loyalists aka fouj and the corrupt ruling elite is the defection of a significant portion of the fouj itself. The so called loyalists of neo-empire have created a myth around this misinformation that there has never been a defection is fouj at mass scale and fouj in general would never side with the citizens on the matters of law and constitution. They, however, conveniently ignore the defection in the East Pakistan Rifles when Bengali officers and jawans wiped off each and every non Bengali officer and their families (3000+) when citizens rose up against fouj in East Pakistan.

The recent bombing of Zarrar company of SSG in Tarbella - the company that spearheaded the massacre of school children in Islamabad - clearly indicates that it was an insider job and a adeadly fissure is emerging in the fouj itself. I think it would be anyones guess that as the defecting elements in fouj will perceive Swat, FATA, and NATA as the safe refuge after defection, the rate of defection will rise exponentially. I think it is written on the wall that with in fouj itself a pressure cooker is simmering and a significant part of fouj is on the verge of saying fukkit to all this and rise up against this "voluntary" acceptance of defeat, meekness, and timidity on part of corrupt and lawless fouji and civilian elite. The emergence of power vacuum is self-evident.

Re: # 149

zeemax,

.... i don't know what you mean by the chery example .... chery is still a long ways off from becoming a global player - they have been talking about entering the us market since 2005 and just put off entering the european market next year (they are not ready for prime time -yet) ..... with 300,000 units in 2006 they rank 24th globally and fifth in china where FAW and SAIC are much bigger players ........ actually i wouldn't be surprised if chery is merged into one of the two in 2008 ....... their real growth is the domestic market which is expected to grow to 15m in 5 years ........

..... having said that, it is a matter of time before some chinese automaker makes it as a global player ..... right now they don't have to - the domestic market will absorb all they can produce .......

....... in any case, like i said before, everyone will win except for the jihadis ...... the global market offers unlimited opportunity for everyone who loves life more than they love death - afterlife markets are a big unkown ...........

#146 Posted by hamidm2,

Did you come around to my view after my Chery (Chevy) example? It's fine as long as you did :)

Except for the last para ... but you're a real dheet one if I ever saw one!