Abdul Latif Khalid (1944-2007)

Re: # 80

chalta, baiting and grandstanding an obit is not discourse-nor do i think a eulogy an appropriate space for forum heckling-it would be the equivalent of starting an argument with a fam member at their funeral of their deceased relative.

Neembu, this is a public board. Manto put up the eulogy not as an i-log but in the forum of the FP, therefore comments within the guidelines of chowk are entirely appropriate.

this is in no way a vindication of Masadi's daily chutiyapa.

neembu writes "But right now, respect his right to mourn his father with dignity and peace"

I offered my condolences, he responds with an attack. Chowk is a public forum nobody can monopolize it for their personal agenda and nobody should be able to call for banning someone else's posts. Regarding Chowkid calling for me to die, that post should be removed and is being redflagged

Chowk Editors,

Perhaps now would be a good time to start deleting posts that may be injurious to Yasser and his fam and to also make it clear to interactors that this particular board and time is not appropriate for baiting Manto. I also request that interactors focus their attention and energies on every board except this one if you dont have anything supportive to write to Manto and his fam.

-Neembu

#75 Posted by masadi on December 25, 2007 8:20:08 am


our socities practice a perverse form of "worship of the dead"


No they don't..why don't you die and then paki society can prove they don't worship the dead..

Re: # 75

Masadi,

There will be the rest of Manto's life to discuss these issues with you, should he choose.

But right now, respect his right to mourn his father with dignity and peace.

Neembu writes "Masadi,

Let Yassir have his period of mourning. Enough. "

And who the F gave you the authority to tell me to stop posting? The person does not have the decency to accept someone's sincere condolences and responds with insults and you want to justify all of that just because our socities practice a perverse form of "worship of the dead", while not caring at all about the living. Think about this BS and the customs you've come to adopt...

Masadi,

Let Yassir have his period of mourning. Enough.

I would like to remind you and the others here about the emotions of the hundreds of thousands whose fathers were taken away from them because of the shenanigans of the MAJ. It hurts when its close to home but you become numb to the pain of others

Manto writes "My father hated people who told half truths. Your post 68 shows that you are a dishonest person. He would have hated you. "

First, there is nothing dishonest in my post, second, I don't give a damn about what your father would have thought about me or not. He was not some prophet from on high. Third, this thread is not for argumentation I would suppose so throwing in your already discredited point about ZAB being the founder of the Church of MAJ is BS. Not accepting someone's sincere condolences and his statement that he is putting his differences aside for the purpose, shows that you lack the basic qualities that make someone human. Now go to hell

Masadi mian,

My father hated people who told half truths. Your post 68 shows that you are a dishonest person. He would have hated you.

You are desperately trying to bring up Jinnah and Bhutto, who were mentioned here only because my father respected them greatly. But if you must ask, if Bhutto was on his political wall, Jinnah was three notches higher.

Perhaps you should take up the Jinnah-Bhutto issue with Zulfikar Ali Bhutto himself if you have good clairvoyant at hands... Today is 25th December... 31 years ago on this date Mr. Bhutto himself founded the Quaid-e-Azam Academy (or the Church Of MAJ as you call it) dedicated to the propagation of Jinnah as Pakistan's greatest hero. That makes Mr. Bhutto not just the high priest but the founder of the Church of MAJ.

In #69 it should read "Manto" and not "Manot".

Now, Manot I will accept your apology, before I even start considering you a human being...

#34 Posted by masadi on December 24, 2007 3:53:54 pm
Let me first put aside our major differences (and my detestation of MAJ and your shallow intellect regarding ZAB) and offer my condolences on the loss of your father. For those of us who have suffered similar loss, our empathy is real. I lost my father when I was 20.
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Manto calls this "lack of humanity", some people are so low (like Manto)that they will not even refrain from using their father's death to attack those they differ with....

Yasser,

First and foremost: I am sorry for your loss. People say move on, and get on with your life. I hope that such a sad thing never happens. I hope you remember him for ever. I hope that every triumph in your life rekindles in you, your dad's memory and gratitude for what he did for you. That will be the best tribute to him. I hope you care for, and respect your mom, and make her life a bit more bearable after such a shattering loss.

People might not know your dad, but everyone knows something about loving a parent, a sibling, a child. Everyone can relate to that loss. We have all either faced it, or once in a while think about such an awful prospect. That's why we sympathize and empathize with what might be going through. This is not a sign of stupidity or weakness, but of humanity.

Manto writes "masadi,

Both your responses and lack of humanity stands on its own."

What lack of humanity in my post? If you lack the decency to accept someone's condolences, then go to hell. Don't try to use your father's demise to pass through your bakwas ideology regarding MAJ, the sob.