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Courage in a Time of Chaos

Bina Shah December 29, 2007

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#45 Posted by mangotree on January 16, 2008 10:18:37 am
Re: # 14

Yes, true. Even people who disliked her policies still feel it was an untimely death.
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#44 Posted by bulleya on January 6, 2008 8:28:58 am
Bina_Shah #: ..i have actually spent quite a bit of time in feudal areas......

you never answered my questions, hence i am asking them again:


what are your views on feudalism?.......do you think it is the cause of various problems in pakistan: let's start suppression of women and honor killings......

or do you think it is a good thing, from which its beneficiaries should continue to benefit, as feudalism is in pakistan's interest, as a whole?......

is benefitting from feudalism a sin?.....or is there nothing wrong with it?....does it lead to equitable opportunty for peasants, or does in suppress them?
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#43 Posted by raiya_23 on January 4, 2008 4:34:57 am
Re: # 27 First of all bina I would like to clarify that this is not a personal attack on you or anybody else, …you posted something & I just wanted answers on some questions circling inside my head you said “I am interested in supporting the people of Pakistan. I believe in education. This is why I have been teaching at the university level in Pakistan for the last year and will continue to do so.”
From what I know you teach in a private institution at graduate level. What have you done in terms of education for the people of your own village? Have you set up a school & I don`t mean any shabby school. I meant a proper school imparting education of that standard which you received, which would open their minds enable them to think for themselves & empower them to do something else rather than toiling on the fields.

“And where I live, little girls don't work in the fields. Nor do little boys. You've got some romanticized idea of what the interior is like - have you ever been there to see it?” This is not true. What`s happening in our villages is crystal clear just like what`s happening in our cities.

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#42 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on January 2, 2008 2:02:34 pm
Neem Boo aka Saminasha,
Please grow up and stop all those red flags. If you have something to say, please state your opinion. Bush-whacking is not becoming on a lady. :)
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#41 Posted by saadali on January 1, 2008 6:51:44 pm
Agar hota Mirza khuda ka nabi
Gir kar na marta tatti mein kabhi
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#40 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on January 1, 2008 5:20:10 pm
Wileythecoyote #36 {"the losses from the chaos amount 400bn rupees, thats 5bnusd if imnot wrong,:}

Wiley,
I hope that this is an exaggeration. However, if I were the Government of Pakistan, I would jail the entire PPP leadership from Zardari to the workers, supporters, and goons for the wanton destrucion and loss of life. I would not release them until all victims had been compensated by these hooligans who never uttered a word to stop their workers from rioting. Perhaps some of the $1.5B stash can be brought back to offset the losses. Wasn't BB accused by the Swiss of being a washerwoman of sorts?
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#39 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on January 1, 2008 5:14:04 pm
Kala Harry #35 {"Salim, did your people teach the Sindhi girls how to make a proper Paan also? The kind of arrogance your post reeks is unbelievable. First impose your stupid language on the natives, and then have the balls to tell them to learn it."}

Kala Harry,
Actually, my female relatives taught the Sindhi girls both Urdu and English, you know the language that was imposed on your false prophet by the English whose boots he liked to lick. Yes, my people did teach them against listening to false messiahs too - and something about not chewing paan too forcefully in the privy. :)
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#38 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on January 1, 2008 5:11:00 pm
Re: #37 {"Re: # 35 lolz "}

Pity that we couldn't impose our stupid language on the really needy. :) LOLZ
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#37 Posted by neembu on January 1, 2008 1:05:59 pm
Re: # 35

lolz
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#36 Posted by wileythecoyote on January 1, 2008 12:25:43 pm
the losses from the chaos amount 400bn rupees, thats 5bnusd if imnot wrong, exactly the money mushhy baba, got from the us of a to counter terror!
in my village in south india, there is a saying " the money got gambling ,got spent in the brothel"
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#35 Posted by Kulharee on January 1, 2008 6:26:41 am
Re #33 Salim, did your people teach the Sindhi girls how to make a proper Paan also? The kind of arrogance your post reeks is unbelievable. First impose your stupid language on the natives, and then have the balls to tell them to learn it.
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#34 Posted by ahmedmadani on December 31, 2007 11:36:02 pm
Re: # 28 Thanks Salim C for your kind words. Honestly I am wrong more times than right.
Yourself, mr. Masadi,Major P.Cavalary, DM ,Hamid ,ylh .hp are contributing lot for my understanding.
Long term horizon we will be faced more with national ethinic problems and time will only tell if leadership arises to meet challenges.
Have good afternoon.

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#33 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 31, 2007 11:32:50 pm
Romair,
As for the exploitation of rural Sindhis, I remember women of my extended family in Karachi were always interested in teaching Sindhi girls and boys of their servants how to read and write. This was done in spite of the parents, especially the men. They felt that teaching girls to read and write would make it hard for them to get married. :(
If Mohajirs really hated Sindhis, then these Mohajir women would never force education on their Muslim sisters. I am sure that the Mojo women had better things to do - beauty salons, bridge games, or their favorite pastime - gossip.

Why do I want to say that the real enemies of the Sindhis were and are their own cruel exploiters - the Sindhi Vaderas?
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#32 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 31, 2007 11:19:31 pm
{"#15 Posted by Tigram on December 30, 2007 9:11:05 pm
Re: # 14 i think you have a point .Compare Punjab in 1947 with Sindh.The Punjabis on both sides Indian and Pakistan made sure that all Hindus or Muslims or Sikhs were killed down to not yet born babies while Sindh was peaceful.Very few Hindus migrated from Sindh."}

Tigram friend,
Will you please let Hypo Chacha Al Butteesi know about this? He is going around posting disinformation that immigrants from India arrived in Sindh to loot and kill Hindus in Sindh. Thank you for stating that you are a Baluchi Hindu - I am pleased to learn about your background and thankful that not everything is lost in Pakistan. I feel that the departure of Hindus was the main tragic catalyst that removed our diversity and made us all look alike and at each other's throats.
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#31 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 31, 2007 11:15:04 pm
Romair #24, {"and how in the world do all of them get admission into ivy league schools.....and why in the world, once they get, do they not study the tougher subjects like medicine, comp. sci etc...."}

Romair,
From what I have heard some elders say, Mr. Ten Percent's sister went to Agha Khan and became a doctor many years ago.
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#30 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on December 31, 2007 11:12:39 pm
#27 Bina Shah {"The rioters and looters are just criminals - not a matter of ethnicity. Everyone knows what's going on here as far as that's concerned."}

Bina,
I have great respect for your education, talents, and accomplishment. There is nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade - even if the shovel is from one's own garage. :)

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