Dilawar Syed December 27, 2007
#24 Posted by Kamath on December 28, 2007 8:24:51 am
Re: # 15
hello Nassah; Take BJKumar's advice , and take my words-sip a cup of Gaream Chai and sit tight. read a bit of history of humanity in the next few months.You will notice there is much more outside the tortured Ummah in world of Islam, Quran, and hadiths where you can learn a great deal to get over one's depression.
Wa Salaam.
Kamath
Muslims -- that's why I say that we Muslims are inborn barbarians -- unchanged from our ahad-e jahiliya to our ahad-e jihadiya.
hello Nassah; Take BJKumar's advice , and take my words-sip a cup of Gaream Chai and sit tight. read a bit of history of humanity in the next few months.You will notice there is much more outside the tortured Ummah in world of Islam, Quran, and hadiths where you can learn a great deal to get over one's depression.
Wa Salaam.
Kamath
Muslims -- that's why I say that we Muslims are inborn barbarians -- unchanged from our ahad-e jahiliya to our ahad-e jihadiya.
#23 Posted by miraj101 on December 28, 2007 2:02:08 am
You screw with Pakistan sooner or later you get blasted, she thought she could rule Pakistan by taking orders from Washington and by doing Bush's bid by expediting this phony war on terror, two words for the stupid NEOCONS BLOW BACK, and yes blow back is a bitch...
I am pissed off more so because 140 of innocent people died the first time, and now 20 or so this time. Well, I guess you pay the price for following corrupt and immoral leaders, but this price seems a little too steep.
I am pissed off more so because 140 of innocent people died the first time, and now 20 or so this time. Well, I guess you pay the price for following corrupt and immoral leaders, but this price seems a little too steep.
#22 Posted by bjkumar on December 27, 2007 9:38:44 pm
Nikhat, pay attention to Zeemax. He is one of chowk's greatest proponents of feminism - in your style! :)
#21 Posted by bjkumar on December 27, 2007 9:32:11 pm
Zeemax, your defense of the ablaa Pakistani naari feminists is most touching!
#20 Posted by zeemax on December 27, 2007 9:29:08 pm
#4 Nikhat# and #17 Posted by bjkumar,
Nikhat, before you respond to #17, I suggest you read a thread opened in your name on UP.
Nikhat, before you respond to #17, I suggest you read a thread opened in your name on UP.
#19 Posted by bjkumar on December 27, 2007 9:13:28 pm
Nasah sahib, I recommend time off from world news for three days to stave off depression!
#18 Posted by bjkumar on December 27, 2007 9:13:28 pm
Nasah sahib, I recommend time off from world news for three days to stave off depression!
#17 Posted by bjkumar on December 27, 2007 9:07:32 pm
#4 Nikhat
You speak lovingly of the Bhutto and her children. At the same time, you insult her husband.
Whose children do you think are those, anyway?!
#16 Posted by krashid1961 on December 27, 2007 9:01:04 pm
Communal clashes rock Indian state
{Police are seeking to enforce a curfew
in the affected areas [EPA]
A curfew has been imposed in parts of the eastern Indian state of Orissa after a man was killed and 30 others injured in fighting between Hindus and Christians.
Continuing clashes since Monday also saw 14 churches and three Hindu temples damaged.
Naveen Patnaik, the state chief minister, said: "Enough police both from the state and the central reserve police force have been deployed in the affected towns and villages... to maintain order. The situation is under control."
Curfew is in force in three towns in central Orissa, with some 800 police deployed and more to follow, the police said.
Clashes
The fighting ignited on Monday when Christians put up a temporary arch to commemrate Christmas in Orissa's Kandhamal district where there has been continued tensions between the two sides.
Christians later attacked and injured a Hindu leader, known to resent Christian attempts to convert low-caste Hindus, police said.
During Tuesday and Wednesday, fighting and rioting continued sporadically, with Hindu temples and churches being set alight.
Government buildings and homes were also attacked.
The man who died was a Christian. No one has been arrested as yet.
A curfew on Wednesday night did not stop further small fights and stone throwing, although no injuries were reported.
Controversial conversions
Tensions had been high due to Christian missionaries finding the majority of their converts from "untouchable" Hindus - low caste Hindus who still face significant stigma.
