A Tragedy Born of Military Despotism and Anarchy

Re: # 25 i am 50 and he may be a little younger.i was in grammar school and he was in public school but we played hockey in between 1969 and 1973.aimal kansi was 8 years my junior in grammar school and classfellow of my nephew .i am originally from dalbandin but now settled in hyderabad.the major used to be very active in hyderabad with maulana hippy and some other friends.

#22 Posted by Tigram

"my baloch cousins who worked for murtaza like punno almani and nadir mengal."

Plot thickens. You claim to be a Hindu baloch but you have muslim cousins?. We all know that that does not happen in Baluchistan and Sindh.

The fact that the fearless Benazir entered the lion's den in Swat and came back without a scratch -- shows most likely it couldn't be Baitullah or any other Lanatullah who would come to assassinate her all the way to Pindi rather than do it in his own home turf.

#22 Posted by Tigram
I know some of those mentioned Nadir Jaskani more than any one else. But seriously, why is that you always show up after Pavo posts something? Is it some kind of agreement that you post to support him or is it a one-two punch from the same person.

He was your contemporary in 1969? So you both are in the fifties. Your writing style suggest something different!

Vengatramanan:
Timing. Why Sonia Gandhi is leader of Congress (ceremonial).
For that matter how come a conservative male dominated society like Pakistan can have a woman primeminister.
Peoples party if sticks to its root is good.

Re: # 21 PM Saab , if u see the video , BB was going at snails pace when she was shot at.

Re: # 17 HP saab for once i agree with you.pavocavalry was my contemporary in quetta in 1969.he has not only an army but an al zulfiqar background.he had close friendship with some of my baloch cousins who worked for murtaza like punno almani and nadir mengal.he was also a close friend of another comon quetta friend nadir jaskani guned down by the punjabis in the 80s.

re #10 pavocavalry:

Your sniper theory makes some sense, and certainly explains the swift destruction of evidence witnessed. I hinted at this in a post on Unplugged. However, there are some problems with the theory. It requires that the sniper accurately hit a target that would surely have been moving (hastily, at that) since the target would have been expected to react to the more immediate gunshots, which, in fact, BB did. There would be an extremely small window of opportunity for the sniper, acting as he would have to, AFTER the "smokescreen" gunman had fired his shots and before BB took cover in reaction.

It doesn't rule out the possibility of the scenario you hypothesize, but it does present some problems, I think.

I dont understand why the PPP cannot choose a leader who knows what Pakistan needs. Why should they accept a 19 year old boy as the leader of the party? Is this because of lack of self-respect among the people of the sub-continent. When would the sub-continent's masses understand that everybody in this world are equal and they could get good leaders out of ordinar families.

It does not bode well. Can't we produce an Abraham Lincoln?

we understand that murder or lets say political assasinations are an in vogue tool of the paki intelligence agencies dominated by the punjabis and a minority of pashtuns.we in balochistan have seen this in action.many assasinations can be squarely liked with these agencies.i guess it started from liaquat ali khan.so thats why i say again that since major amin has an army background if he says something it may have a link with what he saw.i am sure if not he,then many of his batch mates must be talking to him.

Tigram:
You have to realize the ground situation. Even a liberal like Bhutto had to appease the rightist element, so that he could concentrate on nation building according to his vision of Pakistan. Still he had to do the dirty work for Army in Baluchistan.
Army is our Brahmin and Awaam or people are Shudr.

#11 Posted by tahmed32
To understand what Pavo is saying in plain English read my post. It is now clear that the suicide bomber was just covering tracks. And as Pavo suggests its a professional job and not by some ragtag outfit.

Benazir Bhutto Killed in an Attack
Posted by HP Dec 27, 2007 09:56 pm

"That might mean there was not one but two people involved. One took the shot and other covered the tracks by exploding.

Generally, pulling a trigger isn't much harder than pulling a string, a good shooter is something of a professional and requires skills, training and discipline.

While Suicide bombers are about as low tech as you can get. No basic skill apart from suicidal fervor and the ability to pull a string is required.

But here it seems that even the suicide bomber was completely aware of what his job was, if the shooter was successful. It could be that plan was to use both as and when the opportunity arises. If there was an opportunity to use the bomb first, they would have done that first but in this case the shooter got the opportunity and the bomber covered the tracks.
Or the suicide bomber was just a back up effort, in case the gunman failed."

I think there is no need to make it sound like a conspiracy theory but building on what Pavo wrote in the last para,

"Now the initiative to counter attack or to change the status quo is with the PPP provided it has a leader who has resolution to do so ! Now it is the game of greater resolve.The Goddess of victory favours those who are audacious !"

It appears to me that the PPP has already surrendered by naming Amin Fahim a known army sympathizer and Musharaf favorite for PM in 2002. Asif Zaradri also tried to patch up with the army by stating that the PPP has no beef with the army.
But that could be one game that PPP is playing to somehow get closer to the power.

Masadi: I figured he was referring to the West as well but its still very sloppy writing at best.

Tahmed: Yes, that's exactly what happened: La Reine est mort, vive le Roi!

Here is a much better piece by Tariq Ali on BB: those who live by the sword, die by the sword?
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n24/ali_01_.html

Re: # 13 you are right .we hindus expected a great deal from him.he was a liberal initially but when he joined the q league thugs we lost faith.as a baloch hindu we did not like what the punjabi army did in balochistan.

#4 fuzair: The PPP had a great opportunity to demonstrate that it was democratic in deed as well as in word by choosing the party leader through a quick but reasonable process of internal party elections. Instead, the PPP leaders chose to follow the path of waderaship by picking an heir-apparent 19 year old "prince" complete with a Royal Guardian in the form of his father. What a disgrace!! Pakistani have been let down yet again - not by a uniformed general abusing his powers to gain power, not by bearded badmaash abusing Islam to gain power, not by mqm street thugs seeking to break up the country, but by a party that people looked towards to free them from these scoundrels.

pavocalry#
Not an apologetic, but the regime of Musharraf has gone to extreme against rightist elements. And in the process alienated a significant segment of society.
There is no question that majority of people were not unhappy with Musharraf and therefore he has been able to carry out what he did. In his last year when he went into extreme that he started to loose support. And apart from last year, policies of Musharraf had widespread support and opposition was unable to put any dent.
Although Benazir is dead and anyone aquainted with politics of Pakistan has regards for sacrifices of Bhutto family for democratic struggle. But PPP has never got absolute majority at the time of Benazir. Benazir was a good orator and understood politics but was not successful in transcribing her ideas into electoral success. To give you further insight Benazir has been Prime minister twice.
As far as who is behind this assasination, needs to be investigated.