Some hardline Hindus have accused Christian priests of bribing Dalits and poor tribespeople to convert.
Christian groups say that converts join Christianity willingly to remove themselves from the Hindu caste system. }
Al Jazeera 12-27-07
{Police are seeking to enforce a curfew
in the affected areas [EPA]
A curfew has been imposed in parts of the eastern Indian state of Orissa after a man was killed and 30 others injured in fighting between Hindus and Christians.
Continuing clashes since Monday also saw 14 churches and three Hindu temples damaged.
Naveen Patnaik, the state chief minister, said: "Enough police both from the state and the central reserve police force have been deployed in the affected towns and villages... to maintain order. The situation is under control."
Curfew is in force in three towns in central Orissa, with some 800 police deployed and more to follow, the police said.
Clashes
The fighting ignited on Monday when Christians put up a temporary arch to commemrate Christmas in Orissa's Kandhamal district where there has been continued tensions between the two sides.
Christians later attacked and injured a Hindu leader, known to resent Christian attempts to convert low-caste Hindus, police said.
During Tuesday and Wednesday, fighting and rioting continued sporadically, with Hindu temples and churches being set alight.
Government buildings and homes were also attacked.
The man who died was a Christian. No one has been arrested as yet.
A curfew on Wednesday night did not stop further small fights and stone throwing, although no injuries were reported.
Controversial conversions
Tensions had been high due to Christian missionaries finding the majority of their converts from "untouchable" Hindus - low caste Hindus who still face significant stigma.
Some hardline Hindus have accused Christian priests of bribing Dalits and poor tribespeople to convert.
Christian groups say that converts join Christianity willingly to remove themselves from the Hindu caste system. }
Al Jazeera 12-27-07
#15 Posted by nasah on December 27, 2007 8:03:21 pm
Kamath sahib -- I know I know -- it happens some of my best friends are also Muslims -- that's why I say that we Muslims are inborn barbarians -- unchanged from our ahad-e jahiliya to our ahad-e jihadiya.
#14 Posted by Kamath on December 27, 2007 5:42:52 pm
Re: # 13 Salaam Nasah:
You say,"We Muslims are barbarians.Period..".
Nonsense ! It is not at all true. I, as a typical non_muslim, have known many Muslims friends and aquaintences alike. They are like anybody else. I am also very familiar with the history of Islamiat by reading and travel. There are good people and not so good people as you find in any society!
So control yourself and don't blame the whole society for the acts of few barbarians, buddy.
Kamath
You say,"We Muslims are barbarians.Period..".
Nonsense ! It is not at all true. I, as a typical non_muslim, have known many Muslims friends and aquaintences alike. They are like anybody else. I am also very familiar with the history of Islamiat by reading and travel. There are good people and not so good people as you find in any society!
So control yourself and don't blame the whole society for the acts of few barbarians, buddy.
Kamath
#12 Posted by nasah on December 27, 2007 3:31:59 pm
"PML-Q leaders go underground
LAHORE: A majority of PML-Q leaders immediately went underground after the killing of Benazir Bhutto in Rawalpindi on Thursday, AAJ TV reported. The channel reported that most of the PML-Q local and national leaders switched off their cell phones and were being reported as being ‘not at home’ on their landline numbers. daily times monitor"
want to know who did it.
LAHORE: A majority of PML-Q leaders immediately went underground after the killing of Benazir Bhutto in Rawalpindi on Thursday, AAJ TV reported. The channel reported that most of the PML-Q local and national leaders switched off their cell phones and were being reported as being ‘not at home’ on their landline numbers. daily times monitor"
want to know who did it.
#11 Posted by quin on December 27, 2007 2:33:16 pm
Re #10
Thanks for clarifying. Written words sometime sound different than intended. Sorry for misunderstanding.
Thanks for clarifying. Written words sometime sound different than intended. Sorry for misunderstanding.
#10 Posted by slodhi on December 27, 2007 1:40:48 pm
I am not trying to disrespect her. I have asked Dilawar to do what she asked him about. I think it will be a great thing if Dilawar can wirte a speech where he can express the thoughts & ideals of Democracy which BB had given her life for.
#9 Posted by quin on December 27, 2007 1:19:43 pm
Re #8
This is time for mourning, Please. Even the enemies deserve some respect at death and this person lost her life for whatever she believed in ... she was not stupid to not know the risks facing her and no one goes into such hazardous mine land just for the pleasure of it. The callousness in such comments is shocking.
This is time for mourning, Please. Even the enemies deserve some respect at death and this person lost her life for whatever she believed in ... she was not stupid to not know the risks facing her and no one goes into such hazardous mine land just for the pleasure of it. The callousness in such comments is shocking.
#8 Posted by slodhi on December 27, 2007 12:54:56 pm
Hey Dilawar, How about you right the speech for her now? Please.
#7 Posted by slodhi on December 27, 2007 12:09:20 pm
She was the best Pakistan had to offer. I am sad that she is killed in such a brutal savage manner. I pray to Allah, may his peace be upon her & her family & the poor peopple of pakistan.
In 79 they kiiled our father, today they killed our daughter. But they can not kill the Bhutto in every Pakistani. Zinda hai Bhutto Zinda hai!!!!!!!
In 79 they kiiled our father, today they killed our daughter. But they can not kill the Bhutto in every Pakistani. Zinda hai Bhutto Zinda hai!!!!!!!
#6 Posted by quin on December 27, 2007 10:07:22 am
Re#5
CNN broadcast his comments. Said he had a broken voice and could not speak much. They said he had mentioned that she was fired at after the blast at close range and she died of bullet wounds. CNN also said her children flying to Karachi. Her 19 years son is unconsolable.
CNN broadcast his comments. Said he had a broken voice and could not speak much. They said he had mentioned that she was fired at after the blast at close range and she died of bullet wounds. CNN also said her children flying to Karachi. Her 19 years son is unconsolable.
#5 Posted by quin on December 27, 2007 10:00:36 am
Re #2
Emily Dickonson wrote,
"Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul.
And sings the tune
Without the words,
and never stops at all."
And I do feel as that bird is going to fly away
from the perch of my soul
with this evil clap of hands (Tali ...)
And I feel like we are falling through an abyss ...
And that tune which sang without the words,
I can hear no more
With all this clamour and roar
Yes, I want to pray,
But my heart is numb
And when I want to say
From my lips no words come
Emily Dickonson wrote,
"Hope is the thing with feathers
That perches in the soul.
And sings the tune
Without the words,
and never stops at all."
And I do feel as that bird is going to fly away
from the perch of my soul
with this evil clap of hands (Tali ...)
And I feel like we are falling through an abyss ...
And that tune which sang without the words,
I can hear no more
With all this clamour and roar
Yes, I want to pray,
But my heart is numb
And when I want to say
From my lips no words come
#4 Posted by Nikhat on December 27, 2007 9:47:23 am
So unfortunate for Bhutto family..I haven't heard any comments from Mr ten percent Zardari yet....I feel sooo sad for children. Benazir's assassination brought back all the memories of 1979 and Bhutto dobara zinda ho gaya.
Nikhat Riaz
Nikhat Riaz
#3 Posted by Kulharee on December 27, 2007 9:36:47 am
Bhutto family gave more to our country than all of the founding fathers and their families combined can ever even imagine.
#2 Posted by Nikhat on December 27, 2007 9:31:41 am
yes hope! Hope is all we have a very frail fragile chord it has become with sustained frictions. But that's all Pakistani nation has with which we r hanging on to prevent us from fall in the deep dark pit of failed state. Let's strengthen it with some work, the struggle, the prayers to create magic and miracle rescue.
One line with which Benazir will be remembered is "Courageous Muslim Daughter of Pakistan"
Nikhat Riaz
One line with which Benazir will be remembered is "Courageous Muslim Daughter of Pakistan"
Nikhat Riaz
#1 Posted by quin on December 27, 2007 9:27:29 am
The enigma is that she knowingly went into the lion's den. Someone has said that she was either stupid or very brave. I believe that she had found a committment in her heart to do something big for the country even if that meant risking her very life. And what a risk it was. In spite of all her flaws, she is a martyr for a cause. In spite of her flaws, she was hope and brightness in otherwise dismal and dark state of Pakistan. What a tragedy.
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